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Are those marks from before LE entered the house? Then it may be drag marks from her heels in the gravel.
Are they from after LE entered the house? Then it could be anything the LE had with them, like a big box or other equipment.
JMO

I am still trying to track down when those marks were first observed.

In this article it states early on LE believed she was "forcefully" taken from her home. That may be based on her blood or from what they found in the home that we are not privy to yet though. If I find anything else regarding those marks I will let you know.

 
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A masked dude on my doorstep would be nightmare fuel. NOPE.
Bruh. The masked dude on HER doorstep is nightmare fuel. I changed out all the batteries in our cameras after seeing that.
 
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I am still trying to track down when those marks were first observed.

In this article it states there was evidence she was "forcefully" taken from her home.

Yeah that's where I got confused very early on because the homicide squad was immediately called out. The searches around the area seemed rather limited so it appeared they knew pretty early on she didn't just leave on her own. But then that was all downplayed and suddenly focus went to SIL and it got chaotic. Well, more chaotic.
 
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DBM - Repeated original post
 
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Yeah that's where I got confused very early on because the homicide squad was immediately called out. The searches around the area seemed rather limited so it appeared they knew pretty early on she didn't just leave on her own. But then that was all downplayed and suddenly focus went to SIL and it got chaotic. Well, more chaotic.

Yes, and there were comments "against her will" being made early on - before the video was even recovered.
 
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DBM
 
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This is bad...former Pima County Sheriff rebukes the current sheriff and his mishandling of the Guthrie case.
 
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Authorities trying to solve the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie say they might tap DNA genealogy databases, the same step that police took to unravel a decades-old series of murders in California and the fatal stabbings of four college students in Idaho.

The strategy could be fruitful: If unidentified DNA evidence can be connected to someone — even a distant relative — in a common genealogical database, it would give investigators more information and possibly lead to a suspect in Guthrie’s kidnapping in Arizona.

“It’s a fantastic tool,” said Ruth Ballard, a geneticist in California who specializes in DNA and has testified in hundreds of court cases. “If it’s a good quality sample and they’re able to get a profile, they could find a hit on that fairly quickly.”

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department said DNA collected so far in the investigation has not turned up any matches in a national criminal justice database known as CODIS, which has DNA profiles from convicted criminals and, in some states, people arrested for certain crimes.
 
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Sorry if this has been posted already I'm working my way through 100 pages from yesterday.

So now we may know why those dates for activity the Sheriff mentioned were so important. Any video footage or anything unusual in the neighborhood from Jan 1st until present, especially Jan 11th.

Somebody had googled Nancy's address and SG's salary on the 11th. Wow.

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They show there may have been activity for Guthrie’s address in the Catalina Foothills between June 21 and 28, 2025, originating in Arizona. The address may have seen activity again on Jan. 11, 2026.

Internet user searched for Nancy Guthrie's address and daughter's salary before 'Today' host's mother vanished

MOO
 
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Are those marks from before LE entered the house? Then it may be drag marks from her heels in the gravel.
Are they from after LE entered the house? Then it could be anything the LE had with them, like a big box or other equipment.
JMO

"At this point, investigators believe she was taken from the home against her will, possibly in the middle of the night. Taken against her will includes possible kidnapping or abduction," Nanos said.

Nanos said he could not go into further details about why the department views the disappearance as a crime, but Sgt. David Stivers added there were "some suspicious circumstances." Nancy Guthrie could not have walked out on her own, according to the department.

“She couldn’t walk 50 yards by herself,” Nanos said at the news conference, noting that while Nancy Guthrie had mobility issues because of her age, she had no cognitive issues.

In a picture in this article from the home dated February 2, 2026 the drag marks are visible.

 
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Well I just read that they've found "biological evidence" or "foreign DNA" inside the home. Not sure what the nature of this evidence is but that's all I could find.
I wonder if it could be related to the “They got it!”, when the two men who arrived in the vehicle registered to the safe company were at NG’s home on Tuesday.

Would you maybe have to take off your gloves, or at least the outer ones if a thinner pair was worn underneath, to try and deal with a fiddly safe lock mechanism, be it key, numerical pad, combination lock, whichever kind NG had?

JMO
 
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Sorry if this has been posted already I'm working my way through 100 pages from yesterday.

So now we may know why those dates for activity the Sheriff mentioned were so important. Any video footage or anything unusual in the neighborhood from Jan 1st until present, especially Jan 11th.

Somebody had googled Nancy's address and SG's salary on the 11th. Wow.

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They show there may have been activity for Guthrie’s address in the Catalina Foothills between June 21 and 28, 2025, originating in Arizona. The address may have seen activity again on Jan. 11, 2026.

Internet user searched for Nancy Guthrie's address and daughter's salary before 'Today' host's mother vanished

MOO

After I heard those reports I went on Google trends and found that a "Nancy Guthrie" was Googled from Sierra Vista / Tubac, Arizona on December 28, 2025.
 
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I imagined myself seeing it in the middle of the night. I’d say, very scary. But my husband immediately said, “just a dude in a mask”. A masked dude on my doorstep in the middle of the night is scary.
I’m not sure all men understand what a masked man means to a woman and why that puts a chill in our soul. MOO
 
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On CNN Live with Laura Coates a few minutes ago, her Former FBI Specialist guest (sorry no name) she's had for several nights in a row, stated something I had not considered.

She stated it is possible that the perp has killed himself following the vast amount of publicity this case has received.

She did not opine further what that would mean for NG, but perhaps if NG has died, the perp considered that his only way out.

I dunno, that got me thinking...

ET: fix grammar
I too see this as a murder suicide situation, if they eventually close in on the perp. jmo
 
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Other than NG being missing, the Nest video, some alien DNA in her domicile, there isn't a lot of evidence. The gloves they found in the area may not even be linked with this at all.
Just a wild guess, but it seems to me that the majority of cartel-phobics do not live in border states..... jmo
 
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In regard to the "highly sophisticated demand" that TMZ says it has received, can someone explain what makes it so? I know the answer is in the cryptocurrency somehow but I would like to hear from someone knowledgeable on this.
 
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I've noticed that there is some weird light movement going on behind him in the part of the video where he is holding the foliage up to the camera. I wondered if it was someone else sweeping a torchlight around, or if it was the movement of car lights in the distance. But it seems to shine inside the porch area, because he is silhouetted against a completely black background before and after, and doesn't seem to be moving his head at all, IMO.

You need to play the video on 0.25 speed to really catch it, between time stamps 0.33 and 0.37 in the video -

screenshots where I've tried to capture it
ng1.webp

ng2.webp

no light here -
ng3.webp

ng35.webp

ng37.webp

ng37b.webp

video link
 

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