AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SlimPickens]

Hadn't seen it that way, but you have a point there...

Further along those lines:

If every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that the kidnapping and ransom demands are one and the same, then every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that this perpetrator isn't some one-off obsessed fan with serious mental illness (i.e. schizophrenia) who binge buys kidnapper swag at Walmart and has just gotten lucky thus far.

18 days
2 SWAT search warrants executed
4-5 folks interviewed and released
No arrests
An as yet untraced crypto account
An as yet anonymous IP used for ransom demands
No definitive or exclusive DNA identified/reported.
Reported DNA currently being analyzed is touch/mixed DNA of unknown origin and may not even be the perpetrators.

This guy is not giving any indication to me that he is a dummy. Yes, it took 45 days or so to nab Kohlberger, but he wasn't a dummy either.

JMO.

 

[turaj]

Trial? What trial? Please define.

that should read following of the case so far. For sure no trial here and not confident there will be one.

 

[Bluewing3102]

Further along those lines:

If every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that the kidnapping and ransom demands are one and the same, then every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that this perpetrator isn't some one-off obsessed fan with serious mental illness (i.e. schizophrenia) who binge buys kidnapper swag at Walmart and has just gotten lucky thus far.

18 days
2 SWAT search warrants executed
4-5 folks interviewed and released
No arrests
An as yet untraced crypto account
An as yet anonymous IP used for ransom demands
No definitive or exclusive DNA identified/reported.
Reported DNA currently being analyzed is touch/mixed DNA of unknown origin and may not even be the perpetrators.

This guy is not giving any indication to me that he is a dummy. Yes, it took 45 days or so to nab Kohlberger, but he wasn't a dummy either.

JMO.

i really don't understand what's taking so long to analyze the DNA inside the house.

JMO

 

[DizzyB]

Moscow Sheriff faced a lot of criticism too

Redirect Notice

Yes it was thought that Moscow LE was not forthcoming with information. They were pretty tight lipped, even to this day. Nanos seems the opposite.

 

[tricia]

We are going to discuss Nancy and Andrew (the former Prince) Mountbatten-Windsor.
We are going live at 10:30 PM Eastern TONIGHT.
Please join us

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Understand the frustration; however isn't it the job of law enforcement to determine what is or is not a viable tip....?

The Pima County Sheriff's Department (PCSD) in Arizona has urged the public to stop calling 911 with opinions, theories, or repetitive thoughts regarding the investigation into missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie. Dispatch managers noted that the high volume of non-essential calls with unhelpful speculation is hindering the investigation.

KOLD +1

 

[cait2007]

I don't see how this would be possible because each ransom letter is asking for money as if they haven't received any at all.

Yep! Some aren’t ransoms either, just someone who thinks he knows who has her! I doubt there is validity to any of them. It’s scary the emails can’t be traced or maybe they just don’t want to waste the time on it?

 

[MarciB]

Nope

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024297020908089697

What?

 

[ab01]

Understand the frustration; however isn't it the job of law enforcement to determine what is or is not a viable tip....?

Maybe local LE is overwhelmed due to staffing shortages?

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department (PCSD) faces critical staffing shortages, with personnel levels lower than 25 years ago despite a 45–50% population increase, resulting in40+ deputy vacancies and 121+ corrections vacancies as of late 2025
. Sheriff Chris Nanos cited budgetary constraints and high attrition as major challenges in maintaining safe staffing.

PCSD continues to navigate challenges with understaffing, budget constraints

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos told 13 News that budget constraints are the reason they are understaffed.

www.kold.com

 

[moonglow123]

Yeah, as has been said many times by people here: I struggle to believe there’s no wife, girlfriend, mom, brother, friend etc. that hasn’t noticed something weird or different about their loved one. Someone must know what happened, or at least suspect. Hope they eventually do the right thing and report it.

 

[SMK777]

Further along those lines:

If every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that the kidnapping and ransom demands are one and the same, then every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that this perpetrator isn't some one-off obsessed fan with serious mental illness (i.e. schizophrenia) who binge buys kidnapper swag at Walmart and has just gotten lucky thus far.

18 days
2 SWAT search warrants executed
4-5 folks interviewed and released
No arrests
An as yet untraced crypto account
An as yet anonymous IP used for ransom demands
No definitive or exclusive DNA identified/reported.
Reported DNA currently being analyzed is touch/mixed DNA of unknown origin and may not even be the perpetrators.

This guy is not giving any indication to me that he is a dummy. Yes, it took 45 days or so to nab Kohlberger, but he wasn't a dummy either.

JMO.

 

[dream_sweet96]

Does anyone know how long it takes to go through all the paperwork to buy a gun in AZ? Assuming the firearm was purchased legally...

 

[steff13]

Was Nanos on the episode you saw?

I don't believe so. I have only watched the first episode so far and I got distracted by a deputy with a British accent.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Maybe local LE is overwhelmed due to staffing shortages?

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department (PCSD) faces critical staffing shortages, with personnel levels lower than 25 years ago despite a 45–50% population increase, resulting in40+ deputy vacancies and 121+ corrections vacancies as of late 2025
. Sheriff Chris Nanos cited budgetary constraints and high attrition as major challenges in maintaining safe staffing.

PCSD continues to navigate challenges with understaffing, budget constraints

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos told 13 News that budget constraints are the reason they are understaffed.

www.kold.com

For sure! It was reported by Sheriff that 18,000 (FBI) + 14,000 (State) tips came in within a couple of days after the perp video was released. So many more since then I'm sure. They don't have the human resources to process that volume, and if people are just calling with theories instead of facts, what a nightmare that must be. I'm sure they're trying their best though.
MOO

 

[ChiaPet]

Yeah, as has been said many times by people here: I struggle to believe there’s no wife, girlfriend, mom, brother, friend etc. that hasn’t noticed something weird or different about their loved one. Someone must know what happened, or at least suspect. Hope they eventually do the right thing and report it.

Or do the greedy thing and turn your guy in to try to get some money.

 

[Trino]

Okay, there's a focus on Walmart for criminal's items. Maybe they were from someone else, someone years ago even in another city or state? I would also think Goodwill would have an assortment of items the person needed.

 

[Monepone]

I wish I understood better the investigative techniques that are involved in tracing the e-mails that TMZ has been receiving. The consensus is that there has been use of a VPN to conceal the tracks leading back to the sender(s). I read somewhere on these threads that a VPN is often based on another continent and I am not sure if subpoenas are applicable in these cases. The whole purpose of one getting a VPN is to be untraceable online. What options do forensic technologists have here??

It's probably not impossible to trace, but would involve a lot of cooperation from many international agencies to do so. The cold hard truth is that there is currently not a lot of goodwill toward the United States in large parts of the world at the moment and that definitely would play a part in the type of cooperation we would get from foreign agencies for this type of request. Keep in mind that such a request could consume considerable resources for those agencies and they are perfectly justified in denying cooperation with a government that has thrown diplomacy under the bus.

 

[shonyakay]

Did anyone get word of who was being polygraphed yesterday?

BE stated in a short that he found out that the Poly's he mentioned that were recently given were not related to the case and they were for new hires to the squad.

It crossed my mind that LE may have told him that to keep them on the down low.

Sidenote: People have been given Poly's in Nancy's case as an aid to help rule them in or out.

 

[VegasGirl35]

Further along those lines:

If every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that the kidnapping and ransom demands are one and the same, then every day that goes by makes a more and more compelling argument that this perpetrator isn't some one-off obsessed fan with serious mental illness (i.e. schizophrenia) who binge buys kidnapper swag at Walmart and has just gotten lucky thus far.

18 days
2 SWAT search warrants executed
4-5 folks interviewed and released
No arrests
An as yet untraced crypto account
An as yet anonymous IP used for ransom demands
No definitive or exclusive DNA identified/reported.
Reported DNA currently being analyzed is touch/mixed DNA of unknown origin and may not even be the perpetrators.

This guy is not giving any indication to me that he is a dummy. Yes, it took 45 days or so to nab Kohlberger, but he wasn't a dummy either.

JMO.

This case has me stumped on so many levels. Is this guy really that good or just lucky? Could someone with no criminal experience pull off this kind of crime or has he simply not been convicted in the U.S.? (Hence no CODIS hit). Multiple perpetrators? Lone wolf? What kind of person has the brains to do the crypto/undetectable ransom notes and the cruelty to hurt Nancy? Since there apparently isn't any footage of Nancy being taken out of her general area, should they be looking closer to home?

And lastly, if the genealogy comes up empty, how do they solve this thing? The reward hasn't worked. Appealing to the kidnappers' conscience hasn't worked. It feels like they're running out of options.

This case is making my brain hurt. JMO.

 

[shonyakay]

What ever happened to no tip is too small??

They are probably looking at nearly 30,000 tips between PCSD and the FBI combined at this point.