AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[nycpizzaparty]

We've never heard about (AFAIK) the state of the inside of Nancy's house, and particularly her bedroom. Possibly there was so much blood (sorry) that medical people said she couldn't have survived it.

This is really sad. The more you think about it, the more you realize she probably didn't make it out of her house alive.

 

[shonyakay]

Personally I feel it’s irrelevant to Nancy’s case unless the victim is elderly. Not to minimize the awful nature of assault, but this looks more like your standard grab and rape attempt.

Here in the US people 1. kidnapped, 2. out of their homes, 3. (possibly) for ransom, 4. and an elderly woman is off-the-chart rare. Women being grabbed off the street and dragged or driven off to be assaulted is unfortunately not. I want to say the majority of kidnappings here are for rape or custodial issues.

Nancy’s could be sexual in nature assuming the ransom notes are fake. Elderly sex assault is typically a weird fetish or an inexperienced criminal, however, even those are in-house events as far as I can remember.

Regardless, surely LE has looked this other crime. Better to leave no stone unturned.

I don't think the man resembles Lantana man but I just want to point out that Marc O'Leary assaulted women in a wide age range from a teenager to women in their 60's.

 

[LRinCA]

We've never heard about (AFAIK) the state of the inside of Nancy's house, and particularly her bedroom. Possibly there was so much blood (sorry) that medical people said she couldn't have survived it.

In this scenario, would the ransom note a day or two after her disappearance have given the family a shred of hope that perhaps she did survive it? I need to find the link*, but IIRC, Nanos mentioned calling in homicide.

All JMO/MMO



*Searchers were using drones and search dogs to look for Guthrie, officials said. Search and rescue teams were supported by volunteers and Border Patrol and the homicide team was also involved, he said. It is not standard for the homicide team to get involved in such cases, Nanos said.

Editing to add - from the same article:

"“You don't typically get the sheriff out at a scene like this, but it's very concerning what we're learning from the house…” he said. “The only thing I can tell you at the scene is it's concerning to us.”"

Sheriff Nanos: Disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mom continues, case investigated as a crime

Authorities say 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie vanished from her Tucson home over the weekend as deputies deploy drones, dogs and homicide investigators.

news.azpm.org

 

[steff13]

I agree. The Feds are notoriously tight-lipped but they do manage to get a message across.

I kind of thought it was the equivalent of "no comment" - neither a confirmation nor a denial. In my opinion nothing can be gleaned from that particular statement.

 

[shonyakay]

This is really sad. The more you think about it, the more you realize she probably didn't make it out of her house alive.

Not necessarily. There is not a lot of blood on her porch and the further you go past the nook onto the walkway the more spaced out her blood drops get.

 

[kevin1000]

BBM. Respectfully disagree. There are all sorts of misguided individuals who might see it as a prank and sit back and watch the police activity. If caught, they should be given 90 days in county jail with toilet scrubbing duty. I dare say that would cure their prankster impulses.

Amateur opinion and speculation

I see your point. You think the gloves are not from the villain. Why would he leave them, right?

 

[Fromeaster]

I thought about it, if Nancy had stayed overnight at AG's house that night, how would the story have turned out? I wonder if Nancy was being followed or if they didn't need to, because they had the information themselves or someone else provided it. I still hope that the car will be recorded somewhere, because that's the key to the answer. I also thought about the fact that it could have been the work of a neighbor or someone nearby.

 

[Bodhi]

Harvey Levin Outlines Possible Search Radius In Nancy Guthrie Case

The alleged ransom letter in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping has a few details that make it seem like she hasn't been taken too far from the Arizona home where she was abducted ... and that should narrow the search radius for law enforcement.

www.tmz.com

He’s saying here that the radius is based on the ransom note’s promise to return Nancy to Tucson within a certain time after payment. In a later video (because time invariably loosens Harvey’s lips), he reveals the specified time to be twelve hours. The radius is huge, crossing into adjacent states.

Exactly,

They were responding to my post. I should have stated LE should "focus" on the radius mentioned in the first ransom note. I didn't mean to imply that they didn't even try to.

Thank you. The discussion is moving so fast, and so many reporters and bloggers are covering this, I thought I missed something.

 

[LRinCA]

JMO, etc.

Sometimes when my mind gets overloaded with a lot of information over the space of a few weeks I like to go back and isolate a search based on the very first day/days (not just with this kind of case but any big news story).

This article is from February 3, 2026 and there's quite a big of early-days info, including mention of homicide detectives taking over and a kind of conflicted statement/mention of forced entry.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Day 3 latest updates

Authorities say "concerning circumstances" at Guthrie's Catalina Foothills home suggest she was taken against her will, and was possibly kidnapped or abducted. Signs of forced entry were reportedly found at the scene.

www.fox10phoenix.com

 

[teeandcee]

We've never heard about (AFAIK) the state of the inside of Nancy's house, and particularly her bedroom. Possibly there was so much blood (sorry) that medical people said she couldn't have survived it.

This would be kind of a backhanded comfort for her kids. As awful as that would be they’d at least have the sparse comfort that it’s all over and she’s not out there suffering and afraid.

 

[Warshawski]

Excellent info, thanks. Sounds like it'd be important to know whether Nancy has an ICD or pacemaker. The only reason I can think of for someone wanting to put her's device into magnet mode is if it was be important to the crime, e.g., to prevent event reporting or otherwise disrupt the remote connection.

Was it common public knowledge Before NG’s disappearance that she had a Pacemaker or ICD ( or some sort of heart care device ) ?

 

[Han]

Her kids won’t be able to resist believing she’s out there somewhere at least not for the time being. The first stage of grief is denial, even in a face of overwhelming evidence. Denial happens to the best of us.

In this case, maybe she has survived relatively unharmed. We can continue to hold onto that hope. For now.

 

[Colleen Donnelly]

After watching Mr. Cross' interview with Brian Entin, it's not that people don't want him to succeed. There is apparently a pattern of demotion or retaliation against officers who disagree with him at all. Mr. Cross is able to speak more freely as union rep, which protects him in the cast of information for the public good, so he is speaking up for his union members. There has been a steady exodus of people leaving the department and currently, the most experienced homicide detectives have only 3 years of service. That is not much. MOO

Maybe @Jade means that Cross etal should keep their traps shut until there's a definitive ending to this. In whatever way that happens. Quit diverting attention and time. It's not about Nanos, nor Cross, just Nancy.

 

[teeandcee]

I don't think the man resembles Lantana man but I just want to point out that Marc O'Leary assaulted women in a wide age range from a teenager to women in their 60's.

I can’t get it to play tonight for whatever reason. The video image certainly makes him look a lot fatter if that’s who I’m seeing past the vehicle.

Right, some rapists do, but it’s not the norm. These beings aren’t even human and should be wiped from the earth for the rest of humanity’s sake like every other plague. Ugh. Anyway, I really don’t think this is sexual (NG case), just figured I’d comment since it’s a remote possibility.

 

[Bodhi]

I agree. The Feds are notoriously tight-lipped but they do manage to get a message across.

I would've agreed in the past.

 

[teeandcee]

In this scenario, would the ransom note a day or two after her disappearance have given the family a shred of hope that perhaps she did survive it? I need to find the link*, but IIRC, Nanos mentioned calling in homicide.

All JMO/MMO



*Searchers were using drones and search dogs to look for Guthrie, officials said. Search and rescue teams were supported by volunteers and Border Patrol and the homicide team was also involved, he said. It is not standard for the homicide team to get involved in such cases, Nanos said.

Editing to add - from the same article:

"“You don't typically get the sheriff out at a scene like this, but it's very concerning what we're learning from the house…” he said. “The only thing I can tell you at the scene is it's concerning to us.”"

Sheriff Nanos: Disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mom continues, case investigated as a crime

Authorities say 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie vanished from her Tucson home over the weekend as deputies deploy drones, dogs and homicide investigators.

news.azpm.org

That’s a good catch.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Hypothetically, let’s assume there was no dinner at AG’s that night. Who was the last non family person to see NG alive? Let’s set the timeline from there.

 

[Han]

Hypothetically, let’s assume there was no dinner at AG’s that night. Who was the last non family person to see NG alive? Let’s set the timeline from there.

It’s been alledged since the beginning that she took an Uber to her daughter’s house so she would have been seen by the driver if that information is true. Edited to add around 5:30 Saturday evening.

 

[shonyakay]

It’s been alledged since the beginning that she took an Uber to her daughter’s house.

That has been confirmed by the Sheriff and they have talked with the Uber driver.

 

[flp]

this case seems have gone cold, i wonder how long the media will be camped out there