AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cathathorse]

Interesting thought but I'm not a fan of the gem show theory. Burglaries statistically happen during day time so they can verify that the homeowner is gone/house is empty. And they are skiddish and quick like cats. They choose the path of least resistance because the main objective is to get in and get out.

Lantana man shows the exact opposite of that in the footage. Gloved and masked up to be prepared to commit serious crime, dismantles cameras, moves slowly. He also walks up to the front of the house where there's clearly a metal door in front of another door which would be a considerable task to gain entry to if you're looking for a quick robbery. Unless he's a formidable lock picker.

JMO

What if they needed the homeowner/gemologist there because they expected his gems would be in a safe?

 

[Moonchime]

Is this a cold case?

I sure hope not.

 

[cathathorse]

I’m guessing that the family asked for this since she’s the mother of a celeb/wealthy person. ? Like some houses are blurred out on Zillow.

I know what you are referring to with the blurring... however, the house is not blurred on street view, which means it wasn't requested to be blurred by anyone.

 

[SlimPickens]

Maybe they did pay some or all of it! It went into a black hole in the dark web, no response after.

The family confirmed the ransom people were hoaxes. All so sad to think of, desperation! I would be so desperate too!

Now on to finding NG another way. It is hard to believe that LE have not found the car on a camera the original night. It would lead to so much info, especially where NG was left, after the abduction. Car would lead to big clues where to search. Plus DNA, owner, driver of car, plus more!

Need to identify the getaway car!

JMO

It is interesting that once the deadline passed there appeared to be no more ransom communications (at least with media and as far as we know no one else). Either this means they didn't pay, the demand was serious, consequences were doled out, and no further communications, or they did pay and got swindled.

JMO.

 

[watson1]

Hoping LE have canvassed storage units in Tucson and within a 2 hour radius; if a party needed to move a body quickly and already had a storage unit, it could have been a "solution" to the immediate problem; just my opinion and speculation, but something that should be on the list of things looked into, in my opinion, even if it is unlikely.

 

[Napoli]

There has been suspicion that the roof was recently worked on.

Nancy Guthrie neighbor reveals what sparked fears before sharing tip

Nancy Guthrie's neighbor gave police vital information that prompted them to search the roof of her home Friday after she went missing last weekend.

www.dailymail.co.uk

KOLD news anchor Mary Coleman appeared Wednesday on CNN and said the note contained 'information that only someone who is holding her for ransom would know'. That settles it for me. Ransom writer and perp are the same person/persons. jmo

 

[maskedwoman]

I find this really odd- I understand LE needs to maintain a PR/Legal stance to protect people's private property. However, a volunteer search party most likely would be aiding the search by looking at open uninhabited land (areas LE has yet to look at). I highly doubt they'd go trampling in and around people's homes/yards (since investigators already looked here) JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025323079778628034

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025323435803771034

Respectfully, I disagree. Some people have no common sense. I can totally see private searchers trespassing and possibly even entering storage buildings, etc. Plus, it is not always easy to tell whether a property is privately owned or just wilderness. JMO

 

[watson1]

--Traffic cams in Tuscon on main streets are DOT operated and do not record at all (per police clarification). No police cams or flock cams in the entire city. So no footage on nearby main roads.
--No street lights and traffic cams in the immediate neighborhood.
--Low light ordinance makes it pitch dark, and houses have privacy hedges/landscaping, set back so residential cameras do not record past their immediate home circle.
--NG's own cameras, no subscription, DIY type installs that did not prioritize security, no reach to street to record cars

It's a rare surveillance blind spot/perfect storm that complicates the case.

LE needs to put a request in to the National Reconnaissance Office. The NRO has full satellite coverage of all the US 24/7. It takes time, but they can pull sat imagery and then work through it. Perhaps they have requested it , IMO, fwiw.

 

[Donswife48]

I know, reporters really stayed on it, during the Idaho 4 case. Even Nancy Grace sat out in the cold, in front of the house. Brian Entin, from Florida, bundled up, of course, really on it, as usual, every detail! Many other you tubers, really good.

Re NG’s case, I don’t think the case has gone cold at all! LE is waiting for the inside house DNA results, STR, then maybe IGG, the person will be known eventually, it’s just whether they are associated with the crime.

Maybe more searches in the brush, within one mile, look for more evidence to test, even if a long shot. Go to nearby trailheads, abandoned barns, railroads or random dump sites, drivable
Dirt roads. Look for disturbs brush. I know it was noted because roads are a combo hard packed dirt, sand, crushed gravel, it’s like “ concrete”, usually can’t get tracks, just see disturbed dirt.
It’s all good. Need more searches. JMO

All JMO

After 3 weeks, why are LE still waiting for the inside house DNA results? JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

There's miles and miles of desert, state park, etc. that LE is not searching because they don't have time or resources. They've spent 3 weeks only looking within 2 miles of the home. Time is NOT our friend. With animals and environmental conditions her body could be slowly disappearing. If they don't look for her now their only chance to find her might be gone. Sheriff already did damage to this case. If the community is offering their assistance to search they should be allowed to with guidance from LE. If they can find her body, the location of said body, or finding cause of death via autopsy might be able to provide more clues to LE to trace where the perp may have came from or went to. I understand your point but I'd imagine if searchers stumbled upon something they would notify LE and not disturb the area.

JMO

True, but if a bunch of people are out looking and accidentally stumble across her body, they could trample right through whatever evidence is nearby and make it useless.

 

[Bluewing3102]

Respectfully, I disagree. Some people have no common sense. I can totally see private searchers trespassing and possibly even entering storage buildings, etc. Plus, it is not always easy to tell whether a property is privately owned or just wilderness. JMO

I understand this. Thats why I think these private searchers should organize and check around local hiking trails, washes along the roadside and land around state parks.

 

[stmichael]

What I find most amazing is that IF there really is an accomplice, that loose lips haven't sunk the ship by now. This has become a mystery attracting world-wide attention. To know someone or something even tangentially-related to the abduction and fate of Nancy Guthrie would eventually be too much for someone to keep to themselves.

To expand on that, kidnappers would not want the heat of holding NG now if they haven't received their ransom, and would want to cut her loose. Stashing out and taking care of a kidnapped elderly medically compromised person that has nuclear heat on you is not desirable to any level criminal. At this point it would be a huge mess.

If she was alive and still being held they would cut her loose, full court press the ransom and maybe even go more public (a la TMZ), or sadly kill and dispose of her. She only has value as a bargaining chip, it's not like some young woman they can sell into a Mexican prison and disappear her that way.

 

[Arkay]

--Traffic cams in Tuscon on main streets are DOT operated and do not record at all (per police clarification). No police cams or flock cams in the entire city. So no footage on nearby main roads.
--No street lights and traffic cams in the immediate neighborhood.
--Low light ordinance makes it pitch dark, and houses have privacy hedges/landscaping, set back so residential cameras do not record past their immediate home circle.
--NG's own cameras, no subscription, DIY type installs that did not prioritize security, no reach to street to record cars

It's a rare surveillance blind spot/perfect storm that complicates the case.

IMO a starry night is one of the most beautiful sights visible from Earth.

I’ve only been privileged to see it when I’ve traveled or visited friends who live in rural areas.

As a lifelong New Yorker, we typically see one or two stars, and on an exceptionally clear night, maybe three.

I love the notion of a planned community of darkness so that every night the starry sky is visible. I imagine this intentional darkness was established long before the onset of home doorbell cameras and all the other surveillance such as traffic cams.

I suppose it didn’t seem likely that an awful event like this would happen there, and that the lack of light would so compromise investigating the who, what and why of this attack. The when and the original where are known, but that’s it. We don’t know the whereabouts of Nancy now at all.

I’d have to say that forfeiting that luscious view feels more worth it to me now. I don’t feel “Big Brother” is watching me; instead I feel much more safe.

My favorite picture at MOMA is Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night,” which I’ve always found so bucolic. Now I am feeling that the deep and complete darkness can be sinister.

JMO of course.

 

[Donswife48]

Respectfully, I disagree. Some people have no common sense. I can totally see private searchers trespassing and possibly even entering storage buildings, etc. Plus, it is not always easy to tell whether a property is privately owned or just wilderness. JMO

While I agree with you, I wouldn't mind if people conduct a search on any of my property as long as they didn't break into any buildings. Usually search parties are organized, mapped with grids. If someone is searching without a group, that would still be OK, as long as they check with me first. JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

There has been suspicion that the roof was recently worked on.

Nancy Guthrie neighbor reveals what sparked fears before sharing tip

Nancy Guthrie's neighbor gave police vital information that prompted them to search the roof of her home Friday after she went missing last weekend.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Just adding 2 and 2, NG has been living in home for around 50 years. New roof, rewiring, etc.

It was on and off the market several times in 2007, then looks like another listing in 2024. It is not uncommon for a very longtime owner to put their home on the market and realize things need to be updated before it will sell. I have read a few posts indicating some work was done last year. Roofing and electrical, although that could be an error. If true, it would expose NG to people she normally would not engage with. I would expect that LE has already looked into that. MOO

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/M2579120168

 

[Donswife48]

True, but if a bunch of people are out looking and accidentally stumble across her body, they could trample right through whatever evidence is nearby and make it useless.

That's a consideration, but if they do stumble across her body, and trample through evidence, isn't it better than the LE not conducting any search at all and LE not finding the body? I won't speak for anyone other than me, if someone I loved was missing for 3 weeks, I just want them found. JMO

 

[Katrinepa]

Couldn’t agree more. Saying a case is going cold after just 3 weeks is not even close to true in my opinion and does nothing helpful for us still interested in following it. Both the local Sheriff department and the FBI are still working (as far as we know) basically around the clock on this case and in no way are they anywhere close to giving up on finding Nancy, alive or not IMO.

Anyone who has been following missing cases for years and years will know that 3 weeks in is basically still the very beginning of the investigation process. LE is surely holding most of what they have close to their vests and is just putting out into the public the info that they think could possibly help find Nancy or the perp. I’m not giving up on Nancy yet. MOO

Very well said! People today are so impatient, living in a sound bite world. Well, the smart way to do things is often bit by bit, which takes time. They don't want to mis anything that might be the best clue, and many times the evidence can be spread out in many directions. LE needs to be allowed to do what they have been trained to do, which most pundits have Not.

 

[nerosleuth]

Respectfully, I disagree. Some people have no common sense. I can totally see private searchers trespassing and possibly even entering storage buildings, etc. Plus, it is not always easy to tell whether a property is privately owned or just wilderness. JMO

I can also see private searchers using drones to search a property from a distance.

Folks would suddenly get suspicious seeing a strange drone flying over their property.

 

[Donswife48]

IMO a starry night is one of the most beautiful sights to see from Earth.

I’ve only been privileged to see it when I’ve traveled or visited friends who live in rural areas.

As a lifelong New Yorker, we typically see one or two stars, and on an exceptionally clear night, maybe three.

I love the notion of a planned community of darkness so that every night the starry sky is visible. I imagine this intentional darkness was established long before the onset of home doorbell cameras and all the other surveillance such as traffic cams.

I suppose it didn’t seem likely that an awful event like this would happen there, and that the lack of light would so compromise investigating the who, what and why of this attack. The when and the original where is known, but that’s it. We don’t know the whereabouts of Nancy now at all.

I’d have to say that forfeiting that luscious view feels more worth it to me now. I don’t feel “Big Brother” is watching me; instead I feel much more safe.

My favorite picture at MOMA is Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night,” which I’ve always found so bucolic. Now I am feeling that the deep and complete darkness can be sinister.

JMO of course.

I believe that even if there is an ordinance for darkness, that the homeowners need to have a lot of motion detection spotlights illuminating their property in case someone enters from the street. I know that 2 of NG spotlights were destroyed, but more spotlights are necessary in dark communities. I live rural, and the sky is magnificent, even with a motion detection spotlight installed when I exit or enter my home. JMO

 

[LadyL]

TMZ's promoting itself in the midst of a horrific situation. I find it revolting.

every news station does it - they go to commercials during breaks