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Per APS vs Wellness Check:

I have had wellness checks called on me because my ex thought I was kidnapped by my brother's motorcycle gang. 2 LE came at 2 am and banged on my door and shined lights in my window until I could wake up and get dressed. 4 times.

Unless the neighbor suspected NG was being abused APS had no reason to show up. It doesn't make sense.

I had this happen with the aforementioned ex. APS came out and interviewed the caregivers. They knew they were coming and when. They don't just show up and leave a card like a landscaper. Calling APS is serious as is WChecks.

I would think APS would have to CTA if NG didn't answer the door.

JMO
It would depend on local policies, and 'normal' behaviors. MOO
 
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I can also see private searchers using drones to search a property from a distance.

Folks would suddenly get suspicious seeing a strange drone flying over their property.
FYI- It's legal to fly drones over property. As long as it's a reasonable distance (i.e above 80 ft) and you're not hovering over someone's house for a prolonged period. Property owners don't own the airspace that's beyond what is considered "a leisurely distance".
 
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Just adding 2 and 2, NG has been living in home for around 50 years. New roof, rewiring, etc.

It was on and off the market several times in 2007, then looks like another listing in 2024. It is not uncommon for a very longtime owner to put their home on the market and realize things need to be updated before it will sell. I have read a few posts indicating some work was done last year. Roofing and electrical, although that could be an error. If true, it would expose NG to people she normally would not engage with. I would expect that LE has already looked into that. MOO

This is copied from the Realor . com link you posted above:

Property history:​

Recorded since 1991: 4 permits
 
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FYI- It's legal to fly drones over property. As long as it's a reasonable distance (i.e above 80 ft) and you're not hovering over someone's house for a prolonged period. Property owners don't own the airspace that's beyond what is considered "a leisurely distance".
I heard they were flying Drones with 'Sniffers' to try and get a signal from Nancy's Pacemaker, and they have to be within so many feet for detection, which is why the low flight pattern over nearby properties. Drones creep me out, but knowing this procedure, I'd be all for it.
 
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This is so depressing :( . I've been wondering why why why haven't they been able to find vehicles that were on the road at that hour coming out of her neighborhood. I know there's more than one exit but there couldn't have been that many people out at that time. So this is why - no traffic cams that record in the Tuscon area. I appreciate you sharing this info so I can quit looking for an explanation.
I keep thinking about the gas station camera that captured Kohberger's car in Moscow, ID. Those types of business security cameras must exist in Tucson too? I'm sure there are several directions they might have driven, but as you say, how many cars would be on the roads between 2 and 3 am? I wish there would be that sort of evidence at least suggesting a direction for LE to investigate. MOO
 
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It would depend on local policies, and 'normal' behaviors. MOO

Not to mention them encountering what the neighbors called an overwhelming police response at the home.

all imo
 
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I heard they were flying Drones with 'Sniffers' to try and get a signal from Nancy's Pacemaker, and they have to be within so many feet for detection, which is why the low flight pattern over nearby properties. Drones creep me out, but knowing this procedure, I'd be all for it.
Creator of Sniffer device said the range with an extender increases to 800-1000ft
 
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That is quite an intricate theory.

First of all you would have to figure out who exactly called and why they called.

When was the APS card first reported about and/or seen on her door?
Maybe we could ask BE via X~Twitter ~ to investigate the APS card. Just how long was the card there, and who contacted APS?
 
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2 days ago, someone put up the procedure for calling APS. It showed a drop down list . Caller..then..about at least10 different optons. One said neighbor. No one specific neighbor has come forward to say they were the caller. If so, please document. Many posts a couple of weeks ago were pretty intrusive talking about another neighbor who was on camera and said he lived 15 minutes away. Many here said why was he inserting himself in the investigation? Sly remarks and I think even initials were made available. I just read and rolled by.

We have all slogged through 100s of pages about a cheap nylon gun holster. No one complained. Bring up a point of inconsistency about an APS card which would be a question mark since the case was all over the airwaves and would be superfluous considering the amount of attention immediately given and that she was not even there and that fact was KNOWN if you had TV on, and people get perturbed. IMO

Whoever put up that great APS list please put it up again. If the neighbor has been "outed" the specific neighbor who made the call..please advise. Otherwise, some of us will continue to think this was "odd" and just as potentially important as a nylon gun holster. Nanos said "they sent a neighbor to check on her. IT WAS WELL KNOWN SHE WASNT THERE! And for all the Nanos detractors, suddenly he is on the money? " Thanks. JMO IMO


“The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” Nanos said. “They sent an investigator to check on her.”


Fox News Digital's Michael Ruiz contributed to this report.
If this is so, why didn't the APS Investigator notice the local Police conducting their investigation?
 
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If this is so, why didn't the APS Investigator notice the local Police conducting their investigation?
Leaving a card at the door like that at the scene is often the way that they leave info for other professionals
 
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I know what you are referring to with the blurring... however, the house is not blurred on street view, which means it wasn't requested to be blurred by anyone.
Her address appears on street view.
 
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In a case of a missing couple from my state - they were only found by a drone. They were elderly, and lost direction when it became dark. Search parties were sent out, but after a week they finally found them near their car on a deserted road. I live rural, so there is always something flying over my property, helicopter, private plane etc, I don't mind. JMO

I live several miles from a major airport and I don't mind that airplanes and helicopters fly over my property.
 
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It's definitely different than city life for sure. When I was a teenager, I volunteered to be a camp counselor for a couple weeks in the mountains of NJ, and I was amazed and wonderstruck, as looking to the night sky, all I saw were hundreds, thousands of shooting stars! If I hadn't seen it myself, I probably wouldn't have believed it. We need to save those open spaces for future generations. It's heartbreaking to see so much taken away in the name of 'progress'. Beam me back to the '70s Scotty, if even for a day...
Stay on topic please!
 
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I'm watching the NewsNation special with Brian Entin now. He's making me feel more hopeful when he keeps saying it only takes one good tip from the public to find her. I appreciate him saying that keeping public pressure on is good for this reason.

 
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No names. Damn!
If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.
 
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