• #37,001
In a case of a missing couple from my state - they were only found by a drone. They were elderly, and lost direction when it became dark. Search parties were sent out, but after a week they finally found them near their car on a deserted road. I live rural, so there is always something flying over my property, helicopter, private plane etc, I don't mind. JMO

I live several miles from a major airport and I don't mind that airplanes and helicopters fly over my property.
 
  • #37,002
It's definitely different than city life for sure. When I was a teenager, I volunteered to be a camp counselor for a couple weeks in the mountains of NJ, and I was amazed and wonderstruck, as looking to the night sky, all I saw were hundreds, thousands of shooting stars! If I hadn't seen it myself, I probably wouldn't have believed it. We need to save those open spaces for future generations. It's heartbreaking to see so much taken away in the name of 'progress'. Beam me back to the '70s Scotty, if even for a day...
Stay on topic please!
 
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I'm watching the NewsNation special with Brian Entin now. He's making me feel more hopeful when he keeps saying it only takes one good tip from the public to find her. I appreciate him saying that keeping public pressure on is good for this reason.

 
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No names. Damn!
If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.
 
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FYI- It's legal to fly drones over property. As long as it's a reasonable distance (i.e above 80 ft) and you're not hovering over someone's house for a prolonged period. Property owners don't own the airspace that's beyond what is considered "a leisurely distance".

I understand what you're saying about property owners not owning the airspace above a reasonable distance.

To me a reasonable distance would be above the roof line of a home.

But say if a drone was flying below the roof line at window level near the windows of a home, I can see a homeowner being alarmed or irate if that situation were to happen.
 
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IMO a starry night is one of the most beautiful sights visible from Earth.

I’ve only been privileged to see it when I’ve traveled or visited friends who live in rural areas.

As a lifelong New Yorker, we typically see one or two stars, and on an exceptionally clear night, maybe three.

I love the notion of a planned community of darkness so that every night the starry sky is visible. I imagine this intentional darkness was established long before the onset of home doorbell cameras and all the other surveillance such as traffic cams.

I suppose it didn’t seem likely that an awful event like this would happen there, and that the lack of light would so compromise investigating the who, what and why of this attack. The when and the original where is known, but that’s it. We don’t know the whereabouts of Nancy now at all.

I’d have to say that forfeiting that luscious view feels more worth it to me now. I don’t feel “Big Brother” is watching me; instead I feel much more safe.

My favorite picture at MOMA is Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night,” which I’ve always found so bucolic. Now I am feeling that the deep and complete darkness can be sinister.

JMO of course.
It's such a conundrum to me as a nature lover. Lights are so harmful to night insects and migrating birds, but such a good deterrent.
 
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I personally don’t think she ever left her home alive, and if she did I doubt she was alive much longer than a day or maybe two. That’s completely my opinion. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the case being “cold” or not. Just because in your opinion she is no longer alive does not mean that the police are doing anything less to keep looking for her and figuring out what happened to her and who is responsible. MOO

Maybe there is a misunderstanding here what a “cold case” actually is, so here is a definition, “Any homicide or missing persons case in which all investigative leads known to the investigating agency have been exhausted. These cases need not be inactive for any fixed period of time so long as local law enforcement agencies have investigated all evidentiary leads to the fullest extent practicable.”

To me, cold cases have been "filed" away and largely forgotten. This is certainly not cold. Whoever mentioned a societal shift in patience is right. It's comical that people are calling this cold. MOO
 
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No names. Damn!
This about does it. No names and SNAG with DNA. He is telling NBC that this case is going no where.
 
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If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.
I think it is time f or SG and family to ask for someone else to take over the case. Today Nanos said they don't want search parties going out. This case is going cold.
 
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No, weirdly enough when you search the adjacent house's address, it doesn't show any address over NG's house even though every other house in the neighborhood shows an address. I don't know what to make of it, but, to me, it seems like wrong house/wrong burglary makes the most "sense" when combined with the known facts of the case.
So if people planning to rob the gem dealers next door had typed in the dealers’ correct home address, they wouldn’t have been led to NG’s house by Google Maps. Is that correct?

I still think there may be something to the gem-show angle. Someone posted footage here of two people suspected of taking a box from the show a few days after NG’s disappearance. The footwear, clothing and gait are all interesting, let’s say. But the post was deleted.
 
  • #37,016
If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.

Day 21/22. Honestly, if someone is taken from their home and they have zero confirmed direction of travel, they are not going to coordinate ground searches with manpower wandering around the desert, with no verifiable evidence, hoping they trip over something. Ground searches happen when there is an identified objective and a specific area supported by evidence. IMO
 
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Does this mean that nothing was found in the Range Rover? Does this mean they don’t have any suspects? Is the mixed DNA the only one that holds any clues? Will this be something that the sheriff comes out and disputes later on like so many other things we’ve heard? Sorry I’m just panicking out loud.
NBC seems to get the only info from this Sheriff as expected since SG works for them. This information is really SHOCKING.
 
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How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.
 
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If this is so, why didn't the APS Investigator notice the local Police conducting their investigation?
She may have, so just decided to leave her card to indicate she was there, and left.
 
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How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.
Good question. I really followed Gabby's case, and am ashamed to admit I don't remember 😔
 

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