AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[GMG1999]

No names. Damn!

If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.

 

[LadyL]

Sheriff says it was put there on the day she was reported missing

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023909355750650040

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yes, we just need to know 'why' they called

 

[nerosleuth]

FYI- It's legal to fly drones over property. As long as it's a reasonable distance (i.e above 80 ft) and you're not hovering over someone's house for a prolonged period. Property owners don't own the airspace that's beyond what is considered "a leisurely distance".

I understand what you're saying about property owners not owning the airspace above a reasonable distance.

To me a reasonable distance would be above the roof line of a home.

But say if a drone was flying below the roof line at window level near the windows of a home, I can see a homeowner being alarmed or irate if that situation were to happen.

 

[flashy09]

IMO a starry night is one of the most beautiful sights visible from Earth.

I’ve only been privileged to see it when I’ve traveled or visited friends who live in rural areas.

As a lifelong New Yorker, we typically see one or two stars, and on an exceptionally clear night, maybe three.

I love the notion of a planned community of darkness so that every night the starry sky is visible. I imagine this intentional darkness was established long before the onset of home doorbell cameras and all the other surveillance such as traffic cams.

I suppose it didn’t seem likely that an awful event like this would happen there, and that the lack of light would so compromise investigating the who, what and why of this attack. The when and the original where is known, but that’s it. We don’t know the whereabouts of Nancy now at all.

I’d have to say that forfeiting that luscious view feels more worth it to me now. I don’t feel “Big Brother” is watching me; instead I feel much more safe.

My favorite picture at MOMA is Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night,” which I’ve always found so bucolic. Now I am feeling that the deep and complete darkness can be sinister.

JMO of course.

It's such a conundrum to me as a nature lover. Lights are so harmful to night insects and migrating birds, but such a good deterrent.

 

[LadyL]

Maybe we could ask BE via X~Twitter ~ to investigate the APS card. Just how long was the card there, and who contacted APS?

that info about when it appeared is in the thread somewhere, probably several times - the neighbour contacted APS

search result of thread - Search results for query: APS card left in door

 

[submarine7]

I personally don’t think she ever left her home alive, and if she did I doubt she was alive much longer than a day or maybe two. That’s completely my opinion. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the case being “cold” or not. Just because in your opinion she is no longer alive does not mean that the police are doing anything less to keep looking for her and figuring out what happened to her and who is responsible. MOO

Maybe there is a misunderstanding here what a “cold case” actually is, so here is a definition, “Any homicide or missing persons case in which all investigative leads known to the investigating agency have been exhausted. These cases need not be inactive for any fixed period of time so long as local law enforcement agencies have investigated all evidentiary leads to the fullest extent practicable.”

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To me, cold cases have been "filed" away and largely forgotten. This is certainly not cold. Whoever mentioned a societal shift in patience is right. It's comical that people are calling this cold. MOO

 

[turaj]

No names. Damn!

This about does it. No names and SNAG with DNA. He is telling NBC that this case is going no where.

 

[turaj]

If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.

I think it is time f or SG and family to ask for someone else to take over the case. Today Nanos said they don't want search parties going out. This case is going cold.

 

[K.jill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025370515507216750

Does this mean that nothing was found in the Range Rover? Does this mean they don’t have any suspects? Is the mixed DNA the only one that holds any clues? Will this be something that the sheriff comes out and disputes later on like so many other things we’ve heard? Sorry I’m just panicking out loud.

 

[wibbleflea]

No, weirdly enough when you search the adjacent house's address, it doesn't show any address over NG's house even though every other house in the neighborhood shows an address. I don't know what to make of it, but, to me, it seems like wrong house/wrong burglary makes the most "sense" when combined with the known facts of the case.

So if people planning to rob the gem dealers next door had typed in the dealers’ correct home address, they wouldn’t have been led to NG’s house by Google Maps. Is that correct?

I still think there may be something to the gem-show angle. Someone posted footage here of two people suspected of taking a box from the show a few days after NG’s disappearance. The footwear, clothing and gait are all interesting, let’s say. But the post was deleted.

 

[K9Enzo]

If they can't get anything from the DNA they found, could be a long time. I still don't know why we don't see search parties.

Day 21/22. Honestly, if someone is taken from their home and they have zero confirmed direction of travel, they are not going to coordinate ground searches with manpower wandering around the desert, with no verifiable evidence, hoping they trip over something. Ground searches happen when there is an identified objective and a specific area supported by evidence. IMO

 

[turaj]

Does this mean that nothing was found in the Range Rover? Does this mean they don’t have any suspects? Is the mixed DNA the only one that holds any clues? Will this be something that the sheriff comes out and disputes later on like so many other things we’ve heard? Sorry I’m just panicking out loud.

NBC seems to get the only info from this Sheriff as expected since SG works for them. This information is really SHOCKING.

 

[Luna20]

How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.

 

[SMK777]

If this is so, why didn't the APS Investigator notice the local Police conducting their investigation?

She may have, so just decided to leave her card to indicate she was there, and left.

 

[SMK777]

How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.

Good question. I really followed Gabby's case, and am ashamed to admit I don't remember

 

[Scooby-Doo]

This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!

 

[sdmike1974]

I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?

Consider the following:

Footnote:
Yes, I know the Sheriff has softened that statement since he made it eight days ago.

 

[LRinCA]

How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.

IIRC, that case involved two searches - the first for GP and then the second exhaustingly long search for BL. I didn't really delve into it until the search was for him.

ETA: JMO/MOO and based on my recollection

 

[Pharmasgirl]

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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!

Indeed, so many mixed messages. Where's NANCY??? Time is of the essence, no?

 

[Not Funny]

Alternate theory on APS: What if NG had a scheduled appointment with the investigator for Sunday morning before church. Would an investigator show up at her house unannounced or try to contact her by phone or email first? Suppose she called previously because she suspected one of her friends or neighbors was being abused, so they scheduled to come to her house to discuss her concerns instead of her having to drive or take an Uber. The investigator went to her house on Sunday morning for their appointment, but she didn't answer the door, so the investigator left their card at the door. The investigator wouldn't call the police just because NG didn't answer the door at their scheduled time, they would call her later to reschedule. If NG did report suspected abuse, maybe the kidnappers were aware of her suspicions and kidnapped her to prevent her from talking. The sheriff wouldn't tell the media that the card was about an ongoing investigation into abuse. All MOO, just a theory.