AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Diddian]

We have so many devices in our homes anymore that have cameras, microphones, and connectivity. Consider the following:

Desktop computers
Laptops and Tablets
SMART cellphones
Apple Watch
Fitness bracelets
Streaming devices like Apple TV, Roku
Virtual assistants like Alexa or NEST
SMART TV's
SMART refrigerators or ovens
SMART lighting
SMART speakers
Robot vacuum
Wireless thermostats
Vehicles (ETA per @SaraSmile - thanks!)

Certainly NG must have had more of these than we know for certain (phone, watch).

Is it likely LE is attempting to retrieve data that might have been collected from any of these in an attempt to determine WHO and HOW MANY were in NG's home the night of Jan 31/February 1? I wonder if "exceptions to the usual" faces/voices could be whittled out of that data?

 

[TIGER0822]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025327323164410238

That is shocking in my opinion.

 

[PayrollNerd]

I remember in the Delphi case, one tip that came in, was entered into the database and was missed for years. Thus the delay in identifying the perp. I believe it was due to who it was reported to, how it was entered, sorted, cataloged or something to that effect. JMO because I didn't follow that case in depth so I'm going off memory.

When I read the headline about LE telling people to stop calling 911 with their suggestions, opinions, theories, or whatever they were speculating on, it made me think of how the tips are being tracked.

In this case the sheer volume of tips have to be entered into software, at least I would think so. I know from working in Excel for decades, sorting data and putting it into tables and picking pieces out to put into a chart, is very involved.

I wonder if they have people entering the information, someone verifying it was not only entered, but entered accurately and sorted and maintained with proper spellings of names, streets, etc. It has to be overwhelming and very stressful on the data team.

 

[Trino]

I think it is time f or SG and family to ask for someone else to take over the case. Today Nanos said they don't want search parties going out. This case is going cold.

Why wouldn't search parties be welcome because the sheriff isn't doing them?

 

[Bodhi]

IMO a starry night is one of the most beautiful sights to see from Earth.

I’ve only been privileged to see it when I’ve traveled or visited friends who live in rural areas.

As a lifelong New Yorker, we typically see one or two stars, and on an exceptionally clear night, maybe three.

I love the notion of a planned community of darkness so that every night the starry sky is visible. I imagine this intentional darkness was established long before the onset of home doorbell cameras and all the other surveillance such as traffic cams.

I suppose it didn’t seem likely that an awful event like this would happen there, and that the lack of light would so compromise investigating the who, what and why of this attack. The when and the original where is known, but that’s it. We don’t know the whereabouts of Nancy now at all.

I’d have to say that forfeiting that luscious view feels more worth it to me now. I don’t feel “Big Brother” is watching me; instead I feel much more safe.

My favorite picture at MOMA is Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night,” which I’ve always found so bucolic. Now I am feeling that the deep and complete darkness can be sinister.

JMO of course.

I love the night sky too. You describe it so well.

I don't think that dark sky-compliant lighting compromises security. It just requires that light be directed downward. Outside lights will still illuminate people and vehicles at ground level. Motion-activated lights also enhance security without contributing to light pollution. Dark sky-compliant lighting did not make residents of NG's neighborhood especially vulnerable to crime, IMO.

Nor did the lack of streetlights. The absence of streetlights is not that remarkable, IME. Streetlights are common in urban areas and suburbs. In small towns generally, only village centers have streetlights. And rural areas I'm familiar with, streetlights are not common.

IMO dark sky lighting and lack of streetlights were not significant factors in selecting NG's house as a target. The setbacks, natural vegetation, houses sited in harmony with the terrain may have been. Large, open lawns offering long sightlines to the street may be common in suburban areas but not necessarily the norm everywhere. My experience only.

 

[wibbleflea]

I can't see a video on the link (maybe because I'm in Canada?) but THANK GOODNESS! I recall him saying this that first week and had looked everywhere, but it may have been a live hit and just no clip anywhere because it really so very insignificant. Other than she was actually able to walk up to the house, like the amazon delivery guy and media, IMO

I can’t see video either, but scroll down and it says this, confirming what @ilgirl posted:

“Entin says a member of his crew saw a person leave the card at the residence after Guthrie disappeared.”

 

[PayrollNerd]

Nancy Guthrie update: Ex-FBI agent reveals "number one" lead in search

Former FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer told Newsweek that a Range Rover towed by authorities could provide key evidence.

www.newsweek.com

Snip
Jennifer Coffindaffer told Newsweek that the vehicle is, in her view, the most significant lead for law enforcement at the moment.

“The number one lead, I believe, is the Range Rover that was taken,” she said.

She added: “What I think is most disconcerting is the fact that they put a tarp on the back when they opened up that vehicle. I believe that's because of something they saw in that vehicle and they were concerned for witnesses, passersby, YouTubers, everyone else who was around the scene to see what was inside that vehicle.”

 

[SMK777]

That is shocking in my opinion.

Same.

 

[ilgirl]

News Nation broke down Brian Entin's special tonight by question and posted videos here, in case you missed them:

Nancy Guthrie case: Viewers’ questions answered

NewsNation’s Brian Entin and a special panel fielded inquiries about the missing person’s case.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[submarine7]

Did anybody watch BEs report last night? He had a retired FBI that explained that FBI has jurisdiction the same as the SD. It was interesting. He called it presumptive jurisdiction and explained any time a person is kidnapped and missing 24 hours, it's assumed they crossed state lines and becomes FBI jurisdiction.

Not sure it's relevant but it was interesting.

 

[SaraSmile]

He explained that it takes an extra step out of the process. All of the evidence they collected from the home was sent to the Florida lab.
Also all of the buccal swabs that were taken from family, friends, aquantiances were all sent there as well.

The sheriff immediately sent all crime scene DNA to the Florida lab. By the time the FBI came( day 3), FBI recommended Quantico, but the sheriff had already started at FL lab, Sheriff didn’t want to switch horses. There was more to it, if someone can find the video? Posted way back.

Most think FBI lab would be quicker, more affective. Anyway, the DNA results are coming along. The samples are big enough to double up if they need to, FL lab, plus FBI lab.
Hoping to identify the perp soon.

JMO

 

[Luna20]

I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

• They have been victims of a crime.
• Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
• Their mother might be alive and suffering.
• Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
• Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.

These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.

Everyone has different opinions. Some of us want answers to one thing that may not be significant to someone else’s perspective.

Everyone has the right to share their thoughts here, and no one can dictate what others post.

I can appreciate your passionate perspective, beyond that it isn’t my place to tell you what to post. It’s the nature of a public forum.

Of the forum, I can attest to knowing that no one wants to inflict hardship on the family.

 

[Tate123]

This case was also handled by PCSD and to date, there hasn't been any info released to the public. It's less than 4 miles from NGs house.

Pima County Sheriff's Department identifies human remains found in Foothills

The Pima County Sheriff's Department has identified the human remains found near North Swan road as 77-year-old Thomas Reuter.

www.kgun9.com

 

[scaredtopost]

ONLY ON 4: Tucson couple speaks out about finding glove near Nancy Guthrie's home

TUCSON, Ariz. (KVOA) - The investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie continues to unfold, with neighbors in the area expressing ongoing fear. Authorities are not ruling out the possibility

www.kvoa.com

I'm still 50 pages behind, but has the bloody rock been discussed?
And if neighbors are finding this evidence before LE, it seems like they should welcome the assistance but that's JMO, MOO, etc.

 

[shonyakay]

I found a clip. BE said the card on the door was placed Monday (February 2) or Tuesday (February 3).

For context -
LE released the crime scene around 9:00 in the morning on Monday February 2, 2026. After processing the scene for 20 hours.

APS card placed sometime Monday or Tuesday.

Amazon package placed at Nancy's door Monday evening at 6:00 p.m.

 

[ilgirl]

I can’t see video either, but scroll down and it says this, confirming what @ilgirl posted:

“Entin says a member of his crew saw a person leave the card at the residence after Guthrie disappeared.”

I can't see a video on the link (maybe because I'm in Canada?) but THANK GOODNESS! I recall him saying this that first week and had looked everywhere, but it may have been a live hit and just no clip anywhere because it really so very insignificant. Other than she was actually able to walk up to the house, like the amazon delivery guy and media, IMO

You should be able to see it broken down by question now here:

Nancy Guthrie case: Viewers’ questions answered

NewsNation’s Brian Entin and a special panel fielded inquiries about the missing person’s case.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[factseeking]

I find this really odd- I understand LE needs to maintain a PR/Legal stance to protect people's private property. However, a volunteer search party most likely would be aiding the search by looking at open uninhabited land (areas LE has yet to look at). I highly doubt they'd go trampling in and around people's homes/yards (since investigators already looked here) JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025323079778628034

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025323435803771034

I'm so confused about this. Is this the same thing as the report that people who want to search have been told they have to have a permit from Pima County?
The permit issue was denied by Pima County saying they don't even issue permits for searching (this denial is in the Media/Maps forum p#146 but I have no idea how to link it here). Or are these two separate issues?

 

[Bodhi]

I remember in the Delphi case, one tip that came in, was entered into the database and was missed for years. Thus the delay in identifying the perp. I believe it was due to who it was reported to, how it was entered, sorted, cataloged or something to that effect. JMO because I didn't follow that case in depth so I'm going off memory.

When I read the headline about LE telling people to stop calling 911 with their suggestions, opinions, theories, or whatever they were speculating on, it made me think of how the tips are being tracked.

In this case the sheer volume of tips have to be entered into software, at least I would think so. I know from working in Excel for decades, sorting data and putting it into tables and picking pieces out to put into a chart, is very involved.

I wonder if they have people entering the information, someone verifying it was not only entered, but entered accurately and sorted and maintained with proper spellings of names, streets, etc. It has to be overwhelming and very stressful on the data team.

IMO that's where the FBI excels. Possibly state law enforcement too.

Did the sheriff's office ask people to stop calling in tips? Not as far as I know. Investigators will always welcome concrete, productive information. I think investigators may wish to reduce the volume of frivolous, un-useful information and suggestions . As you say, the amount of manhours required to record, track, and evaluate vague or irrelevant tips hinders their ability to develop leads from actionable information.

 

[connie9030]

I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

• They have been victims of a crime.
• Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
• Their mother might be alive and suffering.
• Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
• Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.

These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.

75% to 80% of victims are killed by someone they know. I am holding out hope NG is still alive and also wish people on social media would moderate themselves but this outcome is usually the case. FBI Supplementary Homicide Data

 

[Bodhi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025327323164410238

Timely, if not overdue IMO.