Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cady]

My feeling is, and I hate saying this, that it was a sexual predator.

Could be...I just so much hope that it wasn't for that reason. yecch

 

[agnesgrey]

A lot more of that goes on in nursing homes than is reported.

Six women. Three nursing homes. And the man accused of rape and abuse

She is 53 and trapped in a facility for the old. Her left arm hangs limply at her side; in the right she cradles a baby doll she named Little Missy. Saliva drips from the corner of her mouth as she talks about her invisible boyfriend.

www.cnn.com

There’s always someone to prey on the vulnerable

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

We may not understand the motive, but it appears that removal of NG was the objective. We know very little about her daily life. Did she volunteer for organizations? Did she belong to any other groups who met regularly other than the church livestream watching group? Could she have encountered something she wasn’t meant to see or know about? If she was targeted, knowledge of NG’s circle of associates and affiliations is an important angle to understand.

 

[cady]

There’s always someone to prey on the vulnerable

But there are lots of easier marks than NG was.....jmo

 

[iamshadow21]

My feeling is, and I hate saying this, that it was a sexual predator.

That's what I've thought from the beginning.

I think all the ransom stuff is bogus, opportunists.

I think this was someone who wanted to attack and take an elderly lady. I don't think he necessarily even knew who she was, besides a woman living alone. He could live close, or could work in the area - tradesman, delivery driver, postal worker, landscaper, etc. etc. He's probably like the wallpaper, someone that wouldn't stick out.

I think she died the night of, or soon after, and her body has been stored, possibly in a freezer. Maybe because he wants to keep it, but probably because he was in no way expecting the intense media and LE presence. The whole county is like a kicked ant nest. Disposal would be very difficult right now.

MOO

 

[SaraSmile]

That's what I've thought from the beginning.

I think all the ransom stuff is bogus, opportunists.

I think this was someone who wanted to attack and take an elderly lady. I don't think he necessarily even knew who she was, besides a woman living alone. He could live close, or could work in the area - tradesman, delivery driver, postal worker, landscaper, etc. etc. He's probably like the wallpaper, someone that wouldn't stick out.

I think she died the night of, or soon after, and her body has been stored, possibly in a freezer. Maybe because he wants to keep it, but probably because he was in no way expecting the intense media and LE presence. The whole county is like a kicked ant nest. Disposal would be very difficult right now.

MOO

I like your thinking and your theory, the only extra point is that I think she was taken to the desert the first night ( died), sorry to say.
No freezer.
JMO

 

[SMK777]

People Magazine:

"Nancy’s home was not returned to the family today. Sheriff Nanos released it to the Guthrie family and announced it two days after Nancy’s disappearance. It was never out of the family’s possession: The Sheriff’s Department"

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027212970808557977

Very telling...

 

[SlimPickens]

My feeling is if random sexual predator or burglary (gone wrong) were the likely motives, then we wouldn't have seen federal warrants being issued and federal prosecutors at the home yesterday. Nor would the Sheriff have been essentially relegated to mumbling to himself for the past 3 weeks.

Those are state matters.

JMO.

 

[LouisianaRiver]

I keep thinking about her grandchildren. My grandparents are my entire world, and I know I am theirs too. Losing one so young is heartbreaking enough....but in such a sudden, violent way? To me, that is unimaginable. It is the kind of shock & trauma that lingers...I'd imagine for a lifetime. What is it doing to their young minds? Thankfully they have amazing and caring parents who will make sure they get every bit of support, love, & professional help they need.

Another night praying for them all.

 

[iamshadow21]

I like your thinking and your theory, the only extra point is that I think she was taken to the desert the first night ( died), sorry to say.

I think it depends how long he wanted to keep her, or her body.

Given that he didn't just attack her in her home but went to the trouble of taking her, that suggests he wanted to take his time with her.

It's possible that the desert was the plan, but by then it was all over the news and he had to change it up.

He could have thought that she was just a random woman, and that leaving the door open would just lead people to think she'd wandered off.

Instead, he's taken the much beloved mother of a much beloved presenter of morning television, and it's international news. And messing with the cameras meant that this was treated as an abduction from the start.

A quiet drive out to the desert for disposal is suddenly not an option.

MOO

 

[stmichael]

But there are lots of easier marks than NG was.....jmo

How so?

An elderly medically compromised woman with hearing aides living all alone in a secluded, set-back $1M home in an upscale neighborhood, with no dog, and minimum security? In an incredibly dark area of town (I was stunned to see how dark that low light ordinance makes all of Tucson), in a town with no street cams that record? Old neighbors spaced apart (most interviewed say they don't lock doors or have cameras) with no sight lines and privacy landscaping.

If I was a worker that spent time on that property and moonlighted in B&E or had a cousin on a crew that would be seem like an easy score. Even for a nighttime robbery. Maybe workers saw a safe or something else in the house (witnessed NG go into bedroom and retrieve cash to pay for the job)...erroneous assumptions are often made in these cases by room temp IQ criminals.

Quite possible they never even heard of Savannah and just saw this for face value (an old lady with presumable money living alone in a very opportunistic setting). When podcasters went to Nogales and interviewed people, no one knew about NG or even who Savannah was. Still a possibility this was random and then all the fanfare, attention and fake ransoms (we had the once arrest for that) came.

Now I still think it may be targeted w/o having any other evidence/info to go on, but I am not at all dismissing the above random scenario, which seems just as plausible to me.

 

[abanddb123]

Very telling...

How?

 

[SMK777]

How?

There might be something different afoot than what was told to the public the other day.

 

[cady]

I think it depends how long he wanted to keep her, or her body.

Given that he didn't just attack her in her home but went to the trouble of taking her, that suggests he wanted to take his time with her.

It's possible that the desert was the plan, but by then it was all over the news and he had to change it up.

He could have thought that she was just a random woman, and that leaving the door open would just lead people to think she'd wandered off.

Instead, he's taken the much beloved mother of a much beloved presenter of morning television, and it's international news. And messing with the cameras meant that this was treated as an abduction from the start.

A quiet drive out to the desert for disposal is suddenly not an option.

MOO

It was, that night, before sunrise. jmo

 

[Napoli]

Very telling...

What's it telling you? i always believed the house was no longer a restricted crime scene after the first couple of days. I was never quite sure why people thought that LE still had dominion over it. So, what is it telling you?

For me, it says The family has finally come to some kind of terms that the stuff of life has to be addressed. A property to maintain and protect. A plan for what the heck they are going to do with it if Nancy isnt found deceased and they have to wait out the 5 year statute for her to be declared dead. The cost of the maintenance and who pays and how much? Can a POA be invoked ( assuming she had one) so her assets can be used? Life stuff, mundane stuff that has to be dealt with. Offering the reward and the donation the other day was SG's way of saying...we need to wrap this up a bit. JMO. Media will start relocating and in less time than you think, i feel SG will return to NBC. One door is closing...and now she must reopen the other one...JMO

 

[Angeleyes_7]

New video Brian Entin-

 

[LRinCA]

DBM - duplicate media

 

[submarine7]

More on the 911 call:

The gist:

Jacob Owens a journalist from KVOA News 4 Tucson, took to X to report, "Here near the end of Day 25 into the search for 84 year-old Nancy Guthrie. Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos tells me that a 911 call from the night of Guthrie's abduction, about a woman hanging out a car window a few miles from her home and screaming, was found to be NOT related."

Nancy Guthrie cops drop concerning update on 911 call reporting ‘woman hanging out of car'

In a disturbing update, it has been revealed that a "chilling" 911 call was made to police on the night Nancy Guthrie disappeared.

www.aol.com

How were they so quickly able to identify and dismiss the car with a screaming woman but they don't know anything about NGs kidnapper?

 

[iamshadow21]

It was, that night, before sunrise. jmo

It was, but that would mean he'd only have her for a couple of hours at most, once you factor in driving time from her home to a secondary location, then out and back from the dump site before dawn. That's a lot of work for not much time with her.

It's entirely possible, of course.

MOO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

There’s always someone to prey on the vulnerable

I did a dive looking at some of these former cases in Tucson. There are a few, and I couldn’t find arrests in first one.

Woman claims mother was sexually assaulted by employee at Tucson nursing home

The investigation by the facility and the authorities is ongoing, according to a nursing home administrator.

www.kold.com

N4T INVESTIGATORS: Tucson nursing home certified nursing assistant fired after patient sexual abuse allegations

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department is investigating an alarming allegation made against a now former Certified Nursing Assistant at the Life Care Center of Tucson.

www.kvoa.com

Nursing assistant faces sexual assault charges

Kenneth Tim Wilson, 47, was a Certified Nursing Assistant at the facility at the time of the incident and provided direct care to the victim and other residents, according to the Tucson office of the Attorney General's office.

www.kold.com

I’ve only read parts of this, but it is by Ann Burgess.

Ann Burgess - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If a sexual assault is your theory, the case studies mentioned in this paper are interesting.

Title: Elderly Victims of Sexual Abuse and Their Offenders.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/216550.pdf