Cherry, fair enough but I was also including the family in my kicking people when they are down, phrase. For me, it's a reach, even if the guy has a drug history, that he and his mom should be maligned and dissected at this point. Car returned, phone returned. The law will handle his drug charges. Someone posted yesterday that he was looking to go after people for libel and slander, per his attorney. I just think it's a leap to keep beating this guy up and passive/ aggressively make some of the insinuations that are being made at this point. I agree we don't know what a person might do when backed into a corner. That, however, would then include every figure and family member that has been suspected and associated with NG. Then, nothing moves forward. MOO