Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Napoli]

Ahh, but it didn't matter if he fumbled the gun. Because, he wasn't ever going to use it, and he knew that.
Where was the need? He was kidnapping an 84 year old woman with mobility and health problems. No-one needs any sort of weapon for that.

I think he was only carrying it on the off-chance he ran into someone in the neighborhood who may have come across him and tried to stop him in the act, or if LE were called he could've fired at them.

But this was all unlikely, and the perp knew it. It was nearly 2am in a safe neighborhood on a very dark Sunday night. No-one was about, no-one saw, and it all went as planned.

MOO.

He had a bite light because he needed both hands AND those gloves were bulky, imo. That gun was for show and intimidation and a masculinity assertion.. IMO, he couldnt get that gun out and fire it with what appeared to be thick hand coverings. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

Yes but would a home inspector use a plant to disconnect a camera?

Probably not - I am not thinking that Lantana man is the actual inspector (because Lantana man doesn't look like the person I had in mind) but Lantana man could be someone that helped him - or maybe who he told information to - to burglarize Nancy's home.

 

[katydid23]

One note here is that they use surveillance (like installing a webcam in victims yard) so they can be sure to strike when no one is home. Can't rule anything out, but this doesn't fit those theft rings MO - MOO.

True, but they also are known to kidnap wealthy tourists when back in their home countries. So maybe they just switched it up?

 

[acutename]

I had one even tinier (I think?), purchased at REI or Sierra. It was to be used as a zipper pull & SUPER bright! Meant for backpacking, climbing, etc., where size/weight were most important.

Can he talk with this in his mouth? Did he say nothing to Nancy- just grab her?

 

[Cassie P]

Referring to your second sentence.. And that I find very strange..I did expect more ransom demands or at least some taunting communication hinting at at least something. Does anyone else here thinks it may not be about money at all??

ALL IMO

-Nin

1. Do we know for sure that no ransom was ever paid?
2. If not then perhaps it was a business crime that went bad for some reason.
3. Or it was never a business crime but personal or random violence.

 

[LRinCA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029750753561301457

 

[Forest_Wood]

He said that, but didn't another one come in after that that he reported?

MOO

Yes he did, and then nothing ...

 

[Angeleyes_7]

New Brian Entin video-

 

[mickey2942]

Nancy Grace bothers me, she is a talking head. She doesn't know anything about this case, or Tucson. She just blathers on about nothing.

 

[mickey2942]

Can he talk with this in his mouth? Did he say nothing to Nancy- just grab her?

He could turn on as many lights as he wanted once he got into the house. NG would have been pretty helpless against a healthy male. She could have even screamed, no one would have heard her, the houses are on such large lots in the area.

Sleeping, elderly, disabled, woman. He could have zip corded her in less than a minute.

 

[shonyakay]

In regards to the inspector theory - I am specifically talking about a home insurance inspector.

I read a home inspection usually occurs at the start of coverage or upon renewal and they check for structural integrity (roof, foundation), safety hazards (wiring, pipes), and maintenance issues. They typically last 30–45 minutes and are common for older or high-value homes.

Remember - a neighbor told LE that Nancy's Casita's roof looked too clean to not have been worked on recently.

 

[SlimPickens]

when did he leave iowa?

That would be the most important question in relation to this case. No idea.

JMO.

 

[shonyakay]

He could turn on as many lights as he wanted once he got into the house.

SBM - Unless he cut the power.

 

[acutename]

He could turn on as many lights as he wanted once he got into the house. NG would have been pretty helpless against a healthy male. She could have even screamed, no one would have heard her, the houses are on such large lots in the area.

Sleeping, elderly, disabled, woman. He could have zip corded her in less than a minute.

yes- sleeping people even with a weapon- cannot react fast....remember the guy in the tent in MT who was murdered? He was a healthy strong guy.

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[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029750753561301457

 

[truecrimel]

I'm wondering when they raided their homes and searched their vehicles, would LE have been allowed to bug the homes and track the vehicles until further notice?

This is a really good point. From my understanding, police can bug a residence or vehicle if a judge approves it in a warrant, but that may depend on state laws (?).

Another interesting note on this; IIRC, in his interview, the lawyer for LD stated the warrants were still sealed and even he (the lawyer) hasn’t seen them. I’m curious if maybe they did get a warrant to bug their property and that’s why the warrants are still under seal.

JMO

 

[rosesfromangels]

Nancy Grace bothers me, she is a talking head. She doesn't know anything about this case, or Tucson. She just blathers on about nothing.

She’s pushy, has a big mouth, and that is *exactly* what you want if you have a loved one murdered or missing. She confronts, and doesn’t back down.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[minazoe]

She’s pushy, has a big mouth, and that is *exactly* what you want if you have a loved one murdered or missing. She confronts, and doesn’t back down.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Nancy is a reliable little pit bull and you can always count on her to bite the legs off any case she's talking about. she does get dramatic and is sometimes off the track but boy oh boy if you want to hear the dirt on so and so, she's the one. mOO

 

[TGFsleuth]

Maybe LE is re-canvassing to see if anything has occurred to the neighbors. Sometimes a witness doesn't initially understand that what they saw, heard, know is directly related to the crime.

Maybe they are re-canvassing to see if those they thought of as "witnesses" might actually be suspects?

 

[submarine7]

In regards to the inspector theory - I am specifically talking about a home insurance inspector.

I read a home inspection usually occurs at the start of coverage or upon renewal and they check for structural integrity (roof, foundation), safety hazards (wiring, pipes), and maintenance issues. They typically last 30–45 minutes and are common for older or high-value homes.

Remember - a neighbor told LE that Nancy's Casita's roof looked too clean to not have been worked on recently.

Maybe it's just me, but I've never had an insurance agent inspect my house. When selling property I've had inspections. It could be different in Arizona?