Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Napoli]

Referring to your second sentence.. And that I find very strange..I did expect more ransom demands or at least some taunting communication hinting at at least something. Does anyone else here thinks it may not be about money at all??

ALL IMO

-Nin

Imo It was NEVER about money.

 

[Scorpiette]

Out of curiosity I asked AI what are the advantages of a crotch gun over wearing a holster on one's hip. Amongst various reasons, the following caught my eye:

Increased Ambidexterity

• Off-Hand Access: If your primary (strong-side) hand or arm is injured, it is much easier to draw the weapon with your non-dominant hand from the front than from behind your hip.

Please remember you can't discuss blurred posts

 

[LAhiker]

Some people here have said the head lamps are very bright and might be like a beacon? Hardly what a criminal wants in the dark of night to be so visible.

Most head lamps have different settings. You push the button once, and there's a fairly dim light. When you push it again, it cycles through a couple of other settings -- usually a brighter light, a blinking light, and sometimes a red light. But Lantana man may not have known that, or may have gone for a cheaper solution in the bite light.

I agree that Lantana man doesn't seem like an outdoors person. I mean, there's the cheap, fairly lousy backpack that has no waist belt.

JMO

 

[Cassie P]

Most head lamps have different settings. You push the button once, and there's a fairly dim light. When you push it again, it cycles through a couple of other settings -- usually a brighter light, a blinking light, and sometimes a red light. But Lantana man may not have known that, or may have gone for a cheaper solution in the bite light.

I agree that Lantana man doesn't seem like an outdoors person. I mean, there's the cheap, fairly lousy backpack that has no waist belt.

JMO

With the head lamp he has to push a button with one hand. With the bite light he does not have to use his hands at all. IDK if that was a factor in his thought process.

He may be more comfortable with the mouth light, use it for work, etc.

One idea I had is that he dressed in layers so he could change the outfits. The other layers were other disguises. So that is why he might not want a waist belt on the backpack. Or the head light. He needs to change in an instant. Like actors on stage in pull away costumes. IDK. I am thinking out loud.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

My post earlier

I said the same thoughts...

I think they are still getting a ping from her pacemaker in the area

So they would know she is somewhere there

 

[Napoli]

Most head lamps have different settings. You push the button once, and there's a fairly dim light. When you push it again, it cycles through a couple of other settings -- usually a brighter light, a blinking light, and sometimes a red light. But Lantana man may not have known that, or may have gone for a cheaper solution in the bite light.

I agree that Lantana man doesn't seem like an outdoors person. I mean, there's the cheap, fairly lousy backpack that has no waist belt.

JMO

He bought what he needed. Look at it this way. You need to get to work. I have a Mercedes. It gets me to work. You have a used Volkswagen bug. It gets you to work. We both have what we need to accomplish what we want. His backpack was cheap and disposable. He didn't need Osprey or Patagonia. He may even have that. But a cheap backpack served his purpose, just like your Volkswagen bug serves yours. JMO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Had my quarterly pest control service today. He noticed my husbands awards for LE service in our den and commented on his employment in the NBA. They definitely notice what you have in your house. Where your camera's are. Your house layout. And if you have pets.

Always check your window locks after you have a service person in your house. Door locks too. MOO

Good point. Thanks.

 

[buffalogal]

maybe he killed them for a reason other than just DV over family issues..interesting even if nothing. mOO

I initially thought DV as well, but LE has stated they aren't related.

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

 

[heli]

I watched it twice. It seems clear as . . . mud?

"We got what we needed and moved on?"

I'm very curious to hear what everyone else thinks about his statement.

eta: jmo/moo

Also, maybe I just interpreted it all wrong, or perhaps more accurately, my lack of interpretation is all wrong.

dbm

 

[heli]

dbm

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Referring to your second sentence.. And that I find very strange..I did expect more ransom demands or at least some taunting communication hinting at at least something. Does anyone else here thinks it may not be about money at all??

ALL IMO

-Nin

I think the ransom notes are possibly separate from the crime with NG. IMO this wasn't ever about money but rather violenting accosting somebody in their own home and possibly murdering them.

JMO

 

[heli]

Got what they needed Sheriff Nanos said. Did we ever hear what was in the vehicle they held a yellow tarp over?https://twitter.com/BrianaWhitney?r...oothills-area-on-jan-31-2026.762851/page-2140

 

[Forest_Wood]

New interview with Nanos-

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029721324772544682

I'm wondering when they raided their homes and searched their vehicles, would LE have been allowed to bug the homes and track the vehicles until further notice?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Referring to your second sentence.. And that I find very strange..I did expect more ransom demands or at least some taunting communication hinting at at least something. Does anyone else here thinks it may not be about money at all??

ALL IMO

-Nin

How do we know there weren't more ransom demands though? Didn't the TMZ guy say he wasn't going to report them anymore, so maybe there were more and we just haven't heard about it.

 

[iamshadow21]

How do we know there weren't more ransom demands though? Didn't the TMZ guy say he wasn't going to report them anymore, so maybe there were more and we just haven't heard about it.

He said that, but didn't another one come in after that that he reported?

MOO

 

[submarine7]

With the head lamp he has to push a button with one hand. With the bite light he does not have to use his hands at all. IDK if that was a factor in his thought process.

He may be more comfortable with the mouth light, use it for work, etc.

One idea I had is that he dressed in layers so he could change the outfits. The other layers were other disguises. So that is why he might not want a waist belt on the backpack. Or the head light. He needs to change in an instant. Like actors on stage in pull away costumes. IDK. I am thinking out loud.

Also, you can direct the light down toward whatever your hands need to do.

 

[Napoli]

Ahh, but it didn't matter if he fumbled the gun. Because, he wasn't ever going to use it, and he knew that.
Where was the need? He was kidnapping an 84 year old woman with mobility and health problems. No-one needs any sort of weapon for that.

I think he was only carrying it on the off-chance he ran into someone in the neighborhood who may have come across him and tried to stop him in the act, or if LE were called he could've fired at them.

But this was all unlikely, and the perp knew it. It was nearly 2am in a safe neighborhood on a very dark Sunday night. No-one was about, no-one saw, and it all went as planned.

MOO.

He had a bite light because he needed both hands AND those gloves were bulky, imo. That gun was for show and intimidation and a masculinity assertion.. IMO, he couldnt get that gun out and fire it with what appeared to be thick hand coverings. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

Yes but would a home inspector use a plant to disconnect a camera?

Probably not - I am not thinking that Lantana man is the actual inspector (because Lantana man doesn't look like the person I had in mind) but Lantana man could be someone that helped him - or maybe who he told information to - to burglarize Nancy's home.

 

[katydid23]

One note here is that they use surveillance (like installing a webcam in victims yard) so they can be sure to strike when no one is home. Can't rule anything out, but this doesn't fit those theft rings MO - MOO.

True, but they also are known to kidnap wealthy tourists when back in their home countries. So maybe they just switched it up?

 

[acutename]

I had one even tinier (I think?), purchased at REI or Sierra. It was to be used as a zipper pull & SUPER bright! Meant for backpacking, climbing, etc., where size/weight were most important.

Can he talk with this in his mouth? Did he say nothing to Nancy- just grab her?