Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[girlhasnoname]

Hoping for some answers and resolution to this sad situation. The not knowing has got to be so very hard on the Guthrie family.

#Justice4Nancy

 

[Cassie P]

My head lamp allows you to wave a hand in front of it to turn it off and on. But even on the dimmer setting, it’s way brighter than a tiny keyring light. Too bright for his purposes, I think.

So what was the point of the tiny keyring light? Does it throw enough light to see anything? Did it serve any practical purpose?

 

[Napoli]

So what was the point of the tiny keyring light? Does it throw enough light to see anything? Did it serve any practical purpose?

He thought so! He brought the smallest, least cumbersome source of illumination he needed. He could have carried a torch, a flashlight or been accompanied by a fire-breathing dragon. He was aided, by choice of date or happenstance, that there was a full moon that night. Mission accomplished. jmo

 

[Angeleyes_7]

More of Briana Whitney’s interview yesterday with Sheriff Nanos. I found it very interesting what he says about the photos of the suspects that were released and whether they were on different days. He says they have no evidence they were taken on different days.
Sheriff Nanos also addresses the gloves and that searchers from the Sheriff’s Dept. would not have left them after searching.

 

[wibbleflea]

So what was the point of the tiny keyring light? Does it throw enough light to see anything? Did it serve any practical purpose?

Yes, those tiny keyring lights work very well for short distances. I used to have one and loved it. You can see the perp flash it on when he approaches the porch step, to make sure he doesn’t trip. In the pitch dark, it’s enough for that. He also uses it when dealing with the Nest doorbell cam.

A head torch can be used for hiking and walks on unlit roads. I’ve used mine for that. This is different. It’s a tiny thing that might illuminate a car door or front door to make key insertion easier.

In the video, the light seems to be offset, coming from the side of the mouth. Also, it looks like we see teeth, which may be part of a mesh mask. Hard to say. But we don’t see a typical flashlight or bite light (like the Illumibite) protruding from the mouth.

 

[wibbleflea]

This is available on Amazon. I’m sure there are many of similar type sold in costume shops, party stores, etc. I’m not sold on a double mask theory, but it certainly possible.

On the video, do you see teeth and an unmoving mouth, when the flashlight is off? And the light coming from (roughly) where the mouth appears? That’s what I’m seeing. So it’s possible that we’re seeing a thin, mesh-type mask (under the ski mask) that covers the real mouth entirely, shows teeth/lips and allows light to shine through it. If it’s thin enough, it could mean that the moustache is real and showing through the mesh.

I don’t think the video is good enough to rule anything in or out, though. Real face, rubber/silicone mask, mesh mask – all possible.

 

[pitbull]

Has LE said the ransom notes were ABSOLUTELY genuine? Having a hard time believing the note is real without the kidnappers offering some proof of life.

The bite light is also interesting. I've only seen tradesmen use these...mechanics, electricians and such.

 

[Sarahlou]

Has LE said the ransom notes were ABSOLUTELY genuine? I'm having a tough time believing kidnappers, if real, wouldn't offer some proof of life. What would be the point of the first demand?

That's the most confusing thing about this case to me.

 

[Napoli]

More of Briana Whitney’s interview yesterday with Sheriff Nanos. I found it very interesting what he says about the photos of the suspects that were released and whether they were on different days. He says they have no evidence they were taken on different days.
Sheriff Nanos also addresses the gloves and that searchers from the Sheriff’s Dept. would not have left them after searching.

the FBI AGENTS in the above video are wearing blue gloves. Discarded gloves people are seeing along the road etc are BLACK gloves. Searchers, LE etc, imo didnt wear black gloves. So gloves found and tested were not from sloppy searchers who discarded them. jmo

 

[Sadi]

My head lamp allows you to wave a hand in front of it to turn it off and on. But even on the dimmer setting, it’s way brighter than a tiny keyring light. Too bright for his purposes, I think.

Wouldn’t he need to take it out of his mouth to talk? There would be salvia on his face and gloves, he had to have left some trace in the house. Since LE hasn’t been able to identify the DNA yet, is it most likely he doesn’t have a criminal record?

 

[wibbleflea]

Has LE said the ransom notes were ABSOLUTELY genuine? Having a hard time believing the note is real without the kidnappers offering some proof of life.

They haven’t anything definitive about whether it’s real. It offered two details about the crime scene. One of them wouldn’t have been known to outsiders (location of Apple Watch). The other (rear floodlights “destroyed’) may not have been, either. But no proof of life that we know of. (Source: Levin talking to Cuomo on Newsnation.)

My guess is that it was sent by the perpetrator(s). Can think of a few explanations for the absence of proof of life.

 

[wibbleflea]

Wouldn’t he need to take it out of his mouth to talk? There would be salvia on his face and gloves, he had to have left some trace in the house. Since LE hasn’t been able to identify the DNA yet, is it most likely he doesn’t have a criminal record?

I had a keyring light like this but didn’t experiment with putting it in my mouth and talking ;-)

I think he’d have been able to talk and keep the light in his mouth behind a mesh mask, which would have minimised saliva drips.

It’s possible that he didn’t need to say much. He had a gun and could just have bundled her out of there using gestures and short phrases, removing the mask(s) and light only after reaching the car.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

SBM - Unless he cut the power.

Hmmm, if he cut the power, is there some obscure location he could then access...leaving that location unidentifiable? Where.is.Nancy???

 

[pitbull]

They haven’t anything definitive about whether it’s real. It offered two details about the crime scene. One of them wouldn’t have been known to outsiders (location of Apple Watch). The other (rear floodlights “destroyed’) may not have been, either. But no proof of life that we know of. (Source: Levin talking to Cuomo on Newsnation.)

My guess is that it was sent by the perpetrator(s). Can think of a few explanations for the absence of proof of life.

Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

I've always wondered if the perp/s targeted the wrong home...JMO

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

Just catching up here and wanted to add two random things:

1. I have a friend in the jewelry industry who has attended the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show for numerous years. She said that items get stolen from the show ALL the time and that it's kind of free-for-all. In my personal opinion, if someone wanted gems, they could hit the show and steal there. Check out the videos of the show this year - people have backpacks, huge purses, etc. - and the show is HUGE size-wise. IMO, no need to rob NG's house (or any other house) for gems.

2. Has LE ever said one way or another that this was an isolated incident and there is no threat to the public? Personally, I feel feel this was likely a targeted act, but if I am wrong and the individual(s) responsible like to prey on the elderly, I'd hope LE would issue some kind of blanket statement to the general public. Maybe that's me asking too much.

All IMO.

 

[FaviousM]

Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

This is the way I've been leaning with the ransom notes, that it was essentially just an extortion attempt from someone with a little bit of inside knowledge

Obviously without having the actual contents of the notes we have no idea just how detailed the information given was but it just never exactly felt like LE were treating them as 100% real

 

[wibbleflea]

Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

Possible, or possibly from someone who was told details of the investigation by the family or LE. The first ransom notes were received by KGUN9 and KOLD on Monday evening, so only the day after the abduction – not that long. The following day, TMZ got the same note.

My initial thought was that the note was sent after the perp drove some distance from Tucson, but I'm not sure what to think.

 

[Data Sleuth]

I think if they got a ping using the sniffer, they would very quickly be able to pinpoint it by reducing the range.

Let’s say they got a ping with the range being 1000 ft (it would be an approximate circle with 1000 ft radius) then reduce the signal boost by for example 100 ft and see if the ping drops, if it does then we can go with the theory that the device is in that outer ring of the circle, you can then reduce the range right down and fly around the perimeter of that circle until you get a ping.

Hope this makes sense, I am not an expert by any means, this is just my understanding on what I have read about how it works.

While I do not have a complete understanding of how the pacemaker sniffer functions, doesn’t it pickup ALL pacemakers in a given area? There are many, many people with pacemakers these days (not just the elderly).
It would see that if a helicopter flew over a housing development it would pickup many, many signals. Making it difficult to evaluate all of the residents in the neighborhood.
In my opinion the sniffer would be more effective when utilized in an area where a body may lie in the desert, park, open lots etc.

My opinion only

 

[wibbleflea]

Has LE ever said one way or another that this was an isolated incident and there is no threat to the public? Personally, I feel feel this was likely a targeted act, but if I am wrong and the individual(s) responsible like to prey on the elderly, I'd hope LE would issue some kind of blanket statement to the general public. Maybe that's me asking too much.

I don't know of anything they've said one way or the other, and that seems significant. My take (no evidence!) is that if they felt there was a broader threat, they'd have said something. I'm reminded of McKee murdering the Tepes – LE said nothing about a broader threat, believing early on that it was targeted. I agree it was likely targeted.

Agreed with your point about the gem show. It seems unlikely, though I don't know what to rule out, based on the little we know and the bizarreness of this case.

 

[SMK777]

FBI searches home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house

FBI searches home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house

FBI agents searched a home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house as the investigation entered Day 32.

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