• #42,901
Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?
If I remember correctly, it either the last or second to last press conference. It was definitely both mentioned at the conference that there was an Uber driver and that they spoke with the driver.
 
  • #42,902
  • #42,903
Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?
Nanos would not discuss reports of a forced entry at the home as far as whether there was or was not a forced entry. He added that investigators have spoken to an Uber driver who took Nancy Guthrie to the residence of her daughter earlier on Jan. 31.
 
  • #42,904
FBI searches home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house

The headline is misleading though. The FBI agents were seen in the garage and driveway after talking to several neighborhood residents. It appears they were not searching the interior of the home. I wish news wouldn't create sensational headlines just for clicks. JMO
 
  • #42,905
Just catching up here and wanted to add two random things:

1. I have a friend in the jewelry industry who has attended the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show for numerous years. She said that items get stolen from the show ALL the time and that it's kind of free-for-all. In my personal opinion, if someone wanted gems, they could hit the show and steal there. Check out the videos of the show this year - people have backpacks, huge purses, etc. - and the show is HUGE size-wise. IMO, no need to rob NG's house (or any other house) for gems.

2. Has LE ever said one way or another that this was an isolated incident and there is no threat to the public? Personally, I feel feel this was likely a targeted act, but if I am wrong and the individual(s) responsible like to prey on the elderly, I'd hope LE would issue some kind of blanket statement to the general public. Maybe that's me asking too much.

All IMO.
I addressed this some time ago. No, they didnt issue anything that i am aware of and i looked. People here have said "well obviously people in the area knew there was this incident etc". Not good enough for me. Again, IMO, pay attention to what wasnt said by LE. JMO
 
  • #42,906
Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?
From CNN
Guthrie took an Uber to her daughter Annie’s home around 5:32 p.m. on Saturday, January 31, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said. He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open” and shared video of Guthrie from inside their car, he added.
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person
Elsewhere I recall they referred to the Uber driver as "she" but I didn't find that link with a quick search.
 
  • #42,907
The headline is misleading though. The FBI agents were seen in the garage and driveway after talking to several neighborhood residents. It appears they were not searching the interior of the home. I wish news wouldn't create sensational headlines just for clicks. JMO
Yes, now that I had a chance to read it, I agree!
 
  • #42,908
I had a keyring light like this but didn’t experiment with putting it in my mouth and talking ;-)

I think he’d have been able to talk and keep the light in his mouth behind a mesh mask, which would have minimised saliva drips.

It’s possible that he didn’t need to say much. He had a gun and could just have bundled her out of there using gestures and short phrases, removing the mask(s) and light only after reaching the car.
He doesn't need to talk much, if at all?

All he has to do is grab the victim and drag her out the front door. If she was sleeping she might not immediately know what is happening. Half asleep she could think it is a fireman or something, dragging her out of a burning house. Or some sort of emergency in the middle of the night.

She doesn't realize what is happening until she gets to the porch and then starts struggling.

I doubt he took off his disguise in front of her. He seemed hell bent on not being identified. He could have taken the top layer disguise off and revealed another disguise costume layer.
 
  • #42,909
She’s pushy, has a big mouth, and that is *exactly* what you want if you have a loved one murdered or missing. She confronts, and doesn’t back down.

Amateur opinion and speculation

My issue in this case, is that Nancy Grace makes statements that don't make sense for the area. She makes broad, sweeping generalizations, as "facts", when anyone who lives in Tucson knows is not correct.

It ends up being complete garbage, said with such conviction it seems like it is true. Which, to me, makes everything she says is basically garbage.
 
  • #42,910
Even a bright, talented, highly educated non criminal is going to make mistakes. Like the vascular surgeon who killed the Tepe's.

I agree, we can no longer say that in the Guthrie case the perp is a kid, a druggie, an impulse crime, a street person, inexperienced, etc. You don't evade the FBI and 400 agents for this long if that were the case?

Most first time criminals, no matter how smart, make mistakes. So I am going to guess this is the not the first crime the guy has committed. At the least he had to do some dry runs, practice sessions.

Yes a methodical person. Meticulous about detail. Planned it carefully ahead of time. Often first time criminals plan the crime itself but not the exit plan. This guy planned it all looks like.

<modsnip>

The guy in this case is a careful thinker, but wider in scope that most deep thinkers. There are a lot of moving parts to this crime, many different pieces and he appears to have done well with all of them. Perhaps there is more than one person involved.

It wouldn't be the first time a suspect was found to be a neighbor. Time will tell.

Thanks for the welcome. I have been racking my brain trying to comprehend the why which might help lead to the who. I do think Nancy was specifically targeted and that some time and effort went into avoiding detection. I also speculate that the bad actor(s) are not the usual type, e.g. not cartel, not burglary gone wrong. It appears that whoever is behind this knows the territory/neighborhood - is comfortable in a place that is remote and dark so maybe someone nearby with an axe to grind? I just read on here that LE is going house to house in the neighborhood. Glad for this.

Bbm

I agree with the bolded.

The video of two LE walking back to their car via the driveway of NG’s neighbor’s house shows the house number on the mailbox of the neighbor, and it is the neighbor to the west (a bit southwest on her street, to be more precise).

I don't understand the gem situation in Tucson.

The daughter has gems, NG has gems, the neighbor has gems? Do most people have gems in this town?

There is a big gem show every year with large amounts of cash or bitcoin.

Are precious stones mined in the desert around Tucson? Did NG have a connection to mines? Are gem robberies common in Tucson?

NG’s late husband was a mining engineer.
 
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Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

I've always wondered if the perp/s targeted the wrong home...JMO
Interesting idea. RN not sent by perp but by someone in the home right after the abduction who saw the evidence mentioned in the RN. How many people were in and out of that house the day after the crime?
 
  • #42,913

FBI searches home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house​


(NewsNation) — FBI agents were seen Thursday investigating the home directly west of Nancy Guthrie’s house as the search for the missing mother of “Today” show anchor Savannah Guthrie continued.

Agents were seen in the garage and driveway area speaking with several neighbors.

I just watched Brian Entin’s update from yesterday and it was really interesting. He talked to one of the neighbors and the neighbor didn’t share all of the details about the conversation with the FBI, only said it was something along the lines of questions that were previously asked. He also said FBI went into some of the neighbors homes, but not all of them. I wonder what they were looking for?
 
  • #42,914
Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

I've always wondered if the perp/s targeted the wrong home...JMO
They didnt wait DAYS! Nancy was kidnapped during the early morning hours of Sunday February 1. jmo

BBM The first ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case were received by local Tucson, Arizona, media outlets, including KOLD and KGUN, on the evening of Monday, February 2, 2026. These initial notes demanded millions in Bitcoin and set deadlines for Thursday, February 5, and Monday, February 9
 
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Bbm

I agree with the bolded.

The video of two LE walking back to their car via the driveway of NG’s neighbor’s house shows the house number on the mailbox of the neighbor, and it is the neighbor to the west (a bit southwest on her street, to be more precise).



NG’s late husband was a mining engineer.
So she would have some gems?
 
  • #42,916
While I do not have a complete understanding of how the pacemaker sniffer functions, doesn’t it pickup ALL pacemakers in a given area? There are many, many people with pacemakers these days (not just the elderly).
It would see that if a helicopter flew over a housing development it would pickup many, many signals. Making it difficult to evaluate all of the residents in the neighborhood.
In my opinion the sniffer would be more effective when utilized in an area where a body may lie in the desert, park, open lots etc.

My opinion only
The pacemaker 'talks' to the phone app using bluetooth. Bluetooth is very low power and generally travels only a short distance. Think similar to a Fitbit watch communicating to an iphone. There would be many, many bluetooth signals in a 1000 foot radius in a residential or urban area. However, each bluetooth device has a unique MAC address. The sniffer would receive many bluetooth signals, but would be searching for NG's pacemaker's specific MAC address. If they get close enough, identifying it is not a problem.
 
  • #42,917
So she would have some gems?

In my current thoughts about her disappearance, whether she had gems or not is immaterial, because I think she was targeted, not any of her possessions.
 
  • #42,918
They didnt wait DAYS! Nancy was kidnapped during the early morning hours of Sunday February 1. jmo

BBM The first ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case were received by local Tucson, Arizona, media outlets, including KOLD and KGUN, on the evening of Monday, February 2, 2026. These initial notes demanded millions in Bitcoin and set deadlines for Thursday, February 5, and Monday, February 9
My bad....I actually meant soon thereafter. It's more a day and a half, if we are to believe the camera time stamps...apologies.
 
  • #42,919
In my current thoughts about her disappearance, whether she had gems or not is immaterial, because I think she was targeted, not any of her possessions.
Yes it is not looking like a simple robbery.

Sometimes when investigations are stalled or hit a brick wall, you go back and look at the basics again. To make sure you haven't missed anything.
 
  • #42,920
So she would have some gems?

I think that would be stretch.
A mining engineer wouldn’t necessarily work in a gem mine and wouldn’t necessarily have an interest in collecting gems.
 
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