Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Data Sleuth]

The pacemaker 'talks' to the phone app using bluetooth. Bluetooth is very low power and generally travels only a short distance. Think similar to a Fitbit watch communicating to an iphone. There would be many, many bluetooth signals in a 1000 foot radius in a residential or urban area. However, each bluetooth device has a unique MAC address. The sniffer would receive many bluetooth signals, but would be searching for NG's pacemaker's specific MAC address. If they get close enough, identifying it is not a problem.

Thank you! The info you provided is great and gives me a better understanding of the process.

 

[Napoli]

I feel like with it only being a month into this crime and LE no longer utilizing the free national/worldwide media platform to keep this case persistently in the public eye, they probably have a good idea of what happened and likely even who did it. When law enforcement begins to persuade media to leave it likely means they only have to fine tune the evidence at this point.

If you really think about it, with a general public that is still on the edge of their seats (and are hungry to help), there is no way a combined law enforcement effort of this size and scope is suddenly going to stop giving press conferences and not capitalize on the free and far reaching publicity that could help them solve this case. That is, unless they no longer need to.

JMO

We are at war, it would appear. The Guthrie case cannot compete with that. It was a headline grabber for sure and certainly intrigued the masses. It was not a 24/7 national concern worthy, all absorbing subject that they made it out to be. Once the ransom notes, Instagram responses by the family and the high speed , cinematic raids were done, the networks were left with 25 portly, "talking- expert" heads who dished the dirt and said virtually nothing.

I dont think LE has much. Or not enough to create news above what the pod casters are trying to breathe life into. SG going to NBC yesterday was not news, imo. It was a hat tip to her grief, perhaps but it told us nothing. She will go back but doesnt know when. Hardly, definitive. That's all. Not sure we even needed to know that. basically a filler story to give viewers a little piece of something to chew on and a respite from Iran. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

The power had to be on in order for the camera to get its footage to the cloud

I still think the power being cut can't be ruled out yet because a battery-powered Google Nest camera like the one that was located by Nancy's door will continue to record motion-activated events even if the electricity/Wi-Fi goes out.
It saves any motion-activated clips to local memory for up to one hour.

Why did the Sheriff say that he didn't believe that they would be able to recover anymore footage after the door nest camera footage was released? He mentioned previously that Nancy had "multiple cameras". Why hasn't there been any other video clips of Lantana man shared besides the one from the battery operated door nest camera?
Why was the door camera the only camera (that we know of) taken by the Perp?

 

[Bruxer]

I will post this with the caveat that it is JMO.

What if someone who was due to make a lot of money off of Nancy selling her home got angry after it was taken off the market? I am NOT speaking about family. We talked about home inspectors gaining access but what about real estate agents? They (and anyone they may have been in contact with) would have presumably had access for a while?

 

[shonyakay]

I think he did leave the power on. My reasoning is that the Sheriff said in an early interview that 'all the lights were on in the common areas'. Why would someone turn the power off and then turn it on again when they leave? I'll try and find my earlier post with the link to the sheriffs interview.

Please provide a link. IF the Sheriff really stated that lights were on in the house then I would discount the theory that the power was shut off.

 

[Napoli]

My bad....I actually meant soon thereafter. It's more a day and a half, if we are to believe the camera time stamps...apologies.

Oh Gosh! Don't apologize. I can see your confusion it if the ransom notes were sent days later and it would be more of an after thought. They were sent approximately 36 hours later, so proximate to the kidnapping. Does that change anything for you?

 

[teeandcee]

I admit I’m shocked this hasn’t been solved, especially with the video. I thought it’d be a week tops then either she’d be returned or her body found.

I feel so bad for the family. I hope they get some kind of resolution rather than this living hell of not knowing.

 

[stmichael]

I still think the power being cut can't be ruled out yet because a battery-powered Google Nest camera like the one that was located by Nancy's door will continue to record motion-activated events even if the electricity/Wi-Fi goes out.
It saves any motion-activated clips to local memory for up to one hour.

Why did the Sheriff say that he didn't believe that they would be able to recover anymore footage after the door nest camera footage was released? He mentioned previously that Nancy had "multiple cameras". Why hasn't there been any other video clips of Lantana man shared besides the one from the battery operated door nest camera?
Why was the door camera the only camera (that we know of) taken by the Perp?

Why did he even approach the enclosed brick vestibule? has been something I have mulled over.


There was no sign of forced entry including a welded steel security door and the side glass windows were intact (a common point to breach to reach in and flip open the deadbolt).

The vestibule was dark and provided cover, but he seemed surprised by the doorbell camera. It was however tucked away and the scope of the camera was narrowed by the structure of the brick vestibule and far enough from the side yard approach that it didn't even need to be disabled as a general casing of the home. It was a hard point with a steel security door and multiple locksets and a deadbolt.

A couple possibilities remain as to why he approached there.

1. He used the front door as a ruse to get NG to the door and then intimidated and coerced her into opening the door as he was clearly displaying what looked to be a firearm. If he had some info on her or her family he could have yelled a ruse convincing enough to get a startled elderly woman to come to the door then say he'll shoot her through the door/window and she panicked and let him in. Stranger things have happened.

2. Another possibility is he had an accomplice already on the inside and they removed NG through the front door into the driveway (trail of blood right at door swing clearance) to a waiting vehicle (which would be obscured from the street - see pics related. Police truck at walkway is obscured from street view in daylight). In that case, however, I would expect his approach to be more purpose-driven, quick and non-hesitant. The way he went about it doesn't translate into that scenario but maybe he's just weird like that. That would indicate a different primary point of entry and I am curious to see what evidence if any of that the investigation has. I would also be interested to know the camera blind spots on the property in this context.

 

[Sadi]

This article mentions one piece of evidence was taken from FBI’s visit yesterday. It doesn’t include from exactly where or what it is. Hopefully I copied the link correctly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029737806147506611

 

[Former Reporter]

This is a really good point. From my understanding, police can bug a residence or vehicle if a judge approves it in a warrant, but that may depend on state laws (?).

Another interesting note on this; IIRC, in his interview, the lawyer for LD stated the warrants were still sealed and even he (the lawyer) hasn’t seen them. I’m curious if maybe they did get a warrant to bug their property and that’s why the warrants are still under seal.

JMO

I would bet that is the case. If the warrants were unsealed and they are employing covert tactics, the POIs would know. If I am remembering correctly from the numerous books I've read about the Scott and Laci Peterson case, they had trackers and bugs on Scott almost immediately.

 

[maskedwoman]

Has any one thought about the possibility that Latana Man is someone with a show business background?

Some here have felt there was something odd and off about his appearance and clothing choices. It is like he is wearing a Walmart crime costume. Presenting as what he thought a criminal should look like. Maybe something seen from TV or movies.

Do we see what looks like alteration to his appearance with make up or something else under the masks? Someone familiar with stage make up perhaps?

All the masks and layers of clothing. Could be hiding other costumes and disguises? Peel off an outer layer and he looks like a maintenance man or delivery guy. Peel off another layer and we are looking at nurse, doctor, police uniform.

And we know that SG is in show business and NG was involved with some of her TV specials. There had to be Hollywood production types involved?

IDK, just brainstorming and throwing out an idea. Please feel free to tear it apart.

I do think his gear looks a bit stereotypical, as in, tv shows and bad movies may have informed their gear choices. But I wouldn't go so far as thinking this points to them having a show business background.

I'm willing to be convinced, but I'm not sure I could agree that SG is in show business. And I would not assume they hired local crew. There seems to be a pecking order with these things. When GMA came to Nashville, I believe they brought their own crew. The local news people weren't even allowed to catch them on film. A former GMA weather person was caught on someone's cell phone telling a local camera man "remember the rules" because he thought they accidentally caught him on camera moving the shot from one spot to another. It's an old clip and I couldn't find it just now, so I'll end with MOOooo

 

[Rick7788]

No - that's the house to the south on the same side. The videos that came out show it to be the house across the street but a little south.

No--it is the house next door on the same side of street.
They have been to this house many many many many many times.
Something about this house has piqued their interest more than any other, IMO.
They keep going back.......
Remember--LE was seen behind this house going removing the manhole cover and probing with a pole back on Feb 8th.

As an aside--is this also the house where the lady resident has been antagonistic/hostile towards the media?
Upthread there was video of a resident lashing out at reporters. Anyone know if this is the same house/resident?

 

[Former Reporter]

Pima County says the image we have doesn't have that timestamp


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https://twitter.com/x/status/2029729466596065334

BUT PATEL KNEW THE TIMESTAMPS

Kash Patel said the images were from THE MORNING OF HER DISAPPEARANCE

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If I was the Sheriff's PIO, I would have gagged him by now.

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

I'm an old lady, as I say often. On the one hand, this case is disappointing. I wanted it solved quickly because it is horrible and because I can imagine Nancy's fear and the family's heartbreak. On the other hand, this case is a lesson for me. It's good to be reminded that in a world where we go to war suddenly with little cause or a teenager becomes a billionaire with TikTok videos, sometimes hard work and difficult solutions still go on-- without glory or cheering crowds. I choose to believe that's what's happening behind the scenes here. It's always what's happened in police work, and the pace of today's world has not changed that. With all the technology, with all the gadgets. With all the media attention. There's still plodding and slow methodical work. It's still a jigsaw puzzle that sits on the table for weeks. It's hard to do that kind of project with the world watching, but thank goodness, LE does. FBI chiefs come and go, but our local LE agencies endure through failure and success. Just my thought for the day. Wishing LE well as they work hard-- and don't get distracted by what the public demands.

 

[Sadi]

Why did he even approach the enclosed brick vestibule? has been something I have mulled over.


There was no sign of forced entry including a welded steel security door and the side glass windows were intact (a common point to breach to reach in and flip open the deadbolt).

The vestibule was dark and provided cover, but he seemed surprised by the doorbell camera. It was however tucked away and the scope of the camera was narrowed by the structure of the brick vestibule and far enough from the side yard approach that it didn't even need to be disabled as a general casing of the home. It was a hard point with a steel security door and multiple locksets and a deadbolt.

A couple possibilities remain as to why he approached there.

1. He used the front door as a ruse to get NG to the door and then intimidated and coerced her into opening the door as he was clearly displaying what looked to be a firearm. If he had some info on her or her family he could have yelled a ruse convincing enough to get a startled elderly woman to come to the door then say he'll shoot her through the door/window and she panicked and let him in. Stranger things have happened.

2. Another possibility is he had an accomplice already on the inside and they removed NG through the front door into the driveway (trail of blood right at door swing clearance) to a waiting vehicle (which would be obscured from the street - see pics related. Police truck at walkway is obscured from street view in daylight). In that case, however, I would expect his approach to be more purpose-driven, quick and non-hesitant. The way he went about it doesn't translate into that scenario but maybe he's just weird like that. That would indicate a different primary point of entry and I am curious to see what evidence if any of that the investigation has. I would also be interested to know the camera blind spots on the property in this context.

I thought three people were involved with this kidnapping, but after others mentioned it would be difficult for one of them not to turn around and call a tip in. I’m now thinking only one person or two at the most are involved. If any of the neighbors have an adult male living at home with them and resemble the suspect, I hope they have made a call to report it. I’m really hoping something big happens soon and an arrest is coming.

 

[wibbleflea]

Entin spoke yesterday with people who'd been newly interviewed by investigators. Speaking to Maureen O'Connell, he said this:

“One of the neighbors I spoke to (who I know just from being out there so long) told me that there wasn't anything significantly new that they were asking, but he said he got the feeling that [the investigators] were more confident this time. Like, he just said he had a feeling of confidence like things were moving in the right direction.”

The link has been posted multiple times but this should start at the right place for you to hear the snippet above.

 

[SaraSmile]

I agree. Whoever did this is either dead or moved on.
They tried their big plan for a big payday and it failed epically on that level. Probably because 84 year old NG died in the process.
But they didn’t get caught.
When a million dollars doesn’t inspire somebody, it’s over.

I think he moved on, but is not dead! Just back to regular life, acting normal!
As far as $1mil, none of his family or associates have noticed a change, so no one to turn in!
JMO

 

[Rick7788]

Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?

I know we wont get any info on it now--but would have been interesting to see an interview with the Uber driver(female) to get a feel for the conversion she had with NG.

I know it was probably just a short 10 minute ride(assuming she came from her own house)---but sometimes small chit-chat can reveal mood/purpose of the trip etc etc. Maybe some clues. Maybe not. But would be interesting to know anyways.

 

[shonyakay]

BBM We havent seen that. .Sheriff's Speculation on Motion Alerts: Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos noted that while a sensor detected movement at 2:12 a.m., there was no saved video for that specific alert. He stated it was possible the camera was triggered by "something else, jmo

February 5, 2026 Sheriff Nanos stated the following,

"Sunday morning, early morning at 1:47 a.m. the doorbell camera disconnects."

"At 2:12 a.m., software detects a person on camera, but there's no video available. They had no subscription and therefore it would rewrite itself. Kind of it, it just kind of loops right, and covers up.
That's what are analysis teams have told us. We're not done with that. We'll do all we can, but that's what it says. So, that detects a person on camera. Could that be an animal? I imagine that's possible. We don't know that. We just have no video, but we're not giving up on that."

Five days later on February 10, 2026 the FBI with the help of Google successfully recovered Nancy's front door nest camera footage via residual data in Google's backend system.

 

[Napoli]

I still think the power being cut can't be ruled out yet because a battery-powered Google Nest camera like the one that was located by Nancy's door will continue to record motion-activated events even if the electricity/Wi-Fi goes out.
It saves any motion-activated clips to local memory for up to one hour.

Why did the Sheriff say that he didn't believe that they would be able to recover anymore footage after the door nest camera footage was released? He mentioned previously that Nancy had "multiple cameras". Why hasn't there been any other video clips of Lantana man shared besides the one from the battery operated door nest camera?
Why was the door camera the only camera (that we know of) taken by the Perp?

I looked at that photo of the exterior of the back of the home. There was an enclosure. Entrance to it may or may not have had a lock. The air conditioning unit was inside the enclosure. The circuit breaker box was attached to the house and to the right. First, the enclosure may have been locked. He might have to deal with that. Otherwise, the perp has to climb over the enclosure in his puffy attire. Then he has to reach the circuit breaker box. Why would he even bother to do any of this? BUT, if he did, he was well equipped with a little bite light so he covered that base. I, myself, feel that the killing of the electricity is excessive and unnecessary and was not part of the crime. JMO