Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cassie P]

Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

I've always wondered if the perp/s targeted the wrong home...JMO

Interesting idea. RN not sent by perp but by someone in the home right after the abduction who saw the evidence mentioned in the RN. How many people were in and out of that house the day after the crime?

 

[Sadi]

FBI searches home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house​

(NewsNation) — FBI agents were seen Thursday investigating the home directly west of Nancy Guthrie’s house as the search for the missing mother of “Today” show anchor Savannah Guthrie continued.

Agents were seen in the garage and driveway area speaking with several neighbors.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5770760-fbi-searches-home-west-of-nancy-guthries-house/

I just watched Brian Entin’s update from yesterday and it was really interesting. He talked to one of the neighbors and the neighbor didn’t share all of the details about the conversation with the FBI, only said it was something along the lines of questions that were previously asked. He also said FBI went into some of the neighbors homes, but not all of them. I wonder what they were looking for?

 

[Napoli]

Sooooo......Could the ransom note(s) be from someone, an insider, who was in the house investigating the abduction and knew details of the crime scene? Wouldn't you send a ransom request soon after the kidnapping? Why wait days?

I've always wondered if the perp/s targeted the wrong home...JMO

They didnt wait DAYS! Nancy was kidnapped during the early morning hours of Sunday February 1. jmo

BBM The first ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case were received by local Tucson, Arizona, media outlets, including KOLD and KGUN, on the evening of Monday, February 2, 2026. These initial notes demanded millions in Bitcoin and set deadlines for Thursday, February 5, and Monday, February 9

 

[Cassie P]

Bbm

I agree with the bolded.

The video of two LE walking back to their car via the driveway of NG’s neighbor’s house shows the house number on the mailbox of the neighbor, and it is the neighbor to the west (a bit southwest on her street, to be more precise).



NG’s late husband was a mining engineer.

So she would have some gems?

 

[LakeRat55]

While I do not have a complete understanding of how the pacemaker sniffer functions, doesn’t it pickup ALL pacemakers in a given area? There are many, many people with pacemakers these days (not just the elderly).
It would see that if a helicopter flew over a housing development it would pickup many, many signals. Making it difficult to evaluate all of the residents in the neighborhood.
In my opinion the sniffer would be more effective when utilized in an area where a body may lie in the desert, park, open lots etc.

My opinion only

The pacemaker 'talks' to the phone app using bluetooth. Bluetooth is very low power and generally travels only a short distance. Think similar to a Fitbit watch communicating to an iphone. There would be many, many bluetooth signals in a 1000 foot radius in a residential or urban area. However, each bluetooth device has a unique MAC address. The sniffer would receive many bluetooth signals, but would be searching for NG's pacemaker's specific MAC address. If they get close enough, identifying it is not a problem.

 

[windrower]

So she would have some gems?

In my current thoughts about her disappearance, whether she had gems or not is immaterial, because I think she was targeted, not any of her possessions.

 

[pitbull]

They didnt wait DAYS! Nancy was kidnapped during the early morning hours of Sunday February 1. jmo

BBM The first ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case were received by local Tucson, Arizona, media outlets, including KOLD and KGUN, on the evening of Monday, February 2, 2026. These initial notes demanded millions in Bitcoin and set deadlines for Thursday, February 5, and Monday, February 9

My bad....I actually meant soon thereafter. It's more a day and a half, if we are to believe the camera time stamps...apologies.

 

[Cassie P]

In my current thoughts about her disappearance, whether she had gems or not is immaterial, because I think she was targeted, not any of her possessions.

Yes it is not looking like a simple robbery.

Sometimes when investigations are stalled or hit a brick wall, you go back and look at the basics again. To make sure you haven't missed anything.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

So she would have some gems?

I think that would be stretch.
A mining engineer wouldn’t necessarily work in a gem mine and wouldn’t necessarily have an interest in collecting gems.

 

[Data Sleuth]

The pacemaker 'talks' to the phone app using bluetooth. Bluetooth is very low power and generally travels only a short distance. Think similar to a Fitbit watch communicating to an iphone. There would be many, many bluetooth signals in a 1000 foot radius in a residential or urban area. However, each bluetooth device has a unique MAC address. The sniffer would receive many bluetooth signals, but would be searching for NG's pacemaker's specific MAC address. If they get close enough, identifying it is not a problem.

Thank you! The info you provided is great and gives me a better understanding of the process.

 

[Napoli]

I feel like with it only being a month into this crime and LE no longer utilizing the free national/worldwide media platform to keep this case persistently in the public eye, they probably have a good idea of what happened and likely even who did it. When law enforcement begins to persuade media to leave it likely means they only have to fine tune the evidence at this point.

If you really think about it, with a general public that is still on the edge of their seats (and are hungry to help), there is no way a combined law enforcement effort of this size and scope is suddenly going to stop giving press conferences and not capitalize on the free and far reaching publicity that could help them solve this case. That is, unless they no longer need to.

JMO

We are at war, it would appear. The Guthrie case cannot compete with that. It was a headline grabber for sure and certainly intrigued the masses. It was not a 24/7 national concern worthy, all absorbing subject that they made it out to be. Once the ransom notes, Instagram responses by the family and the high speed , cinematic raids were done, the networks were left with 25 portly, "talking- expert" heads who dished the dirt and said virtually nothing.

I dont think LE has much. Or not enough to create news above what the pod casters are trying to breathe life into. SG going to NBC yesterday was not news, imo. It was a hat tip to her grief, perhaps but it told us nothing. She will go back but doesnt know when. Hardly, definitive. That's all. Not sure we even needed to know that. basically a filler story to give viewers a little piece of something to chew on and a respite from Iran. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

The power had to be on in order for the camera to get its footage to the cloud

I still think the power being cut can't be ruled out yet because a battery-powered Google Nest camera like the one that was located by Nancy's door will continue to record motion-activated events even if the electricity/Wi-Fi goes out.
It saves any motion-activated clips to local memory for up to one hour.

Why did the Sheriff say that he didn't believe that they would be able to recover anymore footage after the door nest camera footage was released? He mentioned previously that Nancy had "multiple cameras". Why hasn't there been any other video clips of Lantana man shared besides the one from the battery operated door nest camera?
Why was the door camera the only camera (that we know of) taken by the Perp?

 

[Bruxer]

I will post this with the caveat that it is JMO.

What if someone who was due to make a lot of money off of Nancy selling her home got angry after it was taken off the market? I am NOT speaking about family. We talked about home inspectors gaining access but what about real estate agents? They (and anyone they may have been in contact with) would have presumably had access for a while?

 

[shonyakay]

I think he did leave the power on. My reasoning is that the Sheriff said in an early interview that 'all the lights were on in the common areas'. Why would someone turn the power off and then turn it on again when they leave? I'll try and find my earlier post with the link to the sheriffs interview.

Please provide a link. IF the Sheriff really stated that lights were on in the house then I would discount the theory that the power was shut off.

 

[Napoli]

My bad....I actually meant soon thereafter. It's more a day and a half, if we are to believe the camera time stamps...apologies.

Oh Gosh! Don't apologize. I can see your confusion it if the ransom notes were sent days later and it would be more of an after thought. They were sent approximately 36 hours later, so proximate to the kidnapping. Does that change anything for you?

 

[teeandcee]

I admit I’m shocked this hasn’t been solved, especially with the video. I thought it’d be a week tops then either she’d be returned or her body found.

I feel so bad for the family. I hope they get some kind of resolution rather than this living hell of not knowing.

 

[stmichael]

I still think the power being cut can't be ruled out yet because a battery-powered Google Nest camera like the one that was located by Nancy's door will continue to record motion-activated events even if the electricity/Wi-Fi goes out.
It saves any motion-activated clips to local memory for up to one hour.

Why did the Sheriff say that he didn't believe that they would be able to recover anymore footage after the door nest camera footage was released? He mentioned previously that Nancy had "multiple cameras". Why hasn't there been any other video clips of Lantana man shared besides the one from the battery operated door nest camera?
Why was the door camera the only camera (that we know of) taken by the Perp?

Why did he even approach the enclosed brick vestibule? has been something I have mulled over.


There was no sign of forced entry including a welded steel security door and the side glass windows were intact (a common point to breach to reach in and flip open the deadbolt).

The vestibule was dark and provided cover, but he seemed surprised by the doorbell camera. It was however tucked away and the scope of the camera was narrowed by the structure of the brick vestibule and far enough from the side yard approach that it didn't even need to be disabled as a general casing of the home. It was a hard point with a steel security door and multiple locksets and a deadbolt.

A couple possibilities remain as to why he approached there.

1. He used the front door as a ruse to get NG to the door and then intimidated and coerced her into opening the door as he was clearly displaying what looked to be a firearm. If he had some info on her or her family he could have yelled a ruse convincing enough to get a startled elderly woman to come to the door then say he'll shoot her through the door/window and she panicked and let him in. Stranger things have happened.

2. Another possibility is he had an accomplice already on the inside and they removed NG through the front door into the driveway (trail of blood right at door swing clearance) to a waiting vehicle (which would be obscured from the street - see pics related. Police truck at walkway is obscured from street view in daylight). In that case, however, I would expect his approach to be more purpose-driven, quick and non-hesitant. The way he went about it doesn't translate into that scenario but maybe he's just weird like that. That would indicate a different primary point of entry and I am curious to see what evidence if any of that the investigation has. I would also be interested to know the camera blind spots on the property in this context.

 

[Sadi]

This article mentions one piece of evidence was taken from FBI’s visit yesterday. It doesn’t include from exactly where or what it is. Hopefully I copied the link correctly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029737806147506611

 

[Former Reporter]

This is a really good point. From my understanding, police can bug a residence or vehicle if a judge approves it in a warrant, but that may depend on state laws (?).

Another interesting note on this; IIRC, in his interview, the lawyer for LD stated the warrants were still sealed and even he (the lawyer) hasn’t seen them. I’m curious if maybe they did get a warrant to bug their property and that’s why the warrants are still under seal.

JMO

I would bet that is the case. If the warrants were unsealed and they are employing covert tactics, the POIs would know. If I am remembering correctly from the numerous books I've read about the Scott and Laci Peterson case, they had trackers and bugs on Scott almost immediately.

 

[maskedwoman]

Has any one thought about the possibility that Latana Man is someone with a show business background?

Some here have felt there was something odd and off about his appearance and clothing choices. It is like he is wearing a Walmart crime costume. Presenting as what he thought a criminal should look like. Maybe something seen from TV or movies.

Do we see what looks like alteration to his appearance with make up or something else under the masks? Someone familiar with stage make up perhaps?

All the masks and layers of clothing. Could be hiding other costumes and disguises? Peel off an outer layer and he looks like a maintenance man or delivery guy. Peel off another layer and we are looking at nurse, doctor, police uniform.

And we know that SG is in show business and NG was involved with some of her TV specials. There had to be Hollywood production types involved?

IDK, just brainstorming and throwing out an idea. Please feel free to tear it apart.

I do think his gear looks a bit stereotypical, as in, tv shows and bad movies may have informed their gear choices. But I wouldn't go so far as thinking this points to them having a show business background.

I'm willing to be convinced, but I'm not sure I could agree that SG is in show business. And I would not assume they hired local crew. There seems to be a pecking order with these things. When GMA came to Nashville, I believe they brought their own crew. The local news people weren't even allowed to catch them on film. A former GMA weather person was caught on someone's cell phone telling a local camera man "remember the rules" because he thought they accidentally caught him on camera moving the shot from one spot to another. It's an old clip and I couldn't find it just now, so I'll end with MOOooo