Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #9 *Arrest*

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  • #641
Sorry if this was posted already.

Earlier today they updated that there is nothing new to update.

[FONT=&quot]No one has been charged with Woods’ death as of Tuesday afternoon and officials are still waiting on the autopsy report.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Maj. Chris Thomas with the Onslow County Sheriff’s office said it’s still too early to say when information will be released.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“We have nothing new to give out,” Thomas said. “When we have anything to release, we will release it.”[/FONT]

http://www.jdnews.com/news/20171212/officials-no-new-updates-on-mariah-woods-case
 
  • #642
Officials confirmed there is no new information to release surrounding three-year-old Mariah Wood’s case Tuesday.

About a week out from the memorial service honoring Mariah Woods in Swansboro, officials are still waiting on more information to update the case.
...
Maj. Chris Thomas with the Onslow County Sheriff’s office said it’s still too early to say when information will be released.

“We have nothing new to give out,” Thomas said. “When we have anything to release, we will release it.”

http://www.jdnews.com/news/20171212/officials-no-new-updates-on-mariah-woods-case

Argh! Waiting is the worst part of following cases like this. IMO though, there will be upgraded charges for Earl Kimrey. As far as mom goes it's a tough call; if she was an eyewitness to what happened the night Mariah disappeared she may skate in order to testify against Kimrey.

While I don't think mom is completely innocent the statistics say it was live-in b/f Earl who actually murdered Mariah. But if her hands are dirty then I expect to see charges against her - IMO LE knows that people beyond the Onslow County community are closely watching this case. IOW they are being closely scrutinized. MOO.
 
  • #643
http://www.jdnews.com/news/20171212/officials-no-new-updates-on-mariah-woods-case

Argh! Waiting is the worst part of following cases like this. IMO though, there will be upgraded charges for Earl Kimrey. As far as mom goes it's a tough call; if she was an eyewitness to what happened the night Mariah disappeared she may skate in order to testify against Kimrey.

While I don't think mom is completely innocent the statistics say it was live-in b/f Earl who actually murdered Mariah. But if her hands are dirty then I expect to see charges against her - IMO LE knows that people beyond the Onslow County community are closely watching this case. IOW they are being closely scrutinized. MOO.

Just thinking out loud here and playing devil's advocate a bit. What happens if the autopsy comes back and says something like undetermined or the cause is in fact something natural? Perhaps she died of anaphylaxis (not saying she did, just an example) or some other unknown medical condition, and EK panicked and removed her? How does that effect the current charge, as it is written that he moved her after she died "unnaturally"?

Again, ALL JMO and thoughts!
 
  • #644
What I found interested was the following:

In a news release sent Saturday evening, an FBI spokeswoman said Mariah’s remains had been found in Shelter Creek along Shaw Highway in Pender County, North Carolina.


Officials did not say what led them to arrest Kimrey, or what evidence suggested that Mariah was no longer alive.

[...]

Mariah was presumed dead based on evidence gathered throughout the weeklong investigation into her disappearance, according to the Onslow County Sheriff’s Office. At a news conference on Saturday, FBI officials called the search for Mariah “a homicide investigation.”

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article187931874.html

to me this suggests they strongly felt she was not just dead, but a murder victim. Even before or as they found little one's body. They may not be able to proceed to charge anyone with that murder until autopsy report but I think they have a much better idea what happened then they have stated and are putting all the little duckies in a row.
 
  • #645
Is it possible that she has 'signed' herself in to a psych treatment facility? I'm hoping one of the legal minds here could answer this for me. If KW is in treatment at this type of facility - they (Sheriff or law) cannot legally communicate with her?? Would she be somehow protected while there? TIA


Talisman, I'm going to reply to your post again because I realize I was not clear about a few things in my earlier post about psychiatric treatment protocol.

I think this is a good point you've brought up. If KW has signed herself into a psych facility, ( or been admitted against her will ) she would have complete and total anonymity.

No one who works in a psychiatric setting is ever allowed to reveal any information about a patient. Even whether that person IS a patient at all.

Whenever anyone called our unit asking if so-and-so was a patient, we asked if the caller had a patient code number.

If they didn't, we had a stock phrase we used: "We are not allowed to confirm or deny that the person is a patient on this unit."

So, bottom line, IF KW would be at a psychiatric facility, there would be no way for news media, or anyone else to discover that information from the facility itself.

Her anonymity would be completely protected.

I want to emphasize this is all pure conjecture. We have no information at all that would lead us to believe this is even a remote possibility...



JMO
 
  • #646
Just thinking out loud here and playing devil's advocate a bit. What happens if the autopsy comes back and says something like undetermined or the cause is in fact something natural? Perhaps she died of anaphylaxis (not saying she did, just an example) or some other unknown medical condition, and EK panicked and removed her? How does that effect the current charge, as it is written that he moved her after she died "unnaturally"?

Again, ALL JMO and thoughts!

IMO, the COD may very well end up being "undetermined" due to the time lapse between her disappearance and the discovery of her body. In that case I think LE and the DA will still have a case based on other evidence, so I remain hopeful.

As far as her death being called "unnatural" I don't think it means anything other than the importance of LE stressing that Mariah did not die from a natural cause in order to lay a foundation of violence in the home as defined by N.C. law, and I would include that to mean no anaphalactic shock, heart attack, ketoacidosis, liver or kidney failure, a burst spleen or appendix or anything even remotely related.

IMO "unnatural" as used by LE means Mariah died by the hands of another and the term was used as a precurser for charges yet to come. Right now LE can take their time accumulating evidence but once they bring charges of murder to anyone then the clock starts ticking and they are compelled to present their evidence in a speedy manner. There is no statute of limitation on murder so why would they bring charges before they have all their ducks in a row?

And as far as a "natural" death is concerned IMO the odds are stacked against that being the case. We have some evidence that Earl acted out violently when he was not happy and we have some evidence that there was physical and sexual abuse in the home. Even the neighbors reported frequent fighting being heard in the home. It's unlikely that all the reports are false and all the people making claims are lying.

If I had to guess (so IMOO) I'd say Mariah died from blunt force trauma, perhaps with strangulation also. IMO the odds of SA are high but may or may not be present. I also believe physical abuse had been going on for some time and the mother may or may not have participated and if not may have chosen to say nothing.

All MOO.
 
  • #647
Talisman, I'm going to reply to your post again because I realize I was not clear about a few things in my earlier post about psychiatric treatment protocol.

I think this is a good point you've brought up. If KW has signed herself into a psych facility, ( or been admitted against her will ) she would have complete and total anonymity.

No one who works in a psychiatric setting is ever allowed to reveal any information about a patient. Even whether that person IS a patient at all.

Whenever anyone called our unit asking if so-and-so was a patient, we asked if the caller had a patient code number.

If they didn't, we had a stock phrase we used: "We are not allowed to confirm or deny that the person is a patient on this unit."

So, bottom line, IF KW would be at a psychiatric facility, there would be no way for news media, or anyone else to discover that information from the facility itself.

Her anonymity would be completely protected.

I want to emphasize this is all pure conjecture. We have no information at all that would lead us to believe this is even a remote possibility...



JMO

I don't think she is in a psych unit. I think she is just laying low. I mean, look how we've been discussing her, I can only imagine what the locals have to say is 10x worse.

My principle reason for thinking she isn't locked up right now is the last time she dropped off the radar we speculated that maybe she checked herself in to the hospital but then she turned up at Mariah's public memorial. Another reason I don't think she is in the hospital is because she strikes me as the type who enjoys the attention and more importantly, she can't be without a source for the local news and gossip. She took down her Facebook page but that doesn't mean she didn't make a new one using an anonymous name so she can keep track of what's being said. I know a lot of people who do this, esp shady types, they'll have a profile with a fictitious or silly play on their name (one example that comes to mind is a guy I know named Damian, his Facebook handle is Demo-lition Dame).
 
  • #648
IMO, the COD may very well end up being "undetermined" due to the time lapse between her disappearance and the discovery of her body. In that case I think LE and the DA will still have a case based on other evidence, so I remain hopeful.

As far as her death being called "unnatural" I don't think it means anything other than the importance of LE stressing that Mariah did not die from a natural cause in order to lay a foundation of violence in the home as defined by N.C. law, and I would include that to mean no anaphalactic shock, heart attack, ketoacidosis, liver or kidney failure, a burst spleen or appendix or anything even remotely related.

IMO "unnatural" as used by LE means Mariah died by the hands of another and the term was used as a precurser for charges yet to come. Right now LE can take their time accumulating evidence but once they bring charges of murder to anyone then the clock starts ticking and they are compelled to present their evidence in a speedy manner. There is no statute of limitation on murder so why would they bring charges before they have all their ducks in a row?

And as far as a "natural" death is concerned IMO the odds are stacked against that being the case. We have some evidence that Earl acted out violently when he was not happy and we have some evidence that there was physical and sexual abuse in the home. Even the neighbors reported frequent fighting being heard in the home. It's unlikely that all the reports are false and all the people making claims are lying.

If I had to guess (so IMOO) I'd say Mariah died from blunt force trauma, perhaps with strangulation also. IMO the odds of SA are high but may or may not be present. I also believe physical abuse had been going on for some time and the mother may or may not have participated and if not may have chosen to say nothing.

All MOO.

Just curious, can I ask how you arrived at strangulation?
 
  • #649
I don't think she is in a psych unit. I think she is just laying low. I mean, look how we've been discussing her, I can only imagine what the locals have to say is 10x worse.

My principle reason for thinking she isn't locked up right now is the last time she dropped off the radar we speculated that maybe she checked herself in to the hospital but then she turned up at Mariah's public memorial. Another reason I don't think she is in the hospital is because she strikes me as the type who enjoys the attention and more importantly, she can't be without a source for the local news and gossip. She took down her Facebook page but that doesn't mean she didn't make a new one using an anonymous name so she can keep track of what's being said. I know a lot of people who do this, esp shady types, they'll have a profile with a fictitious or silly play on their name (one example that comes to mind is a guy I know named Damian, his Facebook handle is Demo-lition Dame).
I think people like Kristy, would take down her FB account because she did not want to hear what people are saying about her and not wanting to catch up on what news sites are saying. Ignorance is bliss. I can just pretend this has not happened and I will be fine, as long as I can't see what is going on.
 
  • #650
IMO, the COD may very well end up being "undetermined" due to the time lapse between her disappearance and the discovery of her body. In that case I think LE and the DA will still have a case based on other evidence, so I remain hopeful.

As far as her death being called "unnatural" I don't think it means anything other than the importance of LE stressing that Mariah did not die from a natural cause in order to lay a foundation of violence in the home as defined by N.C. law, and I would include that to mean no anaphalactic shock, heart attack, ketoacidosis, liver or kidney failure, a burst spleen or appendix or anything even remotely related.

IMO "unnatural" as used by LE means Mariah died by the hands of another and the term was used as a precurser for charges yet to come. Right now LE can take their time accumulating evidence but once they bring charges of murder to anyone then the clock starts ticking and they are compelled to present their evidence in a speedy manner. There is no statute of limitation on murder so why would they bring charges before they have all their ducks in a row?

And as far as a "natural" death is concerned IMO the odds are stacked against that being the case. We have some evidence that Earl acted out violently when he was not happy and we have some evidence that there was physical and sexual abuse in the home. Even the neighbors reported frequent fighting being heard in the home. It's unlikely that all the reports are false and all the people making claims are lying.

If I had to guess (so IMOO) I'd say Mariah died from blunt force trauma, perhaps with strangulation also. IMO the odds of SA are high but may or may not be present. I also believe physical abuse had been going on for some time and the mother may or may not have participated and if not may have chosen to say nothing.

All MOO.

Good post! I think (wonder if ) we might find blunt force trauma as being a precursor to death and KW and/or EK tried to medicate her for pain giving her too much. And I think it very well may have gone on at other times, with all of the kids. Only this time someone died.
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  • #651
It seems like this excuse below is more common than I thought:

"He originally tried to blame another child for the baby's severe injuries, claiming a 3-year-old pushed the toddler off the bed."

Yup. Really abhorrent.

Yep. And here’s another case of bio dad trying desperately to protect his child:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article189037514.html

Oh my gosh Doghair. That is horrible. How the hell does she still not have his kid? Shameful. "Well he doesn't know you." But he knows the foster home he was sent to? That's his dad!!

I wonder if he is being penalized for bucking the system.
 
  • #652
I think people like Kristy, would take down her FB account because she did not want to hear what people are saying about her and not wanting to catch up on what news sites are saying. Ignorance is bliss. I can just pretend this has not happened and I will be fine, as long as I can't see what is going on.

I don't know what it looks like if you set your FB to completely private but I have wondered if perhaps that's what she (and others from other cases) do when they start to get sleuthed or worse, all the hate comments on their public posts? It's pretty easy to set your account to private, but I don't know if that makes it completely unsearchable, even with the link?

Would love to know if anyone knows this for certain, not just for this case but for many others!!


Again just thinking out loud!!
 
  • #653
I don't think she is in a psych unit. I think she is just laying low. I mean, look how we've been discussing her, I can only imagine what the locals have to say is 10x worse.

My principle reason for thinking she isn't locked up right now is the last time she dropped off the radar we speculated that maybe she checked herself in to the hospital but then she turned up at Mariah's public memorial. Another reason I don't think she is in the hospital is because she strikes me as the type who enjoys the attention and more importantly, she can't be without a source for the local news and gossip. She took down her Facebook page but that doesn't mean she didn't make a new one using an anonymous name so she can keep track of what's being said. I know a lot of people who do this, esp shady types, they'll have a profile with a fictitious or silly play on their name (one example that comes to mind is a guy I know named Damian, his Facebook handle is Demo-lition Dame).


Good points and actually, I agree with you. I don't think she's in a psych facility either.

I was just addressing a purely hypothetical situation.

However, I think most people would be surprised to find out just how common it is for those on the wrong side of LE to see the 'psych' option as a genuine 'get out of jail free card.'

They think they're the smartest people in the room and that somehow they're going to manage to be able to evade LE, and waltz right out the door at discharge.

The look of genuine shock on their faces when they see LE waiting for them, says it all...



JMO
 
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O/T

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Yes, and good on the people of Alabama who still have a conscience
 
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Am I nuts, or is the forum totally different and rearranged? New colors, different symbols?

How do you thank posts? I don't see any thanks on any posts anymore...?

I don't see the header up top saying 'new posts' etc etc...

Did i do something to my settings or is this for everyones threads now????




ETA: Okay, found the button at button that said 'full site' ---clicked on it and it is back to the old set up....wheewwwww.....:nuts:
 
  • #657
and there was a 2 yo boy in the next town over from me killed just a few days ago by... you guessed it - mom's live - in bf while she was at work. do they do this on purpose as soon as they are alone with the child or can they just not deal with children at all? bf's are not free childcare for crissakes.

https://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Man-arrested-after-SeaTac-toddler-s-death-12414209.php

and of course this one from Saturday - mom's bf kills child trying to make him sleep. http://whdh.com/news/man-kills-girl...lly-beating-him-to-make-him-sleep-police-say/
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"Police told the station that it is unclear if anyone else will face charges in the boy’s death, saying prosecutors have charged mothers in the past for leaving their children with violent boyfriends."[/FONT]

This is my first time commenting so I hope I'm doing this right 😊.

I agree way too many babies are being killed...As I read this case and Sherin's case it all boils down to the fact that they didn't have a responsible adult(s) in their life to protect them. As parents we are here to protect them and guide them. It pains me to hear these stories. These so called parents have failed these babies point blank!!! We can disagree about who, why, when, where but the fact is these babies paid a horrible sentence. Maybe EK was the one to actually caused MW death but KW as her mother should have protected her...she should have protected all her children and she didn't. MOO KW should be charged at least for neglect (but I'm sure LE is working on that)...she didn't do what she was suppose to do as a mother and protect her. All these babies losing their lives hurts my heart. RIP Mariah, Sherin and those before and after that have lost their lives in the hands of those who were suppose to be there for them but failed them.
 
  • #658
Another sleepless night here in the UK. I’ve been trying to find anything of EKs past life. Was he married previously? We know he had a previous girlfriend and a daughter younger than Mariah. I just was wondering, as one does, did he have any older children?

unfortunately due to the fact I’m a UK resident I’m not able to access some sites as I’m not in USA.

Anyone got any info info on his past/loves/children
 
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Am I nuts, or is the forum totally different and rearranged? New colors, different symbols?

How do you thank posts? I don't see any thanks on any posts anymore...?

I don't see the header up top saying 'new posts' etc etc...

Did i do something to my settings or is this for everyones threads now????

Must be you Katy. I logged in just now and everything is the same.
 
  • #660
Am I nuts, or is the forum totally different and rearranged? New colors, different symbols?

How do you thank posts? I don't see any thanks on any posts anymore...?

I don't see the header up top saying 'new posts' etc etc...

Did i do something to my settings or is this for everyones threads now????




ETA: Okay, found the button at button that said 'full site' ---clicked on it and it is back to the old set up....wheewwwww.....:nuts:


I just scrolled to the top and ive got it all up there. Someone said the other day to refresh the page if thanks button does a bunk and it will come back
 
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