NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #12

[darnudes]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Zahra looks like a boy in this photo...wonder if this look was intentional. moo

It is either her passport photo taken in oz , so not long after she recovered from the second bout of cancer. Or else it is a passport photo taken in the US maybe they were attempting to get US passports.

 

[eyes4crime]

It is either her passport photo taken in oz , so not long after she recovered from the second bout of cancer. Or else it is a passport photo taken in the US maybe they were attempting to get US passports.

That's right, probably the effects of the chemo. TY

 

[sweetmop]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Zahra looks like a boy in this photo...wonder if this look was intentional. moo

Yes, she could pass for a boy in that picture. Who knows if that was the intentions or not! It's hard to think like EB, isn't it?... Thank God!!!

I would love to know more about what EB's intentions were about alot of things. Can't wait until LE releases more info, cause I'm sure they know so much more to this sad story than has been told.

 

[darnudes]

The little we've heard about Zahra's biological mother is that she has either not had or not exercised parental rights to Zahra since Zahra was about 8 months old. It's not clear whether the mother has had any contact with her at all since that time. But it's clear that her consent wouldn't have been needed to remove Zahra from Australia. If Zahra had disappeared from Australia without consent from a mother who had contact with her and a right to be consulted about such a move, I'm sure the mother would have raised h*!! through consular channels a long, long time ago. The move was sometime in 2008.

Sorry Pink but that is incorrect. Parental responsibility means those named on the birth certificate, not who has custody or if the bio mum had visitations rights or no visitation. Her consent would have had to have been obtained, the only way around this is the B9 from which is a "waiver of consent" application. In this AB would have had to clearly and honestly state why he was unable to secure consent. The department then checks into these claims to ascertain the veracity of statements made by custodial parent.

The question for me is did he lie on that application?

 

[sweetmop]

Sorry Pink but that is incorrect. Parental responsibility means those named on the birth certificate, not who has custody or if the bio mum had visitations rights or no visitation. Her consent would have had to have been obtained, the only way around this is the B9 from which is a "waiver of consent" application. In this AB would have had to clearly and honestly state why he was unable to secure consent. The department then checks into these claims to ascertain the veracity of statements made by custodial parent.

The question for me is did he lie on that application?

I'd put my money on AB lying.
jmho.

 

[passionflower]

I believe the neighbors also since they have no reason to lie about it. One reason they may have went back to dispose of her is because they knew the area much better and where nobody would see them after dark. Not sure why they would go the house though, maybe something went wrong initially and they needed someplace to think. I sincerely hope they dig deep into this because this smells very bad to me.

THEY WOULD KNOW WHEN GARBAGE PICK UP WOULD BE, DID THEY FORGET ABOUT A HOLIDAY WHICH MIGHT LEAVE AN EXTRA DAY??? sorry my caps were on ........

 

[darnudes]

Additional: The parent applying for a waiver of consent is supposed to use all means to find the whereabouts of the other parent named on the birth certificate such as electoral roles and white pages etc.

 

[Kat]

Thanks for the link!

This is teh saddest picture for me:

Her little chin is so thin and sharp, she looks like she's starved.

Beautiful, beautiful girl.

Those eyes.

They haunt me.

JMHO.

 

[belimom]

Thanks for the link!

This is teh saddest picture for me:

Her little chin is so thin and sharp, she looks like she's starved.

I think it's a more recent picture. I don't recall seeing her hair in the "growing out" stage in other pictures. And she has a much sadder look than before, which I believe reflects the absolute hell of a life she was sadly living...

 

[Choux]

Additional: The parent applying for a waiver of consent is supposed to use all means to find the whereabouts of the other parent named on the birth certificate such as electoral roles and white pages etc.

Had to come out of my usual lurk mode to ask about this.

In the U.S. if a bio parent surrenders all parental rights to a child, the other parent can do whatever without consent from the parent that gave up all rights.

Does Australia have a similar exception?

 

[panthera]

That's right, probably the effects of the chemo. TY

And maybe her hair was just growing back. It also appears she is wearing earrings so I don't think there's anything unusual about the photo. MOO

 

[pinkpuddytat]

The basics

* 35-40mm wide and 45-50mm high
* good quality colour on high quality paper, with no ink or marks on the image
* plain, light-coloured background (e.g. cream or pale blue but not white)
* appropriate brightness and contrast and show your skin tones naturally
* uniform lighting (no shadows across or behind the face), sharp focus and clear
The photograph must:

* show head and top of shoulders close up, so that the face measures between 32mm and 36mm from the bottom of the chin to the crown (ie top of head without hair)
* show your shoulders square on (not looking over shoulder)
* show your face square on (edges of face visible)
* show you looking straight at the camera (not tilted head)
* be taken with a neutral expression and your mouth closed (not laughing or frowning
* show your eyes open and clearly visible, (no hair in eyes).

https://www.passports.gov.au/web/requirements/photos.aspx

In the photo, she rather looks like a young child who's just been instructed in this set of requirements and the importance of following them all.

Keep your shoulder's square on!
Look STRAIGHT at the camera!
Don't tilt your head!
Close your mouth -- you must have a "neutral" expression!
Don't smile or laugh!
Don't frown!
Don't blink!
Now hold very still while I take the photo!

Little wonder she looks stiff and nervous and miserable!

 

[Wise Old Owl]

And remember when we found this pic - there was one right before it that was full length - she was sitting in front of what I thought was the refrigerator with a sheet draped over it. Certainly not a 'professional' setting. And IIRC there was one after this that was dad in front of the same sheet.

 

[darnudes]

Had to come out of my usual lurk mode to ask about this.

In the U.S. if a bio parent surrenders all parental rights to a child, the other parent can do whatever without consent from the parent that gave up all rights.

Does Australia have a similar exception?

No. However,

Their parental responsibility can only be removed by an Australian court. Where a father is not named on a child’s birth certificate but has formally acknowledged paternity by signing a document to this effect, he has parental responsibility for the purposes of the Australian Passports Act 2005 and is required to provide consent prior to issue of a passport.

As well as the parents named on the child’s full birth certificate, a person may have parental responsibility through Australian court orders covering residence, contact, access rights, guardianship, custody, or other specific issues relating to the child. Institutions such as a government welfare agency may also have parental responsibility under an Australian court order.

What happens if you cannot get consent?

If the consent of anyone with parental responsibility for the child cannot be obtained after all avenues have been exhausted and there is no court order permitting the child to travel internationally, a written request for ‘special circumstances’ under section 11(2) of the Australian Passports Act 2005 may be made. An Approved Senior Officer, an officer delegated by the Minister for Foreign Affairs, will consider the statement in support of the request to determine if a passport may be issued without the other person’s consent.
In such cases, the passport application must be accompanied by:

* a statement made on Form B8 or B9 in which you state why the necessary consent has not and cannot be obtained, and explain the special circumstances relevant to the application and
* the child’s original full birth certificate and
* the originals of all court orders affecting parental responsibility for the child.

https://www.passports.gov.au/Web/BrochuresWebPages/BrochureChildenParentalConsent.aspx

 

[westsidefox64]

FYI Im having alot of trouble with my server today so going this way instead of direct quote.
The pic which I believe to be for a passport would look like a boys except for the earings...
Does a mother not having anything to do with a child for over 6 years have a say so in where thier child goes??? guess thats a ? for the Aussie group. I would assume there to be a statute of limitations there as here?? If the mother was really out of her life since 8 months that cant be a hard thing to get past ( no more than we have heard from bio mom in all this I dont think she gives a dam,.; one way or the other. Did grandma sign that paper hopng son and granddaugher would have a better life in the USA??? not so far fetched an idea
I always know what day my trash is being picked up ...usually 1 or 2 days a week cant -even for the simplist mind be hard to figure out.. how hard is it to stick a prostetic in the trash a couple weeks before you report someone missing???

I dont even want to go any farther cause it scares me what I consider as my NORMAL MIND can come up with???

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Bio-mom might have given up all rights early on - we simply don't know. If she did that could explain why we aren't hearing all that much from her now.

JMO

 

[bellyup]

Question of the Day

How did AB attain parental consent from the biological mother for Zahra's passport?[/B
Seems to me that AB did not obtain consent from Zahra's mother and probably applied for a "waiver of consent". I wonder if he gave correct and honest information on that application. There are massive fines for supplying false information.

I highly suspect that biomom doesn't have parental rights. Someone from OZ posted here that it would be extremely rare for a biomom to NOT have custody unless there was good reason (in which case her rights may have been revoked.)

 

[bellyup]

I hadn't even thought about their " business " of dealing drugs. You're probably right with those thoughts.
But EB didn't show much care to those poor kitties by leaving them there to fend for themselves. Guess that was another way for her to hurt little Zahra too. What a witch!

I think the kittens were given to a family member or friend ... again from MS or FB photos. I recall seeing one with Zhara holding a kitten and a caption like "Zhara visiting" or something like that. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[Pebbles1968]

looks almost like her glands are swollen in this pic. I wonder if the cancer had returned and invaded the lymph nodes..Could be just because she is so thin though.. Bless her heart.
Where are you Angel girl! I wish you could send us a sign!

 

[darnudes]

It's hard to know what happened but if we take some things at face value, such as the bio mum not knowing they were in America (if this is a true statement) she couldn't have signed a consent form. AB would have then had to complete the B9 form. On the waiver application(B9 form) you are asked in there are any Court orders affecting rights in relation to the child and you have to supply documentation supporting those orders.

5 Court orders affecting rights in relation to the child

a Are there any court orders in existence which affect another
person’s rights in relation to the child?
(e.g. rights of residency, custody, access, contact, guardianship, day-today
or long term care or specific issues orders.)
This includes court orders made in favour of yourself, another person
(e.g. a guardian) or an institution (e.g. Government welfare service,
adoption agency), parenting plans and family violence orders.
the application
b Is there any pending court action or proceedings which could affect
another person’s parental rights and responsibilities for the child?

https://www.passports.gov.au/Web/Newppt/B9_2005.pdf

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AB may well have had court orders negating the parental responsibilities of birth mother (think child abuse or child neglect - unlikely) which would have supported his application but I don't think so.

Think about this - what if the birth mothers consent was forged?