NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father) #2

[Rosiebones]

That was the direction he was last seen to be headed. But, I thought it had been searched thoroughly.

 

[dkaras]

Body Discovered In Nebraska May Be Missing Moorcroft Man Chance Englebert | Cowboy State Daily

Body Discovered In Nebraska May Be Missing Moorcroft Man Chance Englebert

A body found Saturday morning near rural Gering, Nebraska, may be that of Moorcroft man Chance Englebert, who has been missing for more than six years,…

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[Donswife48]

I always wondered if his disappearance was accidental or on purpose. I live in Nebraska, know a little bit about the area. Enough to know that someone wouldn't intentionally walk there, at least at night. If they are digging for a body, it had to be intentional, but the body wasn't placed there that night. Whoever it is, if it isn't Chance Englebert, then I hope another family can find some peace in bringing their loved one home.

 

[mlhenn]

Human remains discovered near Scotts Bluff National Monument

Law enforcement officials are investigating after human skeletal remains were found Friday on the north side of the Scotts Bluff National Monument property near Gering.

www.1011now.com

 

[Songbird1973]

I always wondered if his disappearance was accidental or on purpose. I live in Nebraska, know a little bit about the area. Enough to know that someone wouldn't intentionally walk there, at least at night. If they are digging for a body, it had to be intentional, but the body wasn't placed there that night. Whoever it is, if it isn't Chance Englebert, then I hope another family can find some peace in bringing their loved one home.

I'm from Nebraska too. And I agree that the area Chance was in isn't a place someone who's thinking straight should be walking at night. The problem is, Chance wasn't thinking straight. He may have had some alcohol while golfing. He didn't like a comment made to him, so he had his wife drive 30 miles to come get him from the game. On the way back to town, he got upset at his wife. When they arrived at her grandparents, he walked off in a fit of temper just before dark, headed for a part of WY so deserted, some people would hesitate to DRIVE through it at night. Then it felt reasonable to ask a friend to drive 3.5 hrs to come get him. When that didn't work he appears to have walked on in an unreasonable state of mind, passing by an open truck stop without stopping, even though a severe downpour had started.

 

[justtrish]

The family posted yesterday on their FB page dedicated to finding Chance

Help Find Chance Englebert

Early this morning, our family was contacted by Law Enforcement officials in Scottsbluff County. We were informed of a discovery that may be related to the disappearance of Chance. At this critical...

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Early this morning, our family was contacted by Law Enforcement officials in Scottsbluff County. We were informed of a discovery that may be related to the disappearance of Chance.

At this critical juncture, we need to emphasize that there is no positive identification or additional evidence to confirm that the individual is Chance.

We ask the entire "Chance's Army" community for your patience and respect during this time. Please allow Law Enforcement to conduct their thorough investigation. Our family is waiting for official confirmation and further information from the authorities.

We ask for your prayers as we wait, hoping that this discovery brings closure, whether for our family or for another family searching for their missing loved one.

Englebert Family

 

[Kittybunny]

I'm from Nebraska too. And I agree that the area Chance was in isn't a place someone who's thinking straight should be walking at night. The problem is, Chance wasn't thinking straight. He may have had some alcohol while golfing. He didn't like a comment made to him, so he had his wife drive 30 miles to come get him from the game. On the way back to town, he got upset at his wife. When they arrived at her grandparents, he walked off in a fit of temper just before dark, headed for a part of WY so deserted, some people would hesitate to DRIVE through it at night. Then it felt reasonable to ask a friend to drive 3.5 hrs to come get him. When that didn't work he appears to have walked on in an unreasonable state of mind, passing by an open truck stop without stopping, even though a severe downpour had started.

Good point. I think it is likely that if this is Chance, this will turn out to be death by misadventure. We know how often bodies turn up in searches long after the areas have been searched “thoroughly”, to no fault (usually) of searchers. Bodies are hard to find.

Although, I admit I do still cast a side eye to his wife and her family. There was some…odd behavior afterwards.

Regardless, this is a case I have followed from the start, and I pray for his family’s sake that this is him, so they can start moving towards some measure of closure.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Good point. I think it is likely that if this is Chance, this will turn out to be death by misadventure. We know how often bodies turn up in searches long after the areas have been searched “thoroughly”, to no fault (usually) of searchers. Bodies are hard to find.

Although, I admit I do still cast a side eye to his wife and her family. There was some…odd behavior afterwards.

Regardless, this is a case I have followed from the start, and I pray for his family’s sake that this is him, so they can start moving towards some measure of closure.

I think you might be right. As I see it, looking back, this type of case gets minimal notice. But Chance's story just took on so much emotion.

"I think it is likely that if this is Chance, this will turn out to be death by misadventure."

 

[Quill]

I'm from Nebraska too. And I agree that the area Chance was in isn't a place someone who's thinking straight should be walking at night. The problem is, Chance wasn't thinking straight. He may have had some alcohol while golfing. He didn't like a comment made to him, so he had his wife drive 30 miles to come get him from the game. On the way back to town, he got upset at his wife. When they arrived at her grandparents, he walked off in a fit of temper just before dark, headed for a part of WY so deserted, some people would hesitate to DRIVE through it at night. Then it felt reasonable to ask a friend to drive 3.5 hrs to come get him. When that didn't work he appears to have walked on in an unreasonable state of mind, passing by an open truck stop without stopping, even though a severe downpour had started.

I'm going to hazard a guess that there was a little more said to him than just a comment he didn't like. I think there is way more to this than just a comment that rubbed him the wrong way. There is also the convenience store clerk's account who remembered selling him tobacco. That clerk said that he told him he had an argument with his wife and needed to take a walk to cool off, but that he was heading back now. He doesn't sound like he was so intoxicated, IMO, that he would be so oblivious to take dangerous and precarious walk. But I guess we will hopefully soon have a least a part of an answer to what happened to him. The rest of what that clerk had to say can be found in the link.

New Leads In The Disappearance Of Moorcroft, Wyoming, Man Missing Now For 5 Years

It’s been nearly five years since Chance Englebert vanished during a holiday visit to see his in-laws in Nebraska. As his family gets ready to mark the…

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[Quill]

Body Discovered In Nebraska May Be Missing Moorcroft Man Chance Englebert

A body found Saturday morning near rural Gering, Nebraska, may be that of Moorcroft man Chance Englebert, who has been missing for more than six years,…

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"Couch further said that law enforcement officials were seen with shovels at the site in what he believes has been characterized as a crime scene."

 

[MorningDove]

Body Discovered In Nebraska May Be Missing Moorcroft Man Chance Englebert

A body found Saturday morning near rural Gering, Nebraska, may be that of Moorcroft man Chance Englebert, who has been missing for more than six years,…

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I can't seem to focus in on the area, are they on a cliff/bluff peak? Looks like a deceivingly high area? Anyone know the area and the terrain?

 

[Teche]

Was the body found in the open or partially buried?

 

[rosesfromangels]

Was the body found in the open or partially buried?

I’m having a hard time understanding. All of the details here, but in the article, it does suggest it is a crime scene. I am really sadden by this. I was hoping for a miracle. Chance just seem to be an absolutely exceptional young man.

Amateur opinion and speculation only.

 

[Rosiebones]

It seems that he would have to have been followed up there and then killed if it is a crime scene, because who would have the strength to carry a body up there to hide it. I am leaning toward an unfortunate accident.

 

[Quill]

Was the body found in the open or partially buried?

I have the same question. The quotes in the article are implying he may have at least been partially buried, but I am cautious about that at the moment until we know more.

 

[Songbird1973]

I’m having a hard time understanding. All of the details here, but in the article, it does suggest it is a crime scene. I am really sadden by this. I was hoping for a miracle. Chance just seem to be an absolutely exceptional young man.

Amateur opinion and speculation only.

Seems like the discovery of most skeletal remains would be treated as a "crime scene" until proven otherwise.

 

[GraceG]

Seems like the discovery of most skeletal remains would be treated as a "crime scene" until proven otherwise.

Indeed. Recovery scenes ARE treated as a crime scene and managed according to the appropriate forensic principles and procedures that provide for the documentation and security of evidence and maintenance of the chain of custody The reason? Yes, many times the death is accidental or natural cause but in treating it as a crime scene, investigators can maintain evidence as the process of recovery is unavoidably destructive. Aircraft accidents I worked were always treated as "crime scenes", taped off, protected from the public. My team were all credentialed (federal agent LE badge) so we could move freely in and outside the tape (usually the State Highway Patrol was the initial response unit - the way they'd document the scene was incredible - I was alway beyond impressed with the detail they'd gather before we arrived).