NE Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged w/ soliciting prostitution in Florida spa, Feb 2019 *CLEARED*

  • #81
I read a fiction book by Fern Michael’s awhile ago. She has the Sisterhood books where the women are super wealthy and they go exact revenge on criminals of various kinds.

I do not remember the title. She has many many books.

The plot of the book I read is this story, almost identical. Seemed kind of fantastical when I read. Unreal
 
  • #82
I accept what you all are saying. From a mans perspective I think many men would envy a man that could be paid for having sex. More so if he could choose his own clients. I cant see why this couldn't be true for some women. jmo

Most men being paid for sex, are usually teens, not gay, doing it for money, because they were kicked out of their homes or trafficked. They are being paid for sex by men. Man on boy sex.

It is extremely heartbreaking. Las Vegas is full of young men who were kicked out of Hilldale, Arizona, Colorado City, UT, they have zero education, zero job skills, no family. They are called "The Lost Boys".

The lost boys, thrown out of US sect so that older men can marry more wives

Sorry for off topic, just clarifying what male prostitutes really do.
 
  • #83
None of these examples convince me that many men wouldn't love this kind of work if they could get it.
 
  • #84
  • #85
None of these examples convince me that many men wouldn't love this kind of work if they could get it.

MOO: Many people wonder why male sex offenders receive harsher punishment, than female perpetrators, here it is ^^^

For equivalencies sake, these men in question would be shipped off to a foreign land, where they lose all personal liberties, have their passports taken, enslaved, and have to relinquish all proceeds. All the while getting no personal enjoyment while servicing anyone that walks in the door.

Because this story is about the reality of human trafficking and sex trade. (Good lord why have I bothered?

(Edit to add MOO and change of placement of comment, to the opening)
 
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  • #86
I accept what you all are saying. From a mans perspective I think many men would envy a man that could be paid for having sex. More so if he could choose his own clients. I cant see why this couldn't be true for some women. jmo

Warning graphic language below:

Sex workers do not choose their own clients. And the majority of male sex workers are paid to have sex with other men. There is nothing glamorous about it. And many johns go to sex workers because the acts they want to engage in their partners won't. Would you really envy a man who licks butt holes all day? Or a man who is demanded to lay on his back on a bed with his head off the edge so that he can be fully deep throated even while horribly gagging? Do you think any man or woman happily signs up to do that work?

Edited to remove a redundant word
 
  • #87
The Pats owner, through a spokesperson, "categorically den[ied]" that he "engaged in any illegal activity," while law enforcement claimed it has video of Kraft engaging in acts multiple times.

NFL confirms possible Robert Kraft suspension, fine could be coming based on outcome of legal process

The NFL confirmed as much on Monday with a statement about how the Personal Conduct Policy applies to owners:

"Our Personal Conduct Policy applies equally to everyone in the NFL. We will handle this allegation in the same way we would handle any issue under the Policy," the league said in a statement. "We are seeking a full understanding of the facts, while ensuring we do not interfere with an ongoing law enforcement investigation. We will take appropriate action as warranted based on the facts."
 
  • #88
My point is that it is possible some men & some woman freely enjoy their work. My original post was in response (imo) to the many posts that implied this was impossible.
 
  • #89
I think they only freely enjoy their work in movies, IMO. Some of us have been in a position to work with sex workers in a therapeutic construct and deep down not one of them I have came into contact with it truly enjoyed it. And in every case, doing the work affected their view of self and others negatively.
 
  • #90
Trafficked victims love their “work”?! :::Facepalm:::

Consider this: there are countless posters here on the forums who are righteously outraged and heartbroken over cases like JC and SLP. You know kidnapping victims.

The victims in the case of RK are victims just like these two. They were kidnapped. They were abused. They were used. They derived no enjoyment from their abuse. NONE. Just. WOW.
 
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  • #91
Tom Brady and Robert Kraft Hug It Out Amid Prostitution Case

Tom Brady and Gisele are standing by Robert Kraft in the wake of his prostitution scandal -- with Tom hugging his boss Monday morning after flying with him on a private jet from L.A. to Boston.

Tom, Gisele and Robert were all spotted getting off the same private jet at an airport in Boston early Monday ... all of the celebrity passengers smiling after the 5 to 6-hour flight.

In fact, Tom and Robert were seen talking on the tarmac -- with Tom eventually bringing his Patriots boss in for a big hug.

Kraft had been in Los Angeles for a pre-Oscars bash over the weekend. Tom and Gisele had been hanging out in L.A. after their family vacation in Costa Rica. Clearly they all felt it was better to fly back to Boston on the same plane.
 
  • #92
Dont feed the..
 
  • #93
From the press conference -
There hasn't been any human trafficking charges in this case so far. There's a high burden of proof. The women need to speak up to get their records expunged and they could receive a T visa specifically designed for trafficking victims.

All have been publicly named. It's rumor that there are bigger fish.

Kraft won't get special treatment in regard to charges. He's being charged with two separate counts. He has received a summons. He doesn't have to make a court appearance, his attorney can appear.

More about T Nonimmigrant Status
Victims of Human Trafficking: T Nonimmigrant Status
 
  • #94
Tom Brady and Robert Kraft Hug It Out Amid Prostitution Case

Tom Brady and Gisele are standing by Robert Kraft in the wake of his prostitution scandal -- with Tom hugging his boss Monday morning after flying with him on a private jet from L.A. to Boston.

Tom, Gisele and Robert were all spotted getting off the same private jet at an airport in Boston early Monday ... all of the celebrity passengers smiling after the 5 to 6-hour flight.

In fact, Tom and Robert were seen talking on the tarmac -- with Tom eventually bringing his Patriots boss in for a big hug.

Kraft had been in Los Angeles for a pre-Oscars bash over the weekend. Tom and Gisele had been hanging out in L.A. after their family vacation in Costa Rica. Clearly they all felt it was better to fly back to Boston on the same plane.
this is really bad optics for Brady, IMHO (although I already wasn't a fan)
 
  • #95
Patriots' Kraft officially charged with solicitation

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft has been officially charged with first degree solicitation of a prostitute in Florida on Monday.

His scheduled court date is April 24. Kraft does not need to appear; his lawyer can appear for him.

Police said they secretly planted undercover cameras in targeted massage parlors and recorded the interactions between men and the female employees.

The individuals named as having solicited prostitutes could be facing either a first- or second-degree misdemeanor for each count. A second-degree charge carries up to a 60-day jail sentence and a $500 fine; a first-degree charge carries up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Earlier Monday, the NFL said it will handle Kraft's case as it would any other issue under the league's conduct policy.
 
  • #96
As a huge Patriot fan I'm very disappointed with Kraft. My first thought as many others was "oh well" but the more I thought about it the more disgusted I got with him and myself for thinking that. It is not ok to turn a blind eye and make excuses for their behavior. So many girls are brought to the US under false promises. They become slaves. How many cases do we have that we are following of missing girls. We have found many being advertised on the internet. Minors or very young girls being lured away from their homes by boyfriends, older men, other girls, who promise a life of glamour. We all know the stories yet we don't want to put the blame on those responsible. Supply and demand. As long as the girls are wanted some sleaze bad will find them. Arrest them all and embarrass them all.
 
  • #97
Authorities: Kraft visited parlor on day of AFC Championship

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft visited a Florida massage parlor for sex acts on the morning of the AFC Championship Game, which he attended in Kansas City later that day. It was his second visit to the parlor in less than 24 hours. Kraft arrived at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in a chauffeured 2015 blue Bentley at 11 a.m. on January 20.

He was videotaped receiving oral and manual sex from a woman at the spa in Jupiter.

He reportedly gave her a $100 bill and another bill.
 
  • #98
Tom Brady and Robert Kraft Hug It Out Amid Prostitution Case

Tom Brady and Gisele are standing by Robert Kraft in the wake of his prostitution scandal -- with Tom hugging his boss Monday morning after flying with him on a private jet from L.A. to Boston.

Tom, Gisele and Robert were all spotted getting off the same private jet at an airport in Boston early Monday ... all of the celebrity passengers smiling after the 5 to 6-hour flight.

In fact, Tom and Robert were seen talking on the tarmac -- with Tom eventually bringing his Patriots boss in for a big hug.

Kraft had been in Los Angeles for a pre-Oscars bash over the weekend. Tom and Gisele had been hanging out in L.A. after their family vacation in Costa Rica. Clearly they all felt it was better to fly back to Boston on the same plane.

People supported Sandusky, too
 
  • #99
The whole New England Patriots organization is a hot mess (deflate-gate, now this).

signed
- a NY Giant's fan
 
  • #100
Authorities: Kraft visited parlor on day of AFC Championship

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft visited a Florida massage parlor for sex acts on the morning of the AFC Championship Game, which he attended in Kansas City later that day. It was his second visit to the parlor in less than 24 hours. Kraft arrived at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in a chauffeured 2015 blue Bentley at 11 a.m. on January 20.

He was videotaped receiving oral and manual sex from a woman at the spa in Jupiter.

He reportedly gave her a $100 bill and another bill.

Well, this makes it all OK! He was generous. NOT!
 

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