NE Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged w/ soliciting prostitution in Florida spa, Feb 2019 *CLEARED*

[Inthedetails]

“Dinosaur Bar-B-Que” is facing backlash over a sandwich named after Robert Kraft.

“This week ONLY stop into the Syracuse Dinosaur to get a ‘Robert Kraft’ aka the Jerked and Pulled Chicken Sandwich,” the caption read.

Syracuse restaurant slammed for ‘Robert Kraft’ sandwich: report

The jokes would be funny if this was simply about some old rich guy paying a few bucks to get a massage and his dinky-dink jerked and pulled. Not that big of a deal, imo....IF the women are in control of the money they earn and if they have the freedom to leave the premises and the job. From what it looks like, the women are under control and not free.

Forced labor for sexual gratification, yeah, that's really funny. Let's put it on the sandwich menu next to domestic abuse and child neglect. Cheers.

jmo

 

[human]

The juvenile atttitude towards prostituiton is what I have seen so many times from grown men. The “tee hee” that they do is embarrassing to see. Grown men acting lije children.

It is disturbing to have the attitude that a woman is a mere object. Why not jerk off and get a rubber doll? What is the difference? The women are not human beings to them

 

[JerseyGirl]

According to ESPN legal reporter T.J. Quinn, the video “could be tied up for a while” following a motion by a Florida defense attorney.

Video surveillance was used as part of a sting that led to Kraft being charged.

During an appearance on WEEI Tuesday morning, Quinn said that those who have seen the video described it as “extremely graphic.” Quinn initially reported that the video could be released soon. However, he later reported that defense attorney Richard Kibbey, who does not represent Kraft, has filed a motion to block the release of the video, which could delay or prevent the video from being released altogether.

According to Quinn, the decision on whether to release the video is up to the Jupiter police.

Potential release of ‘extremely graphic’ Robert Kraft video tied up after motion

 

[Inthedetails]

According to ESPN legal reporter T.J. Quinn, the video “could be tied up for a while” following a motion by a Florida defense attorney.

Video surveillance was used as part of a sting that led to Kraft being charged.

During an appearance on WEEI Tuesday morning, Quinn said that those who have seen the video described it as “extremely graphic.” Quinn initially reported that the video could be released soon. However, he later reported that defense attorney Richard Kibbey, who does not represent Kraft, has filed a motion to block the release of the video, which could delay or prevent the video from being released altogether.

According to Quinn, the decision on whether to release the video is up to the Jupiter police.

Potential release of ‘extremely graphic’ Robert Kraft video tied up after motion

Please do not release the video to the public. That just further makes a joke out of it and further exploits the women.

Do people have no sense?

jmo

 

[Bravo]

As much as I luv the Sunshine Law that allows us to view documents before a Trial this is a video I definitely don't want to see. Could care less about him but for the young lady's sake.

 

[human]

Think about how pathetic this is. A rich old man having to go do this.

They justify in their own minds that this is not equivalent to masturbation. Save the cash and the humiliation.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Please do not release the video to the public. That just further makes a joke out of it and further exploits the women.

Do people have no sense?

jmo

I agree. She is and should be considered a victim in this case.

 

[plebbob]

If they cared about the well being of these girls why did they use them for an extended period of time to catch so many people? They recorded these girls with countless guys just to serve misdemeanors? Sounds like sensationalism.

 

[Inthedetails]

If they cared about the well being of these girls why did they use them for an extended period of time to catch so many people? They recorded these girls with countless guys just to serve misdemeanors? Sounds like sensationalism.

Are they girls? Do we know if they are underage?

 

[human]

If they cared about the well being of these girls why did they use them for an extended period of time to catch so many people? They recorded these girls with countless guys just to serve misdemeanors? Sounds like sensationalism.

What would you suggest? The burden of proof is high.

 

[kay74]

Kraft has hired Florida defense attorney Jack Goldberger to defend him against prostitution charges. Goldberger previously defended Jeffrey Epstein against charges of trafficking underage girls for sex.

Robert Kraft reportedly hires Florida defense attorney Jack Goldberger to represent him following prostitution charges

Also:

Read the documents detailing the allegations against Robert Kraft. Documents contain sexually explicit details.

What's to defend, he's in the friggin video, slime and all.

 

[plebbob]

What would you suggest? The burden of proof is high.

Maybe after they figure out someone is being exploited to rescue them instead of letting them be exploited over and over again so they can get a wrap sheet on 300 guys. They are using these women as much as the johns are.

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe after they figure out someone is being exploited to rescue them instead of letting them be exploited over and over again so they can get a wrap sheet on 300 guys. They are using these women as much as the johns are.

Yes - I agree. The women are used in more ways than one, by more than one entity. Their captor (assuming they are kept captive, which appears to be), the multiple johns (assuming the women don't have freedom to leave), LE (perhaps), and the public who laugh (definitely).

jmo

 

[bwt42]

Report: Women Robert Kraft received massages from likely not trafficked
Women likely not trafficked

 

[flute4peace]

“Dinosaur Bar-B-Que” is facing backlash over a sandwich named after Robert Kraft.

“This week ONLY stop into the Syracuse Dinosaur to get a ‘Robert Kraft’ aka the Jerked and Pulled Chicken Sandwich,” the caption read.

Syracuse restaurant slammed for ‘Robert Kraft’ sandwich: report

Wow. I could barely bring myself to “like” this post (no offense, Jerseygirl!!!) That is poor taste if I’ve ever seen it.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Report: Women Robert Kraft received massages from likely not trafficked
Women likely not trafficked

According to ESPN’s TJ Quinn, many women who worked at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter — including several who were living at the establishment — are believed to be victims of sex trafficking. However, the two women who engaged in sexual activity with Kraft do not appear to have been.

I'd really like that to be the case (that these women made the choice to do what was done), but I'd rather hear that from LE and not a reporter at ESPN. JMO

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have a different perspective on this, and I think it's a more practical one.
I could care less if some old pathetic geyser is paying for sex, as long as it is a *consenting adult* John/"service provider" relationship. Our law enforcement have more important things to focus on, like finding missing children. Let these stupid old men sort this out with their wives.

HOWEVER, if the sex is not consensual (because the service provider is being held against her will or a minor), well that is RAPE. Even if she accepted payment, doesn't matter. She is being forced in to service, and the John should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law....like life in prison.

Seems like the right approach to me.
Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[mickey2942]

What exactly is the outcome for the charge of solicitation for prostitution? Paying for sex? Isn't it something like a $100 fine? This guy could pay that and not even blink. I don't think that anyone actually gets a prison sentence for paying for sex.

The truth is that in our society, while prostitution is illegal, aside from Ely County in Nevada, most men don't see this as a serious criminal offense. Heck, here in Montana, most judges don't even see rape as a serious criminal act.

 

[Tighthead]

According to ESPN’s TJ Quinn, many women who worked at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter — including several who were living at the establishment — are believed to be victims of sex trafficking. However, the two women who engaged in sexual activity with Kraft do not appear to have been.

I'd really like that to be the case (that these women made the choice to do what was done), but I'd rather hear that from LE and not a reporter at ESPN. JMO

The distinction is pretty much pointless. He is still patronizing the business. I dint see any moral high ground.

ESPN is in bed with the NFL (consenting but exchange of $$$) and this may have an element of spin.

 

[bwt42]

The distinction is pretty much pointless. He is still patronizing the business. I dint see any moral high ground.

ESPN is in bed with the NFL (consenting but exchange of $$$) and this may have an element of spin.

WOW Now I can't even believe ESPN. I guess I'll have to watch all the games rather than relying on them for the scores.