New "Dateline" - 2010.11.12 Kyron Horman case

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  • #101
Interesting when "Gina?" speaks about the T-shirts. TH said Kyron was going to his "Medford family." The interviewer then asked, "She was planning for the future then?" Right THERE I had like a vision thing. I saw Terri backing into Kyron with the white truck. Never been part of my theory and may not make sense, but for some reason it just popped into my head. I dunno... I'm not a vision type lol You can think I'm weird if you want... that's okay. Just thought it was odd and would mention it.
 
  • #102
hasn't this been on before? I have seen this. Is some of it updated?
 
  • #103
Finally it's on here...
They cut into show already in progress
 
  • #104
Some of it is new JBean some repeated from last show.
 
  • #105
I hope you Portland peeps can record the 3:00 a.m. show.... it's really good reporting. Saw 1st segment with Gwen, and all she said was TH was "tired."
 
  • #106
That is cool, looks like they did the drive... from the FM to Sauvie's
 
  • #107
hasn't this been on before? I have seen this. Is some of it updated?

I think so. I think some of the interviews were older as I remember Desiree and her shirts. lol (weird... I know)
 
  • #108
Some parts are "new" but not "news."
 
  • #109
My T.V. doesn't work.So I will have to wait to see it here or somewhere.But I went somewhere else where they said what was going on as it was happening as they were watching it.I probably won't be watching any more of these shows any more.They just said new information.So I thought there was going to be more leads and I'm a little disappointed there wasn't.I think I will just wait for LE pressers now.
 
  • #110
Yey! It's on in Portland!! :)
 
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  • #112
In the part that was just on she said she looked really,really exhausted and tired that day, but she looked like that every day.

That was a teaser snippet of the upcoming segment so... to be continued.
The narrator said that Gwen said that she talked to TH that day and that Terri seemed 'spent"
Gwen says: When I saw Terri on Friday she looked really, really exhausted and tired, but she looks like that every day.
She asked me how am I doing and i said i was good. I asked her how she was doing and was she ok and she said, I am just tired..Terri just you know Terri just looked really exhausted that day.
 
  • #113
Ahh that road they just showed, I know where that is..
(off rentenar rd)
 
  • #114
Does watching the show help non locals understand the terrain.. etc???
 
  • #115
Innocent people dont fear that their words can incriminate them. It makes no sense she is being bullied into silence since it hasnt stopped her reconnecting with old male classmates on facebook. Terri has incriminated heself. She was so desparate not to incriminate herself that she was willing to give up seeing her small daughter.
Her demeanor after the abduction is major evidence against her. Loving parents would be out of their minds with worry and fear for their child. Terri was sexting like a carefree teenager.
I was initially willing to give her the benefit of a doubt but not any more. Contrast Terris silence with the demeanor of the innocent parents Desiree and kaine and it speaks volumes. Why isnt she demanding the real culprit wsbe caught? Because there is no other culprit and she knows it.
 
  • #116
I feel Terri's problem was with Kaine.Not little Kyron.I don't think she hurt Kyron.But I may be wrong.
You might find this article about domestic abuse interesting. Specifically, look under 1.6 Abusive Tactics

Abusers frequently involve the victim's children in their efforts to assert control. Some abusers kidnap, sexually abuse, or physically harm the victim's children, or threaten to commit one of these acts. Others initiate or threaten to initiate court proceedings to remove the children from the victim's home, or use court-ordered parenting time as an opportunity to harass the victim.
http://jec.unm.edu/resources/benchbooks/dv/ch_1.htm

Lethal violence may occur unexpectedly, without any advance warning from the abuser's behavior, the presence of the following factors can signal the need for extra safety precautions - the more of these factors that are present in a situation, the greater its danger.
• The victim (who is familiar with the abuser's patterns of behavior) believes the abuser's threats may be lethal
• The abuser threatens to kill the victim or other persons.
• The abuser threatens or attempts suicide.
• The abuser fantasizes about homicide or suicide.
• Weapons are present, and/or the abuser has a history of using weapons.
• The abuse involves strangling, choking, or biting the victim.
• The abuser has easy access to the victim or the victim's family.
• The couple has a history of prior calls to the police for help.
• The abuser exhibits stalking behavior.
• The abuser is jealous and possessive, or imagines the victim is having affairs with others.
• The abuser is preoccupied or obsessed with the victim.
• The abuser is isolated from others, and the victim is central to the abuser's life.
• The abuser is assaultive during sex.
• The abuser makes threats to the victim's children.
• The abuser threatens to take the victim hostage, or has a history of hostage-taking.
• The severity or frequency of violence has escalated.
• The abuser is depressed or paranoid.
• The abuser or victim has a psychiatric impairment.
• The abuser has started taking more risks, or is "breaking the rules" for using violence in the relationship (e.g., after years of abuse committed only in the privacy of the home, the abuser suddenly begins to behave abusively in public settings)
• The abuser has a history of assaultive behavior against others.
• The abuser has a history of defying court orders and the judicial system.
• The victim has begun a new relationship.
• The abuser has problems with drug or alcohol use, or assaults the victim while intoxicated or high.

Rygwelski, above, p. 49-52; Walker, et al, Domestic Violence and the Courtroom: Understanding the Problem ... Knowing the Victim, p. 4 (American Judges Foundation, 1995).
 
  • #117
omg... Kaine looks like hell. :(
 
  • #118
Does watching the show help non locals understand the terrain.. etc???

I'm in WA so know the terrain, but man... I didn't know that Sauvie Island was so beautiful.
 
  • #119
That is cool, looks like they did the drive... from the FM to Sauvie's

It didn't seem as long to me when we took that drive, Free. Is there more than one route?
 
  • #120
omg... Kaine looks like hell. :(

I had never met Kaine before Kyron went missing so I have no comparison, but I can see the stress has got to him as by seeing him in person he looks different than in pictures I've taken and seeing him on t.v...
the saying "the camera adds 10lbs" rings true.. =(
 
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