New leads in search for missing baby Lisa Irwin

  • #41
I suppose someone has seen another man walk past a tree.


:great: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: Yep ... just another "Blob" ..

:waitasec: Well, it could not have been Jersey walking around the neighborhood 'cause he is :behindbar

:waitasec:
 
  • #42
This seems to me like a preemptive strike. Makes me wonder if something else is about to happen.

Remember how Jose would always come up with some new story right before a document dump?
 
  • #43
:seeya: Aha ... we weren't present in the interview room BUT remember this :

- It was Deborah who went on national tv and said she "failed" the poly ...

- It was Deborah who went on national tv and said that LE was questioning her about "burnt clothes" found in the "dumpster that caught fire" ...

- It was Deborah who went on national tv and said she was "drunk" the night Baby Lisa went "missing" ...

So ... Deborah is the person responsible for "telling" the public these "little tidbits" ...

And now ... Deborah is NOT talking to the media -- :doh: that's right, she said she is "grieving" ...

Oh ... and now Deborah and Jeremy can HIDE behind their two defense lawyers ... how convenient ...

MOO ...

Thank you, I think this goes to show that it may not have been an interview but a full blown interrogation, why else would she say these things? To me it adds as much credance no matter what angle you look at it. We still don't KNOW how anyone behaved in that room, why she was told she failed the LDT, if she was accused of burning the clothes found in the dumpster (which miraculously reappeared at the home in good condition if you believe some posters) nor do we KNOW why they are not talking to media, but I know why I wouldn't, and it has nothing to do with guilt or innocense.
 
  • #44
I'm confused when people say the lawyer made the comment to deflect 'heat' off the parents. What heat are we referring to again? Surely it must not be 'heat' coming from the public, as this case has disappeared from the national headlines. In fact, the activity on this very forum has dwindled down a whole lot. Does we mean heat from LE? Do we know for a fact LE has turned the heat up on the parents? Would we know that?

Like I said, it may be all smoke and mirrors, but I don't see the point of making a statement to MSM, therefore putting his clients back in the news cycle.

Self serving, I suspect. High profile attorneys and PI's need publicity or they wouldn't be high profile. This case may have gotten a little too quiet for their liking.
 
  • #45
I find this "lawyering up is sooooooo bad" talk kind of odd here considering this very website has a "Don't Talk to the Cops" video series stickied in the General Information and Discussion section.

Some of us don't like that series very much, actually. Don't think that everyone agrees on everything because that just isn't true.

I don't see how it helps to find this baby if they won't talk to police. :twocents:
 
  • #46
BBM I thought their job was to keep the story out of the news altogether, at least that was said many times in the past. So now their job is to reignite the case? Again, I wish I knew which theory re:the lawyers job is true.

*sigh* Defense attorneys always do this stuff for their clients.

In the Laci Peterson case, the attorney used to blame everything on homeless people who somehow carried away a pregnant woman on a bicycle and dumped her in San Francisco Bay without a boat.

I learned back then that it's called "throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks."

ETA: It's done to raise doubt in the minds of the public, who are future potential jury members.

The PI's for the McCann family used to drum up tabloid support every time a child looking like Madeleine was seen in a foreign country in the company of some "strange foreign kidnapper" (it was never her, and usually the people involved were the child's parents).

Probably the kernal of truth today is that there has been another unlikely sighting of a child that might or might not be Lisa, and they know it isn't Lisa, but they are spinning like there's no tomorrow and calling it "working for their clients." :twocents:
 
  • #47
Some of us don't like that series very much, actually. Don't think that everyone agrees on everything because that just isn't true.

I don't see how it helps to find this baby if they won't talk to police. :twocents:

Well did "some of us" tell the person who stickied it, that they didn't like that series very much?
 
  • #48
I don't know much about the Ayla Reynolds case in Maine, but the Colorado man who wanted to help in the search for Lisa Irwin was on with Vinnie Politan last night. I wasn't paying attention but wonder if he might have mentioned Baby Lisa case as a comparison to other child disappearances where he's offered help. Did anyone see the show, and if so, did Mr. Abeyta (? spelling) mention Lisa Irwin case?
 
  • #49
This seems to me like a preemptive strike. Makes me wonder if something else is about to happen.

Remember how Jose would always come up with some new story right before a document dump?


Good point ... and I sure wish "something" would happen ... and I sure wish LE would release some of the interview transcripts ... even the 9-1-1 would be nice to hear ... "something" -- "anything" -- I don't like this "silence" :innocent:

:waitasec: And whatever happened with that $100,000 Reward ? Ya would think somebody would talk ...

MOO ...
 
  • #50
I don't know much about the Ayla Reynolds case in Maine, but the Colorado man who wanted to help in the search for Lisa Irwin was on with Vinnie Politan last night. I wasn't paying attention but wonder if he might have mentioned Baby Lisa case as a comparison to other child disappearances where he's offered help. Did anyone see the show, and if so, did Mr. Abeyta (? spelling) mention Lisa Irwin case?


:seeya: I saw a little bit of Vinnie's show last night -- the segment on Ayla Reynolds where Vinnie showed a video of Ayla's grandfather "pleading" for the baby's return.

I got sidetracked and did not listen to the rest of the show, but I did see that Vinnie had Gil on his show.

Sorry, I don't know if Gil commented or made any comparisons to Baby Lisa.
 
  • #51
Self serving, I suspect. High profile attorneys and PI's need publicity or they wouldn't be high profile. This case may have gotten a little too quiet for their liking.

Or the television station knew it was coming up on the three-month anniversary and the case would come to people's minds again. They asked for an update and got one from the attorney.
 
  • #52
hehehehe my 2 cents about this is:

the attorney is trying to poke around to see if LE will give up any information as to where they are in the investigation. LE is too smart to fall for this JB tactic. lol
 
  • #53
Once again it seems we may be assuming too much from too little information. They didn't specify police investigators, so was it PI or independant investigation?

JMO from the phrasing, "the police and FBI have this information", it sounds like it's some Bill Stanton's faithful sidekicks investigating and forwarding whatever they found to KCPD and FBI. It would be redundant to say that they have this info if it was the Kansas City police and FBI investigators getting these leads in the first place.
 
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  • #55
I suppose someone has seen another man walk past a tree.

Men and women - frequently with their dogs - walk past the tree on my front lawn several times daily. They all look like moving "blobs" at night, not so much during the day.
 
  • #56
Or the television station knew it was coming up on the three-month anniversary and the case would come to people's minds again. They asked for an update and got one from the attorney.

I hope it was the media going to ask for updates. I hope they will not let them forget, keep asking for interviews, quotes, keep questioning who is looking for Lisa, how and when. If JI/DB's egos will get the better of them and they would talk, it's possible that one day they will say just that one little phrase, one tidbit that will help LE solve the case.
 
  • #57
The lawyers are keeping the case out of the news.
The lawyers are making information on the case disappear from court records and the internet.
The lawyers are going to the news with false information to get it back in the news.
The lawyers are keeping the case out of the news.
The family is hoping it will all go away.
The family's lawyers are putting out spin to draw attention to the case.

This is all getting very confusing. Which one is it?

All of them! .
 
  • #58
"The number of tips have dwindled in both quantity and quality," Young said. "Just like we have been from the beginning, we are open to following up on anything that is remotely reasonable."

My money is on Officer Young. He will follow up on anything remotely reasonable. His words were in response to Picerno's statement about promising leads...LOL.

......"remotely reasonable" are the key words here. Tips have gone down in quality and quantity. It was time for the DT to stir things up and keep LE busy and wasting money. It is what they do. And on top of that,, they get to use all the phoney leads and sightings in a court of law to create what they call 'Reasonable Doubt".
 
  • #59
....or a German Shepherd pee on one.:great:

LOL

Not laughing at Lisa, just the above post.

Those that followed Caylee's case will understand.

And we could use a German Shepherd in this one!
 
  • #60
We may need to take a course in "Defense Attorney Speak". We have to break down every word and the punctuation they use...no easy task.
 

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