New Video Interviews released from SA's office 11/21 #2

[Pondering Mind]

Seizures can result from such a wide variety of things, even something as simple as video games. There could be any number of explanations IMO.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I have a question regarding CA's interview, maybe someone can shed some light on it for me? CA talks about the strain in the relationship between KC & LA with GA because of GA's lies to CA about losing the money a few years back - is it me or does that seem out of proportion to anybody else? LA & CA were both over 18 at the time. (GA isn't legally bound to support them any longer) I can/could understand them having "some" feelings toward GA about this but to this degree and still carrying these feelings toward GA? I don't understand how it was a direct violation toward either one of them (LA & KC) It seems to me that they are more upset by what GA did (at least still to this day) then CA...anyone?

 

[Katana]

According to Cindy, there are red flags and clues surrounding everyone and everything. Well, everyone except Casey. Casey is the perfect mother and the model citizen so there is obviously no need to continue in that direction. Cindy does not want to speculate, but she can connect all the names of Casey's friends (both real and make believe) to this crime.

The irony is that the entire illogical interview with Cindy speaking to the FBI about all these "red flags" is a "red flag" in itself.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

I am still not clear on that point. I believe they can keep things out of the public eye and only privy to themselves, but not certain exactly how it works until trial.

:wave::blowkiss: Oh you knew I wouldn't resist this. Per FL Rules Crim Procedure:


(2) If the court determines, in camera, that any police or investigative report contains irrelevant, sensitive
information or information interrelated with other crimes or criminal activities and the disclosure of the contents of
the police report may seriously impair law enforcement or jeopardize the investigation of those other crimes or
activities, the court may prohibit or partially restrict the disclosure.
(3) The court may prohibit the state from introducing into evidence any of the foregoing material not disclosed,
so as to secure and maintain fairness in the just determination of the cause.

The Court "may" prohibit the use of this restricted evidence. It is not mandatory that it be excluded at the trial pursuant to the rule.

There are also circumstances in which the Court, on its own, can act to restrict disclosure of materials to different parties but that is more to protect individuals than to uphold crimefighting. :wink::blowkiss:

 

[Pondering Mind]

Agreed. I'm just wondering why CA didn't at some point have a paranoia moment. She's babbling incessantly for hours with the agents occasionally saying, uh huh, and she doesn't wonder why? Why aren't they asking questions?

Yeah, she did say "you probably think I'm nuts" but then just went back to rambling.

Overall I was surprised to see just how socially clueless she really is. I know she's unbalanced but she did function at a job, kept a household together, etc. and yet I can't imagine how she did it. Oh well, just rhetorical...

I wonder if she has watched these videos since they were released. If she has does she recognize now how odd her behavior was? (is) It sounded to me like she thought she was going to waltz in there and *put the FBI on the track that they needed to be on* (in her mind anyway) I don't know much about the nature vs nurture thing, but watching and listening to Cindy, certainly let me know where Casey gets much of her behavior from. jmo

 

[MiraclesHappen]

According to Cindy, there are red flags and clues surrounding everyone and everything. Well, everyone except Casey. Casey is the perfect mother and the model citizen so there is obviously no need to continue in that direction. Cindy does not want to speculate, but she can connect all the names of Casey's friends (both real and make believe) to this crime.

The irony is that the entire illogical interview with Cindy speaking to the FBI about all these "red flags" is a "red flag" in itself.

So is wearing the American one.

 

[manatee]

I've been getting the feeling that KC has been the victim of sexual abuse. Her behaviors are consistent with this theory. Maybe she snapped because she caught this abuser doing the same to Caylee....
I'm thinking that this will be the defense's claim. that KC gave Caylee away and will not reveal her whereabouts to protect her from this abuse...

 

[Linda7NJ]

I have a question regarding CA's interview, maybe someone can shed some light on it for me? CA talks about the strain in the relationship between KC & LA with GA because of GA's lies to CA about losing the money a few years back - is it me or does that seem out of proportion to anybody else? LA & CA were both over 18 at the time. (GA isn't legally bound to support them any longer) I can/could understand them having "some" feelings toward GA about this but to this degree and still carrying these feelings toward GA? I don't understand how it was a direct violation toward either one of them (LA & KC) It seems to me that they are more upset by what GA did (at least still to this day) then CA...anyone?

IMO No one in that house respected George. He was a doormat and a liar. He strikes me as rather pitiful and pathetic. How after smelling that car and driving it back home...he went to work, his granddaughter is missing...I will NEVER understand. He's either dumb as a stick, and the e-mail scam supports that, involved in the crime/cover-up, or a huge wuss and does whatever CA tells him to.

do we need an unoffical poll?

 

[nomoresorrow]

According to Cindy, there are red flags and clues surrounding everyone and everything. Well, everyone except Casey. Casey is the perfect mother and the model citizen so there is obviously no need to continue in that direction. Cindy does not want to speculate, but she can connect all the names of Casey's friends (both real and make believe) to this crime.

The irony is that the entire illogical interview with Cindy speaking to the FBI about all these "red flags" is a "red flag" in itself.

:clap::clap::clap:


SO TRUE, waves the biggest red flag to me, wonder if it did as well to the FBI...

 

[Theonly1]

The more I read and hear from the grandparents the more I feel a t-tiny bit of pity for Casey. I'm not saying it's CA or GA's "fault" that Casey turned out the way she has. I think it's a combination of nature and nuture. BUT there's just some flat out friggin' strange nurturing going on in that family (in my opinion). The truth does not seem to be very highly valued (GA lies to CA, CA says that lying is not a crime, Casey steals and CA covers ad nauseum). I don't think this mess we're seeing just started in the last few years. Does anyone else think about Casey as a young child and wonder HOW she got to be in this situation?

[The pity I feel does in no way excuse anything she may have done to Caylee.]

 

[nomoresorrow]

IMO No one in that house respected George. He was a doormat and a liar. He strikes me as rather pitiful and pathetic. How after smelling that car and driving it back home...he went to work, his granddaughter is missing...I will NEVER understand. He's either dumb as a stick, and the e-mail scam supports that, involved in the crime/cover-up, or a huge wuss and does whatever CA tells him to.

do we need an unoffical poll?

I agree 100% with you but what I'm wondering (or suspicious of) is that whatever "unpardonable sin" GA committed a few years back that still has such lasting emotional feelings by LA & KC "personally", that it must have been something more than the loss of $$ in he and CA's relationship - or, as I'm writing this, I'm wondering if its that anything that has to do with $$ is the "unpardonable sin" in the "A" family? I'm thinking of the day that GA & CA went to get KC's car at the tow yard and their uproar about the $$ vs. where is Caylee?!

 

[nomoresorrow]

Being new here & not posting very frequently I hope that I'm not being annoying, its just that since watching and listening to the FBI interviews with GA & CA I am full of questions! I know most of the WS's have been at this along time and know so much about LE and FBI interviewing procedures, which I have to admit, I have never seen before to this extent until this case. Can someone tell me if the assessment that the FBI had GA & CA of KC is normal procedure? Do they always ask about someone's sexual behavior/preferences, etc...? Thank you WS's for your patience with me here!

 

[MiraclesHappen]

I've been getting the feeling that KC has been the victim of sexual abuse. Her behaviors are consistent with this theory. Maybe she snapped because she caught this abuser doing the same to Caylee....
I'm thinking that this will be the defense's claim. that KC gave Caylee away and will not reveal her whereabouts to protect her from this abuse...

And just who might be providing that testimony for the defense? :waitasec:

 

[amysmom]

Someone asked in the prior (closed) thread if CA had already known about KA stealing from AH during that FBI interview when she tried to paint AH as a possible perp..She definitely did!

CA warned AH on the ride to get KA at TL's that she was a "theif" & told the same to TL when she briefly spoke to him in the apt before leaving with KA..

As soon as AH was dropped off by CA she checked her bank account online & found it was empty..She also ran out to the car to find her checkbook missing from the glove compartment..AH called LE that night ASAP & also the A house to confront KA..I'm pretty sure she spoke to CA about it & she confronted her daughter..KA admitted it & she said to relay "sorry" to AH..She did not wait long to press charges..It was either that night or the next day and still CA not only omitted this info to the FBI but claimed there was some other reason (she's Zanny!) for her not showing up at their house with Ricardo & the others..I have to believe the FBI knew all of this & they had to be shaking their disgusting heads just like the rest of us at the GALL of CA!

 

[amysmom]

I've been getting the feeling that KC has been the victim of sexual abuse. Her behaviors are consistent with this theory. Maybe she snapped because she caught this abuser doing the same to Caylee....
I'm thinking that this will be the defense's claim. that KC gave Caylee away and will not reveal her whereabouts to protect her from this abuse...

But there's evidence of a DEAD Caylee so how will this possibly work? Unless the plan will be to try to blame the abuser for her DEATH & even that would be a hard sell IMHO.

 

[manatee]

But there's evidence of a DEAD Caylee so how will this possibly work? Unless the plan will be to try to blame the abuser for her DEATH & even that would be a hard sell IMHO.

yes, this is what I mean by "snapped" that she killed Caylee.
I'm thinking JB will say that Caylee was given away to protect her but and that he wil discredit the forensics. I don't believe that, however.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I know we have psychologists here on WS, and I'd so like them to give us some psychological insight into Cindy's personality and behavior.

Actually, I have two reasons for wanting that evaluation -- My own mother was a Cindy, there's no question about that. I loved her, but she was so overpowering and dominating, that even when I knew I was right, I doubted myself. In later years, I ended up consulting a therapist about my angry confusion over things she'd said and done.

He was a great guy and witty, too. After three visits, he stopped me and said "I don't need to hear any more. She's narcissistic, and from the time you were born, she's deliberately made you doubt your own judgment and rely on hers. It did not matter to her that what she was doing to you was damaging and wrong. She needed to be in control."

Then he stood up and said, "With a mother like that, it's amazing you've turned out as you have. No charge for this visit."

Anway, I've noticed there are quite a few of us here who recognize Cindy in our own mothers. We actually know how shamelessly she will recreate reality to suit her own goals. I bet there are many of us who would like to understand what she's all about, psychologically.

If I'm wrong, just disregard this post.

Friday, you are so NOT wrong here! I actually see my sister and her husband, who also have a son & daughter (now adults) and a grandchild (from daughter - father unknown) playing out in front of my very eyes in the "A" family. And yes I do recognize Cindy in my own mother as well, thankfully by the time that my mother had grandchildren she had gone thru some things that led her to do some serious soul-searching and she was able to recognize and change her behavior. Of course that included individual & group counseling as well.

 

[anastacia129]

no wonder they put CA on meds. She can read anything into anything. Looney tunes! Can't wait to her her testimony. If kc picked her nose 3 times in an hour, CA could read that as 3 people took Caylee, 3 miles away on the 3rd of July and will keep her 3 years.

 

[RobinSTAR]

My mother was a CINDY too. I say WAS because she is SO different now. She was so dominating and involved in my life. She worked at every school I have ever been to. At 21she would throw a FIT and yell for hours at me getting home after midnight. So, like casey, I lied to stay out. Say I was staying the night on campus because I was studying late. I would lie to avoid yelling. It wasn't until my grandfather died that she became a DIFFERENT person! It was a dramtic change. He was very dominating over her even at the age of 55 he would get mad about decisions she's made. Maybe someone is the same over cindy....

 

[Theonly1]

Does anyone else find it strange that with all of the people thrown under the bus by the A team that they never have really thrown AL under the bus? The go on and on about Casey's "new friends" but seemingly focus on AH and RG. While Casey asks for TonE on the first jail call home, the parents seemingly do not focus on him. Why is that?