GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #12

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  • #261
Jmo the boyfriend and his father were treated as suspects. That is likely to make Dad a bit agitated now that she suddenly reappears and it is a huge mystery as to where she has been or why. So I can give him a little slack for speaking out. Jmo
 
  • #262
I feel so sorry for the son in this case. This must have been traumatizing for him. His girlfriend vanishes and then he gets asked all about sex and whether he thinks his father did it.

Again, I can completely see why the father wants answers right now. I know, I know...he is wrong and should just give Abby and her family privacy and it is really none of his business and he should just be patient and let LE do their job. Did I do that right?

I understand the dad and son's feelings too. I'd sure feel the same way. But the fact that they are speaking with the media about this case shows precisely why they are not only not entitled to info but why giving them any, prematurely, would be dangerous.
 
  • #263
Jmo the boyfriend and his father were treated as suspects. That is likely to make Dad a bit agitated now that she suddenly reappears and it is a huge mystery as to where she has been or why. So I can give him a little slack for speaking out. Jmo

Of course. Agreed.
 
  • #264
IMO a 14 year old girl has no business having a boyfriend. Period. With that said, also IMO the BF's father is owed nothing. He is not a family member and come on...this was not a serious relationship. A 15 year old and 14 year old? Be real...

BF's father has always, from day one, come across as an outspoken jerk quite honestly IMO. Just MOO.
 
  • #265
James explained: 'The cops asked me if I knew whether Jimmy and Abby were having sex. I said, "If I knew I would have put a stop to it and if I caught them, I would put my foot in both their a***s". But, they are both kids and kids will be kids.
'Then they asked if I knew that they had been to Rite Aid and bought a pregnancy test. They said they had the video from the cash register.
'I asked my son and he said he knew nothing about it. He knows nothing about girl's stuff like that and I'll tell you, my son doesn’t lie to me.
'About six months after Abby went missing, Zenya texted me asking If I knew If they were having sex. A few days ago she was asking for copies of Jimmy and Abby's texts on the day she disappeared. I have no idea why'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706057/We-just-want-truth-Father-Abigail-Hernandezs-boyfriend-pleads-told-teenager-nine-months-reveals-moment-spared-ordeal.html#ixzz38W03Ng5w
 
  • #266
Speaking ONLY to what's in the MSM I linked above, kids lie about having sex.
 
  • #267
just a friend reminding other friends in light of recent links featuring boyfriend's father's statements:

As far as I know the Pregnancy Theory is still off the table

tread carefully peeps
 
  • #268
Two people who have worked tirelessly on the campaign to bring Abby home are Amanda Smith and Paul Kirsch.

They ran the Bring Abby Home website and while they both understand the public’s burning desire to find out what happened to the school girl, they have urged people to focus instead on the fact that she is home, safe and sound.
Speaking to MailOnline, Paul said: 'We have had one goal throughout this process and that was to bring Abby home. The investigation is on-going into what happened, but that is down to the police and the FBI.'
Amanda Smith spoke to Zenya everyday through the ordeal and says she showed incredible courage.

But when Abby was eventually found, the overjoyed mother broke down in her first conversation with Amanda and said: 'She’s home. It’s over. The nightmare’s over. She’s back.'
She added: 'They could just sit in a room staring at each other and they’d be happy. They are just enjoying being around each other.'
But despite Amanda and Paul’s message, many locals in North Conway feel the same as James Campbell and are still incredibly frustrated by the lack answers.

A number of people posted their views on the Facebook page of The Conway Daily Sun.

One, Jaime McKinnon, wrote: 'Okay... So I hate to be a huge jerk here.. but seriously. It's like pulling teeth to get any darn info. The entire area has gone above and beyond to support and help with the search for her. Now she's back and we can't get any darn answers.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...veals-moment-spared-ordeal.html#ixzz38W03Ng5w
 
  • #269
IMO a 14 year old girl has no business having a boyfriend. Period. With that said, also IMO the BF's father is owed nothing. He is not a family member and come on...this was not a serious relationship. A 15 year old and 14 year old? Be real...

BF's father has always, from day one, come across as an outspoken jerk quite honestly IMO. Just MOO.

Regardless of their relationship status, based upon what the dad has said, it sounds to me like the investigators were not particularly decent with him or his son. I have looked closely at his statements and he strikes me as being sincere. Subjectively to him, this whole thing has been extremely hard on him. I would sound like a jerk to if I had gone through what he went through.
 
  • #270
:goodpost:

NH Law Enforcement and the FBI are doing everything they can to get to the bottom of all of this. I've just read the past 6 pages and saw LE being bashed and their tactics questioned, crap news articles from tabloid "news" websites that speak to people who WILL talk although they SHOULD NOT or don't know nothing anyway.
Abby is a child and though she is safe I certainly feel she is still very much at risk and there are people responsible for her disappearance (IMO) and if you think, even just think someone whether you know them or not don't blast it on the Internet so they can RUN!!!! REPORT IT!!!!! call it in, directly to Conway PD...... common sense and Abby and her family's safety is what comes to mind when I see RSO's being blasted everywhere and LE being bashed.... Let LE do their job, BETTER YET help them and call in info if you think you have it!!!!
 
  • #271
IMO a 14 year old girl has no business having a boyfriend. Period. With that said, also IMO the BF's father is owed nothing. He is not a family member and come on...this was not a serious relationship. A 15 year old and 14 year old? Be real...

BF's father has always, from day one, come across as an outspoken jerk quite honestly IMO. Just MOO.

Teenagers shouldn't date? Maybe this is a regional or cultural difference, but in New England, dating at 14 isn't unusual at all. They're walking each other home from school, not flying to Cabo for spring break.

In response to the article saying that they were caught on tape buying something, if my memories from that age are correct, people tended to not buy those things for themselves. At my school, it was very common for a friend (or usually friends) to run to the drug store for any potentially necessary supplies for before or after indoor sports. Somehow, it was way less embarrassing if it was for someone else.
 
  • #272
you have every right to your opinions and I agree with some of them. <Mod Snip>

Likewise with area RSO registry information. There are very strict guidelines here about what can and cannot be published in that regard and people are following those guidelines and staying within TOS. I doubt highly it will turn out to be someone one the registry but it is always possible I guess. I feel pretty confident that LE checked RSOs when Abby went missing. It is SOP.

I 100% agree with you about letting LE do its jobs, people who know the family need to keep their mouths out of the press and let them do it. John Q Public should likewise stop screaming for answers from a minor child.

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  • #273
  • He also revealed that his son saw Abby from school bus the day she vanished but driver would not stop to let him accompany her home
  • Spoke of how he had to take lie detector test after she disappeared
  • Family also quizzed over whether Jimmy had got her pregnant after they were allegedly caught on store cameras buying a testing kit
  • But his son denies this and police sources said they do not believe she has had a baby
&#8203;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...veals-moment-spared-ordeal.html#ixzz38W03Ng5w

I feel sorry for JCjr, he's just a kid too, and he has been through a lot.

I'm going to refrain from commenting on the rest of that article and JC. Nu uh, not gonna go there ! :silenced:
 
  • #274
Teenagers shouldn't date? Maybe this is a regional or cultural difference, but in New England, dating at 14 isn't unusual at all. They're walking each other home from school, not flying to Cabo for spring break.

My opinion is that a 14 year old girl has no business dating. That is my opinion. With that said, the way Mr Campbell acts is like they had a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP. How do a 14 and 15 year old have a serious relationship? They are young children. Now there are questions as to whether or not they were having sex and although I know it does happen, if it were my daughter and if she were having sex at the age of 14 she would be forbidden from seeing said boy or going over his house...ever! And I certainly wouldn't be friendly towards his family. I'm sorry, but I would take huge issue with this. Again this is MOO.
 
  • #275
My opinion is that a 14 year old girl has no business dating. That is my opinion. With that said, the way Mr Campbell acts is like they had a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP. How do a 14 and 15 year old have a serious relationship? They are young children. Now there are questions as to whether or not they were having sex and although I know it does happen, if it were my daughter and if she were having sex at the age of 14 she would be forbidden from seeing said boy or going over his house...ever! And I certainly wouldn't be friendly towards his family. I'm sorry, but I would take huge issue with this. Again this is MOO.

i was 14 once. when i was 14 i called it dating. what i was really doing was writing notes back and forth in class and believing i was sooo in love.

i was 14. no one was taking me out on "dates" but i would refer to it as "dating". so would my friends and family. because i was 14, and it sounded so grown up and cool.
 
  • #276
I feel so sorry for the son in this case. This must have been traumatizing for him. His girlfriend vanishes and then he gets asked all about sex and whether he thinks his father did it.

Again, I can completely see why the father wants answers right now. I know, I know...he is wrong and should just give Abby and her family privacy and it is really none of his business and he should just be patient and let LE do their job. Did I do that right?

I agree!!!!! Rightfully so, Zenya and Sarah have been devastated and the public gives sympathy for that! No one thinks much about the other people who were VERY close to her in her life! A boyfriend of a year is a big deal!!! I can imagine how hard this must have been for him to shoulder not only losing a girlfriend, but feeling like he could have done something AND being a suspect! You can believe he WAS interrogated, apparently, for nothing he had anything to do with!! As a parent of that child, that must be DEVASTATING!!! Watching your child go through something so difficult that he has no control over. I absolutely feel for them. They don't get the joy of her returning, only the cold shoulder and more "why?"s. Little Jimmy, you did nothing wrong. Enjoy your life the best you can, little man. You, too, are a victim here!
 
  • #277
AG asks for patience but says answers to questions about Abby will come
On Friday. she said the man in the sketch, who Abby told authorities she drove away with, is in his late 40s.
Young said she still cannot confirm whether Abby went willingly or not.
Young said she can "almost guarantee" there will be answers to those questions at the end of the investigation.
Authorities are releasing information as soon as they can, she said adding the investigation is still "fluid and dynamic."
http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/local-news/115496-ag-says-answers-in-abby-case-will-come-in-time
 
  • #278
Associate Attorney General Jane Young knows there are lots of questions surrounding the reemergence of Abigail Hernandez, the teen who had been missing about nine months.

On Friday she said the man in the sketch, who Abby told authorities she drove away with, is in his late 40s.

Young said she still cannot confirm whether Abby went willingly or not.

Young said she can "almost guarantee" there will be answers to those questions at the end of the investigation.

Authorities are releasing information as soon as they can, she said adding the investigation is still "fluid and dynamic."

http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/local-news/115496-ag-says-answers-in-abby-case-will-come-in-time
 
  • #279
My opinion is that a 14 year old girl has no business dating. That is my opinion. With that said, the way Mr Campbell acts is like they had a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP. How do a 14 and 15 year old have a serious relationship? They are young children. Now there are questions as to whether or not they were having sex and although I know it does happen, if it were my daughter and if she were having sex at the age of 14 she would be forbidden from seeing said boy or going over his house...ever! And I certainly wouldn't be friendly towards his family. I'm sorry, but I would take huge issue with this. Again this is MOO.

At 14 or 15, every relationship is serious to them. At that age, things are so immediate, so intense and vastly important. Puppylove is one of the purest forms of love on earth. (I'm not addressing the level of physicality the relationship may have had because they are two kids and I feel that discussing that is inappropriate, especially since their relationship seems to have nothing to do with the case. They deserve privacy from the public on that matter.)

My opinion, of course.
 
  • #280
Strictly my opinion but to me all signs point to Abby leaving voluntarily, regretting it soon after the fact and being too embarrassed or ashamed to return. IMO no heinous crime(abduction, sexual predator, etc)was committed here but any adult that harbors a juvenile and keeps them from their family deserves punishment.

I think most of the confusion can be attributed to Abby's hesitance to " fess up". I am in no way bashing or blaming her. I did lots of stupid stuff and put my parents through hell when I was her age so if this is the case I can relate.

Just my theory and I have been wrong many times before. Kimster, if this is seen as victim blaming please zap me. It is truly not my intent.
 
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