GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #12

[Jacie Estes]

Conway Police Department
32 Main St, Conway, MA 01341
(413) 625-8200

 

[gitana1]

Regardless of their relationship status, based upon what the dad has said, it sounds to me like the investigators were not particularly decent with him or his son. I have looked closely at his statements and he strikes me as being sincere. Subjectively to him, this whole thing has been extremely hard on him. I would sound like a jerk to if I had gone through what he went through.

If questioning those closest to a missing kid is not decent, how are police supposed to find missing persons? I mean, LE is damned if they do and damned if they don't in these cases. He was questioned. It doesn't sound like the boy was screamed at or accused. Just questioned. How is that improper?

 

[Fireweed]

I respectfully disagree with you on that, Fireweed (post 271 on prev page). It sounds to me that the investigators treated the family properly. Of course, no one wants to be treated as a suspect. So I can understand his resentment.

JC proclaimed when Abigail went missing that she spent most of her time with his family. Of course, the Cs had to be investigated thoroughly and ruled in or out. We don't know if Abby really was with them as much as he said or whether accounts from others differed. We don't know how Abigail felt about JC or what she may have confided to others that may have piqued investigators' interest.

It sounds like LE did what they should do--physically separate the individuals and interview them individually. Having the son show them her special places identified and ruled out those areas. And it built rapport. If the son knew or suspected his father was involved or if the boy had some knowledge of Abby's plans or whereabouts that he had not shared, he'd be freer to talk. Interviewing him as they walked through the woods to accomplish a task would make it easier for the son to disclose any information he had. It's a more comfortable approach than staring across a table in a sterile interview room.

Investigators needed to determine if this man (who made himself the public face of the disappearance in the first few days) was obsessed with Abby and involved in her disappearance or whether he was a genuinely distraught guy who considered himself a father figure to her. Telling him that the kids were on video buying a pregnancy test would explore why she may have decided to leave--was she pregnant or being abused. And if JC was more than a father figure to Abby, they could gauge his reaction to the news.

I understand why JC would resent the way the Cs were treated. Anyone would. But from a law enforcement standpoint, it sounds like they handled the investigation of the Cs well.

This is what I wrote:

I have looked closely at his statements and he strikes me as being sincere. Subjectively to him, this whole thing has been extremely hard on him. I would sound like a jerk to if I had gone through what he went through.

I made it clear, that at least to him, he was not treated right. I am excusing his emotion based upon the way that he saw the events.

 

[Bodhi]

AG asks for patience but says answers to questions about Abby will come

http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/local-news/115496-ag-says-answers-in-abby-case-will-come-in-time

Thanks for posting that, Max17. Nice to have an age approximation.


ETA: thanks to LilTexan too!

 

[necco]

Glad I am not the only person who thinks the sketch is pretty bad.

It seems like we should be on the lookout for Wooly Willy.

 

[Fireweed]

If questioning those closest to a missing kid is not decent, how are police supposed to find missing persons? I mean, LE is damned if they do and damned if they don't in these cases. He was questioned. It doesn't sound like the boy was screamed at or accused. Just questioned. How is that improper?

Of course they need to question them. I am saying that from dad's point of view, he was not treated right. That means that he is now an angry, frustrated person with a bone to pick. I looked at his statements and it seems to me that he believes that he was not treated properly. Now, maybe he is just a total nutcase, but everything he said in that article sounded perfectly reasonable to me.

P.S. if they did take the son off to "show them places in the woods where he and Abby went" and then the investigators started asking the son questions, such as "do you think your father did it?" (paraphrasing), then I would be furious too. And no, it is not acceptable to question a minor like under the auspices of doing something else not related to being questioned. I would be livid if I were him too, and I would 100% agree with his complaints of not being treated decently by LE.

 

[momrids6]

so, "They texted, she just sent him a smiley face"....is the heart she supposedly sent last- was it sent to him or not I wonder. I am on the fence about the 6:30 phone call too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...veals-moment-spared-ordeal.html#ixzz38W03Ng5w

 

[Bodhi]

Did you not read the article? He had no choice but to be inserted into the case. Explaining what has happened to him with regard to this case does not prevent LE from doing their job and it is not a violation of the family's privacy.

I don't understand how telling a British sensationalist rag about the possible sex lives of two minor children in great detail not a violation of their privacy. He violated Zenya's confidence and request for privacy by broadcasting her private interactions with him while her daughter was missing.

I realize his son has been traumatized. I get how hard that would be for a parent. But it is obvious this man has boundary issues.

Why would Zenya respond to his attempts to communicate now when what she has asked for is privacy and time to let LE conduct their investigation. She might as well talk directly to the National Enquirer.

 

[Bodhi]

At 14 or 15, every relationship is serious to them. At that age, things are so immediate, so intense and vastly important. Puppylove is one of the purest forms of love on earth. (I'm not addressing the level of physicality the relationship may have had because they are two kids and I feel that discussing that is inappropriate, especially since their relationship seems to have nothing to do with the case. They deserve privacy from the public on that matter.)

My opinion, of course.

I feel bad for young JC because of what he has gone through. It isn't odd that young teens are so invested in their relationship. What's odd is that the boy's father is so invested in it and feels the need to tell the world. I agree with you, necco. I am going to try not to discuss JC any more.

 

[Eileen730]

I feel so sorry for the son in this case. This must have been traumatizing for him. His girlfriend vanishes and then he gets asked all about sex and whether he thinks his father did it.

Again, I can completely see why the father wants answers right now. I know, I know...he is wrong and should just give Abby and her family privacy and it is really none of his business and he should just be patient and let LE do their job. Did I do that right?

I think this father has every right to know!
His son was very involved in this and they deserve answers.
they ask if they were having sex.
If they were buying pregnancy tests at the pharmacy.
This family needs closure also. This young man went thru a lot in those 9 months!
He needs to hear the truth!

JMO

 

[liljim]

I don't understand how telling a British sensationalist rag about the possible sex lives of two minor children in great detail not a violation of their privacy. He violated Zenya's confidence and request for privacy by broadcasting her private interactions with him while her daughter was missing.

I realize his son has been traumatized. I get how hard that would be for a parent. But it is obvious this man has boundary issues.

Why would Zenya respond to his attempts to communicate now when what she has asked for is privacy and time to let LE conduct their investigation. She might as well talk directly to the National Enquirer.

i thought he said "i didnt know they were having sex and i would have stopped it if i did" ? i might have missed something.

 

[newguy123]

I think I would say to LE if you have the video, show it to me please, then we'll talk. But all that is a side issue to Abby being missing and how it all happened, and who is the guy in the truck and where she was etc. I do like to think of all this as a duck swimming....above the water all is calm, not much going on.....but underneath I'll bet LE metaphorical duck feet are paddling away a mile a minute. I'm sure they all want to get to the bottom of it.

 

[momrids6]

It is difficult to get needed counseling and services to victims. It is even more diffcult for the folks who suffered collateral damage to get, as there are no free services available to them. I try to remember that many suffer through only one may be named "victim".

 

[liltexans]

i thought he said "i didnt know they were having sex and i would have stopped it if i did" ? i might have missed something.

James explained: 'The cops asked me if I knew whether Jimmy and Abby were having sex. I said, "If I knew I would have put a stop to it and if I caught them, I would put my foot in both their a***s". But, they are both kids and kids will be kids.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...veals-moment-spared-ordeal.html#ixzz38WqOOZUi
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[georgiasblu]

It's not unusual for someone held captive to feel sympathy or a bond, albeit a unnatural one towards the one who keeps you.

 

[CatFancier]

Personally, speaking as a poster here, I've always though many of the peripheral players in this case (and of course, many others) get too much attention which just takes away from the victim. To make this all so public just re-victimizes her.

 

[momrids6]

Personally, speaking as a poster here, I've always though many of the peripheral players in this case (and of course, many others) get too much attention which just takes away from the victim. To make this all so public just re-victimizes her.

I think some have gone about it the wrong way- but feel its a misguided way of crying out for attention to their needs, and feelings of being wronged, dismissed, blamed, forgotten.

 

[tlcya]

Taking a break. I realize thanks to BF's dad the sex lives of minors in what is considered MSM is now apparently up for discussion. I want no part of it.

Good night.

 

[liltexans]

Right To Privacy Or Right To Know?

What exactly are we dealing with when it comes to the case of New Hampshire teen Abigail Hernandez, who went missing for 9 months and mysteriously reappeared last weekend? At first the family and law enforcement enlisted the help of the media. Now, though, they don’t want to answer any questions. It’s a classic face-off between the right to privacy and the right to know.

video at link:
http://wgbhnews.org/post/right-privacy-or-right-know

 

[margarita25]

'We just want the truth': Father of Abigail Hernandez's boyfriend demands answers over where teenager was for nine months and reveals the moment she could have been spared her ordeal



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...veals-moment-spared-ordeal.html#ixzz38W03Ng5w
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Also from this link:

"On Friday, the District Attorney's office revealed that police had received 20 tips from members of the public, following the release of the sketch.

'All I want is the truth, I don’t care what happened, but I want to know who the sons of b*****s were who had her for nine months'
- James Campbell
Despite conducting a three-hour interview with the teen, it is unclear whether they know where she was or if she was taken by force.
They have also appealed for witnesses who may have seen Abby return after she was apparently dropped off on the same road that she was possibly abducted from all those months ago.
Sources close to the investigation said the teenager has so far not been able to tell officers many facts about her disappearance.
But they are convinced a crime has been committed - as they believe there is no way the 15-year-old could have stayed hidden and remained healthy for nine months without some kind of adult involvement."

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BBM:

"'He had seen her at school. Everything was fine. They usually get the bus home together, but apparently she wanted to go to the store that day so she walked."

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BBM:

"One line of questioning James says the police were taking very seriously was whether Abby had left town because she had fallen pregnant.
Since her return, sources close to the investigation have told MailOnline that they do not believe Abby has had a baby."