GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #12

[mpnola]

http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/local-news/115496-ag-says-answers-in-abby-case-will-come-in-time

Good enough! I am glad they are letting people know the answers aren't being withheld for "privacy". They are just still working on them. I think that is a good step. And also, giving an age range is an EXCELLENT step!

 

[liltexans]

Good enough! I am glad they are letting people know the answers aren't being withheld for "privacy". They are just still working on them. I think that is a good step. And also, giving an age range is an EXCELLENT step!

I agree. I think LE is still trying to figure out exactly what kind of case this is. The age range is definitely helpful for the public in helping to identify the man in the sketch.

 

[mpnola]

At 14 or 15, every relationship is serious to them. At that age, things are so immediate, so intense and vastly important. Puppylove is one of the purest forms of love on earth. (I'm not addressing the level of physicality the relationship may have had because they are two kids and I feel that discussing that is inappropriate, especially since their relationship seems to have nothing to do with the case. They deserve privacy from the public on that matter.)


My opinion, of course.

I have 3 siblings that married the person they began dating at age 14. 2 of them are still together (one brother is 44 and the other is 34) and my sister (38) just got divorced last year. Some very significant and lasting relationships come from young age. I have witnessed it first hand! A relationship cannot be diminished just because of an age.

 

[Jacie Estes]

@Bring Abby Home

Updated info. Age on male is mid to late 40s. https://www.facebook.com/bringabbyhome

[will post link when I have it]

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

i was 14 once. when i was 14 i called it dating. what i was really doing was writing notes back and forth in class and believing i was sooo in love.

i was 14. no one was taking me out on "dates" but i would refer to it as "dating". so would my friends and family. because i was 14, and it sounded so grown up and cool.

I agree and I was the same at 14 but my "boyfriend's" family would never had alluded to the fact that their son and I were in love or a serious relationship. That is the part that I find so odd-JH acting like they were in love, in a serious relationship and that is son is heartbroken. Heartbroken maybe in a puppy love way but definitely not in a grownup way. JH acts like this was a grownup relationship and I find that very odd. MOO

 

[necco]

Regardless of how their relationship is being classified, the boyfriend is both a minor and a victim (like any significant other of a victim would be on this board) and it feels very judgmental and inappropriate to me to discuss the seriousness of their love. To him, it was heartbreaking and that's what matters. Just because someone else might be more heartbroken at a different age doesn't make him less heartbroken. He lost his love and his friend for 9 months. And with that, I am no longer going to comment on the bf.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Strictly my opinion but to me all signs point to Abby leaving voluntarily, regretting it soon after the fact and being too embarrassed or ashamed to return. IMO no heinous crime(abduction, sexual predator, etc)was committed here but any adult that harbors a juvenile and keeps them from their family deserves punishment.

I think most of the confusion can be attributed to Abby's hesitance to " fess up". I am in no way bashing or blaming her. I did lots of stupid stuff and put my parents through hell when I was her age so if this is the case I can relate.

Just my theory and I have been wrong many times before. Kimster, if this is seen as victim blaming please zap me. It is truly not my intent.

I've been getting this feeling also. If so, the question remains was she coerced, groomed or what exactly? Late 40s? Either way if this 40 year old male housed her and kept her from her family for all these months it is still a crime. We just don't know to what extent and Abby is a child and children are easily coerced. I do wonder if maybe she is not being forthcoming with information and trying to protect him to some extent. It will all come out eventually. It sounds like it might be in this persons best interest to come forward on his own.

 

[Fireweed]

Yeah, thankfully they at least gave us an age-range. At least they are addressing the fact that the public is getting frustrated with how this is being handled so far.

 

[kittychi]

I am wondering if anyone has come forward to the FBI to claim the $20,000 reward money.

Also, if she was out if school that long, she will need to repeat her grade, poor kid. I am so glad she is safe!

 

[tlcya]

Regardless of how their relationship is being classified, the boyfriend is both a minor and a victim (like any significant other of a victim would be on this board) and it feels very judgmental and inappropriate to me to discuss the seriousness of their love. To him, it was heartbreaking and that's what matters. Just because someone else might be more heartbroken at a different age doesn't make him less heartbroken. He lost his love and his friend for 9 months. And with that, I am no longer going to comment on the bf.

I wholeheartedly agree. I am going one step farther. Out of respect for Abby and the request of her family, I am choosing to opt out of discussing comments made in MSM by the father of Abby's minor boyfriend quite simply because I am irritated by his continuing to IMO insert himself into this case. His comments in the recently linked daily mail article fly in the face of the family request to let LE do their jobs and give them privacy.

 

[Fireweed]

I wholeheartedly agree. I am going one step farther. Out of respect for Abby and the request of her family, I am choosing to opt out of discussing comments made in MSM by the father of Abby's minor boyfriend quite simply because I am irritated by his continuing to IMO insert himself into this case. His comments in the recently linked daily mail article fly in the face of the family request to let LE do their jobs and give them privacy.

Did you not read the article? He had no choice but to be inserted into the case. Explaining what has happened to him with regard to this case does not prevent LE from doing their job and it is not a violation of the family's privacy.

 

[CuriousGuy]

I've been getting this feeling also. If so, the question remains was she coerced, groomed or what exactly? Late 40s? Either way if this 40 year old male housed her and kept her from her family for all these months it is still a crime. We just don't know to what extent and Abby is a child and children are easily coerced. I do wonder if maybe she is not being forthcoming with information and trying to protect him to some extent. It will all come out eventually. It sounds like it might be in this persons best interest to come forward on his own.

In my theory I'm not convinced it was romance based on Abby's part. Maybe a " you have too much stress, nobody understands you, you need to get away from there" kind of deal.

Abby disappearing on the one day she decides to not ride the bus is just too coincidental to me.

 

[momrids6]

@Bring Abby Home

Updated info. Age on male is mid to late 40s. https://www.facebook.com/bringabbyhome

[will post link when I have it]

hair color would be nice....

 

[Bodhi]

I respectfully disagree with you on that, Fireweed (post 271 on prev page). It sounds to me that the investigators treated the family properly. Of course, no one wants to be treated as a suspect. So I can understand his resentment.

JC proclaimed when Abigail went missing that she spent most of her time with his family. Of course, the Cs had to be investigated thoroughly and ruled in or out. We don't know if Abby really was with them as much as he said or whether accounts from others differed. We don't know how Abigail felt about JC or what she may have confided to others that may have piqued investigators' interest.

It sounds like LE did what they should do--physically separate the individuals and interview them individually. Having the son show them her special places identified and ruled out those areas. And it built rapport. If the son knew or suspected his father was involved or if the boy had some knowledge of Abby's plans or whereabouts that he had not shared, he'd be freer to talk. Interviewing him as they walked through the woods to accomplish a task would make it easier for the son to disclose any information he had. It's a more comfortable approach than staring across a table in a sterile interview room.

Investigators needed to determine if this man (who made himself the public face of the disappearance in the first few days) was obsessed with Abby and involved in her disappearance or whether he was a genuinely distraught guy who considered himself a father figure to her. Telling him that the kids were on video buying a pregnancy test would explore why she may have decided to leave--was she pregnant or being abused. And if JC was more than a father figure to Abby, they could gauge his reaction to the news.

I understand why JC would resent the way the Cs were treated. Anyone would. But from a law enforcement standpoint, it sounds like they handled the investigation of the Cs well.

 

[momrids6]

I am wondering if anyone has come forward to the FBI to claim the $20,000 reward money.

Also, if she was out if school that long, she will need to repeat her grade, poor kid. I am so glad she is safe!

Isn't it 60,000? Not being snarky-only going by what's been written...

The parents of missing teen Abby Hernandez have increased the reward for information leading to the return of their daughter by a combined $40,000. That $40,000 is on top of the $20,000 reward already being offered by the FBI.

http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/local-news/113102-abby-s-parents-increase-reward-to-60-000

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

BBM

Wagner said if there were a criminal defendant in this case, that person would not be asked to pay restitution since the police are paid to solve cases anyway.

"It's what we do," said Wagner. "It's our job."
http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/...t-in-abby-case

Yes, that's why I believe it has nothing to do with tax dollars.

 

[Jacie Estes]

Students may want to "test out" of high school for a number of reasons. Gifted students may wish to proceed directly to more challenging courses of study at college. Teens who need to support their families financially might wish to begin a career. Young adults who receive home-schooling might have finished coursework early. The American Council on Education administers the General Educational Development tests, a series of five exams that confer a high school graduate equivalency on any individual who passes the exams. Students who meet the requirement of their state can take the GED to test out of high school.

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/how_7872373_test-out-high-school.html

I am wondering if anyone has come forward to the FBI to claim the $20,000 reward money.

Also, if she was out if school that long, she will need to repeat her grade, poor kid. I am so glad she is safe!

 

[CrystalAnn]

Did you not read the article? He had no choice but to be inserted into the case. Explaining what has happened to him with regard to this case does not prevent LE from doing their job and it is not a violation of the family's privacy.

If a missing girl spent a lot of time in my home, and was dating my child, i would expect to be one of the first people authorities question and would not be offended in the least. I would be happy that she is home and I would give her and her family time to cope with everything. I would NOT be angry and give out sensitive info to reporters. It is not my child, nor my place to speak for them.

 

[inthedark14]

Did you not read the article? He had no choice but to be inserted into the case. Explaining what has happened to him with regard to this case does not prevent LE from doing their job and it is not a violation of the family's privacy.

BF's dad gave details of the investigation that were not previously disclosed to the public. Such as the BF saw her walking home while he was on the bus. I feel bad that these people had to go through being treated (from what they say) badly by LE, but it always the closest people to the missing person who are looked at first. He violated the family's privacy by discussing what ZH had (from what he said) communicated to him only days ago. Throwing in there that BF has moved on and now has a new GF was really classy too. IMVHO.

It's awful that this family who was so close to AH feels that they have been slighted by LE, but running to the Daily Mail isn't really the best way to handle that.

ALWAYS MOO

 

[tlcya]

Did you not read the article? He had no choice but to be inserted into the case. Explaining what has happened to him with regard to this case does not prevent LE from doing their job and it is not a violation of the family's privacy.

yes, I have read it. I feel differently but am opting not to further explain why and just agreeing to disagree.