Found Deceased NH - Celina Cass, 11, Stewartstown, 25 July 2011 # 5 *Arrest*

[katydid23]

Respectfully snipped from this article (and BBM) - I found this part very interesting:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=14218985



Why do you guys think they examined its undercarriage - unless she was run over? That's the only reason I can think of.

In the Caylee case the botanist examined leaves found in the under carriage of the Pontiac. The DT tried to say it was important that they were not found in the area of the dump site.

 

[Kiln Wood]

Me too... I was thinking about the white truck too... I'm so sad that we have no news on Lauren =[

As for this case, if it was the SF, I'm sure the police knows by now. And I think that might just be the case. It seems like a psychotic episode. Also, putting her in a white blanket is kind of a "nurturing" thing... I'm thinking the SF did this and he is probably not well. I wish people with mental illnesses had better care to avoid these situations...

BBM

The SF has access to the finest healthcare in the country at the White River Junction (Vermont) VA Medical Center; I am speaking about an affiliation to Dartmouth Medical School and the University of Vermont Medical School, and truly dedicated, caring medical and medical support personnel; WRJVAMC truly represents the best healthcare available (to anyone, anywhere--wish I were eligible).

Whether the SF chose to use his VA healthcare benefits at this facility (or any other) is not known to me, but I believe it is the closest VAMC to Stewartstown; if he is unable to drive there, the Disabled American Veterans will send a van to pick him up and take him there, or a DAV member will drive him there and back; there is no charge to the patient, and the DAV will not solicit money from him for this service or anything else; I don't even believe the DAV will accept money for this service if it is offered.

Hope this information helps put things in better perspective.

 

[k4kathy]

Respectfully snipped from this article (and BBM) - I found this part very interesting:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=14218985



Why do you guys think they examined its undercarriage - unless she was run over? That's the only reason I can think of.

Grass,weeds,leaves ,soil,etc from the general crime scene area can be embedded/stuck in area underneath the truck, soil/rocks could be imbedded in tire treads placing that truck in that area.

 

[Pensfan]

Thanks, Pixie, for the updated info. I am relieved that KL spent a couple of hours with her father. I must reiterate that AL and his parents seem rather passive. AL said KL called him and came to visit him. AL's mother doesn't understand why LN has not reached out to them. Maybe because her child was just murdered and her husband has been hospitalized! I would expect the parents of the noncustodial father would reach out to LN and ask what they could do to help her in making funeral arrangements. LN must just be devastated beyond belief. And it seems like she would need help with the logistics and finances of a funeral and burial.

A close family friend states that LN needs the utmost privacy.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...-new-hampshire-investigation_n.htm?csp=34news

Close family friend Jeanine Brady, the employer of Celina's mother, Louisa Noyes, said the girl's body has been turned over to the family and a service is being planned. Brady declined to say where or when the service would be held. She said it will be private. Brady said Noyes has been surrounded by her family since Celina's disappearance.

"She needed the utmost privacy," Brady said.

 

[elmomom]

BBM

The SF has access to the finest healthcare in the country at the White River Junction (Vermont) VA Medical Center; I am speaking about an affiliation to Dartmouth Medical School and the University of Vermont Medical School, and truly dedicated, caring medical and medical support personnel; WRJVAMC truly represents the best healthcare available (to anyone, anywhere--wish I were eligible).

Whether the SF chose to use his VA healthcare benefits at this facility (or any other) is not known to me, but I believe it is the closest VAMC to Stewartstown; if he is unable to drive there, the Disabled American Veterans will send a van to pick him up and take him there, or a DAV member will drive him there and back; there is no charge to the patient, and the DAV will not solicit money from him for this service or anything else; I don't even believe the DAV will accept money for this service if it is offered.

Hope this information helps put things in better perspective.

Thanks for the info. It's been my thinking that SF has done fairly well for having such a devastating illness. He started and maintained a new relationship, and married. He seemed to function well, and the sentiment I hear from others - even AL in his interview - seemed to think he was ok. I think this points to the fact he probably was receiving high quality care.

 

[peace9274]

To those veterans who read this post, thank you for your service to our country and to Vietnam veterans, welcome home!

RSBM

Thanx, KW. for the great & informative post!

 

[k4kathy]

The police would tarp it down like that to make sure none of the contents in the truck bed would be lost and fly out.

IMO

Okay this is the first year this body style came out 2005 supercrew F-150.

 

[Magdalyn]

thanks I hadn't read that article. As far as her name, AL has said that he left the home when KL was 3. The would mean CC was either a baby, or maybe if the age is approximate, she was just born. Cass is her Mom's maiden name.

Maybe they were already kinda on the outs when Celina was born and the mom chose not to use his name for the baby's last name on the birth certificate?

 

[lowa1]

On this facebook there is a person on the top of the page asking for the number to the tip line. I can't figure out how to post, can someone please give that person the number. NEVERMIND, they removed their post requesting the number.

Thanks

No I just looked and the post is still up. Actually it was gone and back again. Says person is from California...

 

[Kiln Wood]

Wrapping in a blanket does not seem necessarily contradicting because of the murder to me. I have seen or read before that a lot of child murders are done by people who are so twisted that they DO care about the child even if they murder them. Like, pedophiles will abuse and kill a child, yet wrap them in soft blankets and weep over them. If it was an accident or a truly sick individual I can see how they could be responsible for her death and still truly love her.

Of course, just conjecture since I haven't read to see if the blanket has been confirmed just yet.

This, for some reason, has hit me very hard. I see a bunch of potential suspects, but the actual perpetrator(s) need to be found and punished. I will be heart-broken if justice isn't served.

BBM

Please keep the faith: This is the State of New Hampshire we're discussing here, and this is Attorney Jane Young on the job at her best (for clarification go back and read the old WS threads pertaining to Krista Dittmeyer if you have the time and the interest).

 

[katydid23]

I do wonder... with mom in a wheelchair? SF an alleged schizophrenic & CC scared to sleep alone in the basement if she may not have tried out some of the adults medications...in the past. It's still not COD .I doubt that she died accidentally and that was covered up!
It seems really odd to have the 23yo in her room and her in the basement. FOR A YEAR?
moo...if my litle girl is 11yo. (especially for a year!) SHE is sleeping UPSTAIRS! as well as the 13yo sister EVEN if they have to share a room.
Not that I would not trust him.. but I would not trust his friends etc.
If he was a problem... too bad! He's an adult- so he sneaks off-
the girls were too young to be put elsewhere. IMHO.
23yo downstairs period.

THANK YOU. My feelings and thoughts exactly.

And I could be wrong, but I remember some info from back in the beginning of the case. And it was stated that the family apt. was on 3 levels, and the bedrooms were UPSTAIRS. So Mom was 2 floors up every night. That is scary to me. I know I am not always objective, but imo, a young child's room should be pretty close by the parent's room. ESPECIALLY if a 23 yr old, newly released from prison, is moving into the home.

 

[epiphany]

Laro was in the hospital because of a heart condition when Cass disappeared from her home. He said he was not contacted by Cass’s mother, who had custody of the child. Instead, he turned on the television and saw his daughter’s school photo on the morning news.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrod...a-cass-home/nPTZjSGdVsSyTLZ4XFWtlM/index.html

 

[k4kathy]

huh? no that truck is SF's. KM is the one with the old beater red pick up.

Sorry, I was making a joke.... someone had posted something about WN stealing 7 vehicles .... while another person was wondering how WN could afford such a nice truck.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Could this part of NHH be why WN is in there? I think so. Just hearing family saying they wish they could talk but can't, the speculation of where everyone is staying, the silver truck that WN drove mostly hauled away... I'm not eliminating any others but lean towards this being a possibility and he was kicked to the curb literally?

NHH also provides management services for the transitional housing services program where individuals with limited community placement options can live in a residential setting with appropriate treatment

Most people are admitted to NHH on an involuntary basis because they have been found to be dangerous to themselves or others. Fewer people are admitted voluntarily for the same reasons. NHH works closely with the community mental health center system in the continuum of care for all patients at the Hospital.

http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dcbcs/nhh/index.htm

From Pensfan post thx

 

[mck16]

Okay this is the first year this body style came out 2005 supercrew F-150.

I thought the truck was a Chevrolet. F150 is a Ford.

 

[elmomom]

Sorry, I was making a joke.... someone had posted something about WN stealing 7 vehicles .... while another person was wondering how WN could afford such a nice truck.

no no - WN didn't steal the vehicles, KM did! That's what was wrong, I got the joke, and it would have been funny...

 

[gngr~snap]

THANK YOU. My feelings and thoughts exactly.

And I could be wrong, but I remember some info from back in the beginning of the case. And it was stated that the family apt. was on 3 levels, and the bedrooms were UPSTAIRS. So Mom was 2 floors up every night. That is scary to me. I know I am not always objective, but imo, a young child's room should be pretty close by the parent's room.

ESPECIALLY if a 23 yr old, newly released from prison, is moving into the home

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I was not aware of this... sounds like they possibly were babysitting him
With no floor plan of the home I can only guess

 

[mck16]

THANK YOU. My feelings and thoughts exactly.

And I could be wrong, but I remember some info from back in the beginning of the case. And it was stated that the family apt. was on 3 levels, and the bedrooms were UPSTAIRS. So Mom was 2 floors up every night. That is scary to me. I know I am not always objective, but imo, a young child's room should be pretty close by the parent's room. ESPECIALLY if a 23 yr old, newly released from prison, is moving into the home.

Oh dear. I am so far behind. I didn't know he was imprisoned. And I sure didn't know he had just been released. Where is that posted. tia

 

[elmomom]

I was not aware of this... sounds like they possibly were babysitting him
With no floor plan of the home I can only guess

Sounds like Mom liked to "mother", imho. SF had an illness and KM got out of jail, and she took him in...

 

[elmomom]

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Oh dear. I am so far behind. I didn't know he was imprisoned. And I sure didn't know he had just been released. Where is that posted. tia

I'll find you a link in a minute. For now here's some info, he has been living there for about a year (longer than the Noyes have been married apparently). He was guilty of stealing cars... no violence.