Found Deceased NH - Celina Cass, 11, Stewartstown, 25 July 2011 # 7 *Arrest*

[concentric]

Remember this case?

http://a11news.com/2035/nevaeh-buchanan-body-found/

Police said that Nevaeh Buchanan body found on June 4, 2009 by two fisherman who poked at a smelly patch of concrete until a chip broke away and they could see human skin underneath.

Ryan Bickley, 15, said his father, Guy Bickley, found the body yesterday when he was by the river fishing with his grandfather around 11 a.m.

 

[mck16]

Thanks Elmomom! You are right. Mr. Laro's comment about the basement was not in relation to Kevin M moving in specifically (or anyone else for that matter). He mentioned the basement in two interviews that I found; one of them mentioned lots of people coming in and out of the house, along with the move to the basement (which he says was recent, but no time reference to what he considers recent). Neither statement mentions the girls being moved for anyone else though; it doesn't appear that he asked or knows why they were in the cellar, imo...

Reference 1:
http://www.massdailynews.com/news/b...-celina-cass-checks-into-mental-hospital.html

Celina’s biological father, Adam Laro, says he never noticed anything strange at the house, until the last time he visited her.

He says recently, Celina and her sister were sleeping in the basement.

“It seems odd to me, very odd. Here they had two beautiful rooms and a nice place to live all of a sudden things got changed by certain people who I won’t name,” says Laro. “Now all of a sudden they’re staying on an air mattress on the cellar floor, to me it’s kind of crazy.”

Reference 2:
http://www.wcax.com/story/15202964/pickup-taken-from-home-of-celina-cass

"It wasn't a good atmosphere over there," Laro said. "There were a lot of people in and out of that place and a lot of faces every time I went over there."

Laro says he voluntarily gave up custody of Celina, but was allowed to visit her. He says he never noticed anything that concerning, but he says he recently found out that Celina's bedroom, which she shared with her sister, was moved to the basement.

"The next thing I know they are staying on an air mattress on the cellar floor," he said. "Staying down in the cellar and to me it's like, why would they do that?"

It's just one question this grieving father has about his late daughter.

According to those articles you are right. But now I am wondering where did the story that KM took their bedroom and that is why they were moved to the basement? I know I have seen that posted along with the thought that he was paying rent to them. Maybe just more speculation since there are so few facts. tia

 

[bstnh1]

I'm not putting too much faith in what AL has said. In one instance he said CC and her sister has two beautiful rooms. Later he said they shared a bedroom. I'm sure he's on a lot of meds and they could be clouding his thoughts.

 

[Valleyboy]

Remember this case?

http://a11news.com/2035/nevaeh-buchanan-body-found/

Police said that Nevaeh Buchanan body found on June 4, 2009 by two fisherman who poked at a smelly patch of concrete until a chip broke away and they could see human skin underneath.

Ryan Bickley, 15, said his father, Guy Bickley, found the body yesterday when he was by the river fishing with his grandfather around 11 a.m.

Can't forget that case and I check every couple days hoping that someone will finally be charged with her death.

 

[nosysw]

I asked in an earlier post (no response or answer) if where CC's body was found was a static pool, or if the body had not been found would it have moved further up stream or down which ever the case, and even across the dam. I too am curious as to why they were in that particular spot. Were they tipped off to look there? That is a long river and if they were not tipped off they certainly were lucky to be there. tia

I thought I read that she was found less than half a mile from the house...wouldn't it be SOP to check the rivers, starting at the closest point to the house and moving farther away? If the body wasn't well hidden, I would think it would be inevitable to find it if this were the case...not familiar with the area though...are there like a bazillion rivers and/or bodies of water around?

<modsnip>:waitasec:

 

[chief]

I knew he was in the hospital because he stated that LN brought the girls to see him. But, do you think LN has facts surrounding the case other than what has been reported? She gave them the time CC was last seen, and the time SF found her gone. I guess she could shed some light on who was in the home that night or morning, who lived there etc. But, I don't see how that could harm the case. Interesting though. jmo

One more thought, what AL has said has certainly created some speculation. e.g. that the girls were moved to the basement, sleeping on air mattresses. I don't remember who said that CC was afraid to sleep on the couch when her sis was gone. But these statements have certainly aroused speculations.

BBM... IIRC, I think what was said is that Celina was afraid to sleep in the basement when her sister was not home, so she slept on the couch upstairs.

 

[nosysw]

BBM... IIRC, I think what was said is that Celina was afraid to sleep in the basement when her sister was not home, so she slept on the couch upstairs.

It was said that her aunt said it (don't have the quote)...later we read that an aunt lived in the house (don't know if it was the same apartment or another within the house and again don't have the quote)...so maybe she was the aunt who said this...she would have certainly been close enough to know.

 

[concentric]

I thought I read that she was found less than half a mile from the house...wouldn't it be SOP to check the rivers, starting at the closest point to the house and moving farther away? If the body wasn't well hidden, I would think it would be inevitable to find it if this were the case...not familiar with the area though...are there like a bazillion rivers and/or bodies of water around?

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I bolded the above part of your post. Someone on here asked something to the effect of if there was a reason why the LE divers would discontinue their search in another part of the river, and immediately move to the dam, what might that reason be? And I think I offered a reasonable suggestion.

I never thought the investigation was any more than a logical progression in the search of the river.

 

[Joe Friday]

IIRC, we knew about the girls sleeping in the basement before AL mentioned it in one of his interviews.

Celina's aunt was the one that stated Celina was afraid to sleep downstairs by herself and that since Celina's sister was at a friends for a sleep over Celina likely slept on the couch. Not sure if this would be LN's sister or how she was related to Celina.


IN the last day or so we have found out that the aunt also lives in the same house as Celina did and all the rest of the people that are involved in this case.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Very good overview article of the case so far with good photos: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ro-seriously-ill-death.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

If you look at the picture of CC and her two friends, that she posted on FB, you can see the ceiling, it is a dropped ceiling, with grids and acoustic tiles, also has paneling on the walls.
Also the picture of CC in the hat, with lips closed also you can see paneling in the background.
I believe both of these pictures were taken in her bedroom (basement) I would not think, any other room in that house, would have a ceiling like that, except a finished basement.

 

[yllek]

According to those articles you are right. But now I am wondering where did the story that KM took their bedroom and that is why they were moved to the basement? I know I have seen that posted along with the thought that he was paying rent to them. Maybe just more speculation since there are so few facts. tia

I think it's possible that Mr. Laro's statement that the girls were moved to the basement and the fact that Kevin M was living in the house were reported around the same time, so speculative links were made by posters everywhere and it's getting harder to separate fact from speculation. JMO.

 

[elmomom]

BBM... IIRC, I think what was said is that Celina was afraid to sleep in the basement when her sister was not home, so she slept on the couch upstairs.

I believe that statement was attributed to her Aunt, who, we have more recently heard, lives at the same house. (probably in a different apartment.)

 

[Joe Friday]

I asked in an earlier post (no response or answer) if where CC's body was found was a static pool, or if the body had not been found would it have moved further up stream or down which ever the case, and even across the dam. I too am curious as to why they were in that particular spot. Were they tipped off to look there? That is a long river and if they were not tipped off they certainly were lucky to be there. tia

BBM

It seems that this is the only access point to the river and dam, so that might have been the most logical place to look. There might be other access points on the other side of the river too, but as far as along Hwy 3 I didn't see anywhere else you would have easy access to the river by car while looking at Google Street View Maps.

 

[nosysw]

If you look at the picture of CC and her two friends, that she posted on FB, you can see the ceiling, it is a dropped ceiling, with grids and acoustic tiles, also has paneling on the walls.
Also the picture of CC in the hat, with lips closed also you can see paneling in the background.
I believe both of these pictures were taken in her bedroom (basement) I would not think, any other room in that house, would have a ceiling like that, except a finished basement.

You probably are right about where the pictures were taken but possibly could be at a friend's house as the kids tend to tag each other in photos and share them...Also, sometimes when a ceiling is messed up it can be quicker and easier to put up these type of drop ceilings and I have seen them in other houses in other rooms, especially apartments...often in kitchens and bathrooms...I believe they are illegal now, not that that really matters...(and maybe that's just where I'm from)...

Great pictures in this article...very clear. Thanks!

 

[bstnh1]

I believe that statement was attributed to her Aunt, who, we have more recently heard, lives at the same house. (probably in a different apartment.)

That is correct - CC's aunt said that.

 

[concentric]

My questions are: 1. Who decided to let KM live in the house and why? 2. Are certain people now regretting that decision and why?

 

[nosysw]

I know...I put that on my quote of the quote, lol! Sometimes the quotes on the threads start getting messed up for some reason...

 

[concentric]

Just for clarification, the below quote is from

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I asked in an earlier post (no response or answer) if where CC's body was found was a static pool, or if the body had not been found would it have moved further up stream or down which ever the case, and even across the dam. I too am curious as to why they were in that particular spot. Were they tipped off to look there? That is a long river and if they were not tipped off they certainly were lucky to be there. tia

 

[bstnh1]

Most hydro dams (if not all) have a spillway over which water that is not needed to drive the turbines flows. Often booms are placed a short distance upstream to prevent large floating debris from getting hung up on the top of the spillway. The inlets for the water that passes through the turbines is way down below the surface and to prevent non-floating debris from entering the turbines a guard of sorts is placed just upstream of the inlets. A submerged body would not be able to flow through the turbines and continue on downstream. The dam would be a logical place to search since anything moving downstream would most likely be stopped there.

If you Google "how a hydro dam works" you'll see a good diagram that depicts what's below the surface.

 

[nosysw]

Concentric- I think we're cross posting and messing up the quotes even more, lol!