NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 #15

[sony12]

Maura's sister has said that this isn't the first time something like this has happened. It's probably just routine to inform the families of people who went missing when something like this happens just in the off chance it does wind up being connected.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

There are lots of things that happen that don't make headlines (and remains that are found that they don't believe is connected to any crime usually isn't something that they make too big of a deal about). Infact it doesn't really seem like this was ever intended to be connected to Maura anyways. The only real reason it got connected to her to begin with is because Renner heard about it and started tweeting.

Remember the initial break about this wasn't any news article. It was a Renner tweet.

Except it's already in the media. The cat's out of the bag. It isn't like this happened and no one learned about it and the PD quietly did DNA testing. It was widely reported by local media regardless of how it began. It isn't going away.

 

[sony12]

Except it's already in the media. The cat's out of the bag. It isn't like this happened and no one learned about it and the PD quietly did DNA testing. It was widely reported by local media regardless of how it began. It isn't going away.

Just because we have a nosy society doesn't mean that they have to be catered to. The only people that really have any business hearing about the results is the family of the missing person. It will probably be up to them to make it public.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Just because we have a nosy society doesn't mean that they have to be catered to. The only people that really have any business hearing about the results is the family of the missing person. It will probably be up to them to make it public.

Have to disagree. This isn't about being a "nosy society." A young woman disappears. We don't know if foul play is involved or not, though most suspect it is. Taxpayer dollars goes into the search, investigation, AND public safety. Why? Because a disappearance/potential murder is a public safety issue. Bones are discovered. Is is Maura? If so, then again, as taxpayers in the region and potential safety matter, it IS the public's right to know, at least in that area/region. Is it not Maura? Then whose is it? Because again, taxpayer dollars are going to go into discovering that AND if there's foul play, then there's still a public safety issue AND whoever it is deserves to be identified and their family notified. How is it no one's business??

 

[Alethea]

Just because we have a nosy society doesn't mean that they have to be catered to. The only people that really have any business hearing about the results is the family of the missing person. It will probably be up to them to make it public.

Before it became national news it was blasted out as a news alert by my local news just that there were bones found on Loon Mountain - no connection to Maura mentioned. There are other missing people in NH/VT/ME so I think the state police will give an update one way or another once they have some answers.

 

[sony12]

Before it became national news it was blasted out as a news alert by my local news just that there were bones found on Loon Mountain - no connection to Maura mentioned. There are other missing people in NH/VT/ME so I think the state police will give an update one way or another once they have some answers.

That's the only time I think they have an obligation to report findings publicly is when they announced it publicly on their own. Not when people like Renner heard about it and started tweeting or when online media looking for headlines wrote their articles.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

That's the only time I think they have an obligation to report findings publicly is when they announced it publicly on their own. Not when people like Renner heard about it and started tweeting or when online media looking for headlines wrote their articles.

But I mean, no one has made the case that they have to follow up just because Renner heard about it. The manner of how it became public is irrelevant. The point is that it's something that directly affects the community so yeah, they need to follow up.

 

[sony12]

But I mean, no one has made the case that they have to follow up just because Renner heard about it. The manner of how it became public is irrelevant. The point is that it's something that directly affects the community so yeah, they need to follow up.

Well we will just have to agree to disagree then. The manner in which things become public is relevant in my opinion. Media (and especially online media) is a big pile of garbage these days.

 

[stargazer17]

I think the sister would make the news public. She knows how many people are supporting her and her family and care about and are invested in finding out what happened to Maura.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I think the sister would make the news public. She knows how many people are supporting her and her family and care about and are invested in finding out what happened to Maura.

Exactly. Why would any of us even be here if this was none of our business? There's a reason kidnappings and homicides are not private.

 

[tigerteeth]

As of today, it sounds like the family is still waiting: Test Results of Human Remains on Loon Mountain May Take Several More Months

"On Monday I asked officials for an update and an estimated timeline. They told me it may take several months for examination and testing results. In speaking with one expert familiar with the initial assessment, there may be evidence to suggest the gender of the remains which gives us hope; however, we want to see definitive results which hopefully will come soon. As my family continues to wait, we are thankful for the outpouring of love and support from family, friends, and supporters."

The interesting part of this blog post for me is that the remains were found in native soil.
That, and the photo of the adjacent area.

 

[Truth Prevails]

The interesting part of this blog post for me is that the remains were found in native soil.
That, and the photo of the adjacent area.

Okay. So now you have me curious.

Do you take "native soil" to mean the original soil on the mountain--in other words, the remains couldn't have been transported to the site in a load of fill from elsewhere? Am I close?

Also, the photo. My first thoughts were to wonder why she would post a picture of the adjacent area and not simply of the area. Lots of big boulders with a "soft" area in the middle. If it's similar to the adjoining area where remains were found, could it indicate an animal lugged pieces there?

I'll add the picture below and hope you share more details of your thoughts on this.

Test Results of Human Remains on Loon Mountain May Take Several More Months

(Adding the link to show where the image is from so it doesn't get deleted, I hope).

 

[Kudzu]

Okay. So now you have me curious.

Do you take "native soil" to mean the original soil on the mountain--in other words, the remains couldn't have been transported to the site in a load of fill from elsewhere? Am I close?

Also, the photo. My first thoughts were to wonder why she would post a picture of the adjacent area and not simply of the area. Lots of big boulders with a "soft" area in the middle. If it's similar to the adjoining area where remains were found, could it indicate an animal lugged pieces there?

I'll add the picture below and hope you share more details of your thoughts on this.

Test Results of Human Remains on Loon Mountain May Take Several More Months

(Adding the link to show where the image is from so it doesn't get deleted, I hope).

That’s a beautiful spot. If it’s Maura, I can see how the rocks could have provided some barrier to the wind and weather. If it’s a Native American, I hate very much that their final resting place has been disturbed.

 

[minazoe]

Maura Murray's case is known around the globe. People everywhere wonder and speculate on what happened to her, if her remains are found, it will be big news and then there will be the push to discover COD...which likely may not be possible.

they could get lucky though..like find enough to reassemble her skull only to find that there is evidence of bludgeoning or a gunshot wound..( example).

maybe some other evidence could be located ...

no matter what if it's Maura the speculation won't end there..

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

if it's Maura the speculation won't end there..

Not if Renner has anything to say about it.

 

[tigerteeth]

Okay. So now you have me curious.

Do you take "native soil" to mean the original soil on the mountain--in other words, the remains couldn't have been transported to the site in a load of fill from elsewhere? Am I close?

Also, the photo. My first thoughts were to wonder why she would post a picture of the adjacent area and not simply of the area. Lots of big boulders with a "soft" area in the middle. If it's similar to the adjoining area where remains were found, could it indicate an animal lugged pieces there?

I'll add the picture below and hope you share more details of your thoughts on this.

Test Results of Human Remains on Loon Mountain May Take Several More Months

(Adding the link to show where the image is from so it doesn't get deleted, I hope).

I do think it means that, yes, that it was not fill.

I was wondering that, too, about the adjacent area. Maybe she was forbidden from showing the scene but it does look quite rugged and “untouched” which is interesting.

maybe it is the type of place only people familiar with the area would know of…interesting to me. I know people hate this idea but this reminds me of Israel Keyes’ style. I know I know. Not saying I suspect that. But…interesting.

Maybe this wasn’t a crime though. Good thought on the animal dragging.

 

[minazoe]

Israel Keyes was known to operate in that area wasn't he? he was known to have been in that area sometime prior ? which gives me all kinds of ideas about her being tailed from the bar and having her car tinkered somehow. It was winter and he would likely have some difficulty burying her in the ground or deep sixing her in a lake...if he was looking that night a girl drinking alone in a bar would be ideal.mOO

 

[minazoe]

I just wanted to add that he was known to abduct a victim and forced her to walk quite some way and transported her so, this would not be out of his wheelhouse. mOO

 

[chaddylex]

Remains are not Maura's... Julie just posted on Twitter

 

[sds71]

@Bward3

Bone fragments recently discovered during construction at Loon Mountain are NOT missing UMass Amherst Student Maura Murray. Maura vanished in 2004 after a car accident in Haverhill, NH. This is her family’s statement.
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