NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - # 9

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  • #601
She told her teacher correct?

She said there was a death in the family to a teacher or a nursing program director. I believe she was trying to make a very good excuse for her absense, because the nursing program was very strict about absenses. To me, this suggests she was probably going to go back to school after a short hiatus in NH, because why bother making excuses to a teacher for your absense if you are going to committ suicide or take off for a new life? JMO
 
  • #602
I've long been checking in on this case, as Maura was just a few years younger than me and it seemed like such an odd situation. I haven't revisited this thread in a good half year, though, so I've forgotten some of the details.

Did they ever log where her cell phone was last used? I can't recall specifically, since technology is constantly changing and improving, and you tend to forget what happened when. But were they even able to chart pings off cell towers back then?

I don't know about the specifics of Maura's area, but I do recall that even in a populated area, you weren't always guaranteed a signal in 2004, especially if you had a lot of woods as NH tends to have. So even if Maura chose to walk off for whatever reason and THEN regretted it or found herself in trouble, she might not have been able to get in touch with anyone.

There was no cell reception in the area where she crashed her car in NH. IIRC, her phone wasn't used at all after the NH accident. No activity on her end.
 
  • #603
She said there was a death in the family to a teacher or a nursing program director. I believe she was trying to make a very good excuse for her absense, because the nursing program was very strict about absenses. To me, this suggests she was probably going to go back to school after a short hiatus in NH, because why bother making excuses to a teacher for your absense if you are going to committ suicide or take off for a new life? JMO

Or she just may not have wanted anyone to come looking for her for awhile. Give the teachers a valid excuse about why you won't be around for awhile and they won't ask any questions. Don't know for sure of course but the purchasing of alcohol also seems suspicious.. why buy that much just for yourself? Not sure if they were ever able to access her email accounts but from what I raid they didn't find any information that she was planning on meeting anyone or attending a party or anything like that.
 
  • #604
I've spent the past half hour going through some of the many older threads, refreshing my memory on what was known to be certain (unfortunately, precious little) and the questions/speculations raised by WS members.

One thing I don't think I've seen asked is why the supervisor that told Maura to leave work early didn't seem to have asked WHY she was in such a state. While I can certainly understand respecting someone's privacy, I also can't imagine encountering one of my co-workers so distraught and NOT asking what's going on or how can you help. That part just seems really bizarre to me.

Another thing - according to the Wiki summarized timeline, it says Maura sent Billy an email at 1 p.m. saying she hadn't felt like talking but would call him later in the day. but then she called him at 2:18 for "one minute." That seems odds to me on several levels, the first being why email him if you planning to call such a short time afterward? She could simply have waited a little and made the call. The second thing is what does that "one minute" actually mean? Did she get VM? Busy line? Actually GET Billy and for whatever reason hang up?

Also, the Wiki clarifies my question from above -- there WASN'T cell phone reception in that area, as I suspected. So even if Maura walked off somewhere of her own volition, then got into trouble, she might not have been able to use her phone to call for help.

A small but possibly important detail is listed there which I don't recall ever hearing is that a rag from Maura's emergency roadside kit was found stuffed in the muffler pipe. I wonder if Maura herself did that or was it another person? If so, was it done prior or after the accident? Another blog I Googled says the mechanic who towed the car said Fred Murray had told Maura to do that because the car was giving her trouble. WTF?? That seems even more bizarre than anything to me.

Bolded by me

This is one of the reasons why I think Maura was a very private person. I don't know if the Supervisor asked Maura why she was upset, but it does seem like a natural question. Meaning, the supervisor probably did ask the question, but Maura didn't want to provide any answers. At the very least, Maura didn't volunteer any reasons for her upset behavior that night or even after the incident. JMO
 
  • #605
for discussion purposes:

Exact quote from Lt. Scarinza, when interviewed by James Renner not all that long ago. Lt. Scarinza was the guy in charge of F Troop at the time maura went missing.

"Fred said he had suggested putting the rag in the tailpipe. Was it an attempt to kill yourself? If so, that's not going to work. But why the hell else would you stick a rag in a tailpipe? It's an anomaly."
 
  • #606
Bolded by me

This is one of the reasons why I think Maura was a very private person. I don't know if the Supervisor asked Maura why she was upset, but it does seem like a natural question. Meaning, the supervisor probably did ask the question, but Maura didn't want to provide any answers. At the very least, Maura didn't volunteer any reasons for her upset behavior that night or even after the incident. JMO

The supervisor has stated that she asked maura what was wrong and Maura's response was a mumbled "My Sister" and nothing else.

IMO, this is how the whole phone call scandal began.

Police heard from maura's supervisor (she filled out a witness statement) after maura had gone missing and from that statement they learned that maura had said "My sister" when it came to what was troubling her that thursday night at work.

Police also obtained maura's cell phone records and learned that maura and her sister talked that night. Therefore that is how IMO, the police came to the conclusion that the phone call is what upset maura.

But later it has been learned that maura became upset hours after that phone call and when maura was found by her supervisor, she wasn;t on a phone.

So the whole phone call thing has always been a BIG ASSUMPTION with no fact to back it up in its linkage to maura becoming upset IMO.
 
  • #607
for discussion purposes:

Exact quote from Lt. Scarinza, when interviewed by James Renner not all that long ago. Lt. Scarinza was the guy in charge of F Troop at the time maura went missing.

"Fred said he had suggested putting the rag in the tailpipe. Was it an attempt to kill yourself? If so, that's not going to work. But why the hell else would you stick a rag in a tailpipe? It's an anomaly."

The strange thing is that she wasn't at the accident scene long enough for any suicide attempt by car exhaust to work. Perhaps, she changed her mind and decided to flee the area, but left the rag in the pipe. Her mind must have been reeling at the time.

I recall the mechanic saying the rag was stuck way up in the pipe. Was it possible she could still drive the car? Maybe the rag was the reason the car drove crappy and she wanted a new one? Was it possible she didn't know it was there? Supposedly, the rag should have blown out by the pressure, but maybe there was enough space for the exhaust to escape? Seems unlikely, but who knows? Was it possible she put the rag in the pipe to minimize the smoking, while she rummaged through the trunk? Not sure if this scenario makes much sense . . Just some thoughts and questions . . .
 
  • #608
The supervisor has stated that she asked maura what was wrong and Maura's response was a mumbled "My Sister" and nothing else.

IMO, this is how the whole phone call scandal began.

Police heard from maura's supervisor (she filled out a witness statement) after maura had gone missing and from that statement they learned that maura had said "My sister" when it came to what was troubling her that thursday night at work.

Police also obtained maura's cell phone records and learned that maura and her sister talked that night. Therefore that is how IMO, the police came to the conclusion that the phone call is what upset maura.

But later it has been learned that maura became upset hours after that phone call and when maura was found by her supervisor, she wasn;t on a phone.

So the whole phone call thing has always been a BIG ASSUMPTION with no fact to back it up in its linkage to maura becoming upset IMO.

I agree, but something was bothering her that evening and she didn't really disclose the reason. It seems that it had something to do with her sister, but one is still perplexed about the reason. This makes me think she wasn't ready to discuss it with anyone. Thus, the reason why I believe she was very private and wasn't inclined to share any emotional issues. JMO
 
  • #609
Just stirring up the pot ....
We really have no idea exactly what took place when she crashed and the short time till she disappeared. Going by what the SBD said might be a big mistake. Was he telling the truth, was he making things up, was outright lying? We just don't know.
Could he have helped her shove the rag up the tail pipe and could she have begun waking to where he lived? Could he have seen someone he knew stop and give her a ride? - Who knows... Am I saying I believe this is what happened - no. But could it have happened - yes, as anything could have since we have no other witness to collaborate is account.
 
  • #610
why buy that much just for yourself? Not sure if they were ever able to access her email accounts but from what I raid they didn't find any information that she was planning on meeting anyone or attending a party or anything like that.

Snipped by me... IIRC she bought like $40 of booze, right? Unless we are talking about Keystone beers, that really isnt a TON of alcohol. It was a box of wine, some Baileys and some vodka, I believe. For a week on "vacation" (if she was intending to just get away, recharge her batteries and regroup), that really isn't too excessive IMO, definitely not for a college student. I used to be able to drink that much in a weekend. 8 years later, not so much.
 
  • #611
Great point, Jerri Blank!
I do think that just because Maura was in a rough spot, she did not want to kill herself.
A good point McSpy made was her fake excuse she gave to the professor about a death in the family.
An excuse such as "I'm in a rough spot and need some time off to sort things out" won't exactly be a valid excuse professors in a nursing program would take for missed class time and work. Nursing programs are pretty strict-in fact, some colleges now even have a waiting list just to get into a nursing program. I think Maura truly valued her nursing career, and had every intention of coming back to school...why else make up a fake excuse? Even if it would prevent someone from looking for her, it still does not make too much sense.
 
  • #612
Just stirring up the pot ....
We really have no idea exactly what took place when she crashed and the short time till she disappeared. Going by what the SBD said might be a big mistake. Was he telling the truth, was he making things up, was outright lying? We just don't know.
Could he have helped her shove the rag up the tail pipe and could she have begun waking to where he lived? Could he have seen someone he knew stop and give her a ride? - Who knows... Am I saying I believe this is what happened - no. But could it have happened - yes, as anything could have since we have no other witness to collaborate is account.

Looooong time lurker, finally taking time to get involved in the discussions. OldSteve is correct, we really have no evidence what took place following the crash.The crazy thing to me about this case is that there is really no solid evidence to support any of the theories out there. Walkaway-other than the footsteps going away from the vehicle and unsubstantiated sightings, no real evidence to support it. Suicide-Rough patch with difficult life situations, but nothing definitive to say that may have been Maura's intent. Foul Play-No evidence at all near the car to support it, and nothing to substantiate it after she began to walk away from the vehicle. While there is some circumstantial evidence out there for all of these, we still do not have any real solid evidence of what Maura was planning. I can't imagine what it is like for LE and the family...
 
  • #613
Looooong time lurker, finally taking time to get involved in the discussions. OldSteve is correct, we really have no evidence what took place following the crash.The crazy thing to me about this case is that there is really no solid evidence to support any of the theories out there. Walkaway-other than the footsteps going away from the vehicle and unsubstantiated sightings, no real evidence to support it. Suicide-Rough patch with difficult life situations, but nothing definitive to say that may have been Maura's intent. Foul Play-No evidence at all near the car to support it, and nothing to substantiate it after she began to walk away from the vehicle. While there is some circumstantial evidence out there for all of these, we still do not have any real solid evidence of what Maura was planning. I can't imagine what it is like for LE and the family...

:welcome: To Websleuths BennyHill2012 - and I like your post!
Based on all the cases I've followed, when all there is is what you have pointed out, then the odds greatly favor a crime taking place. One of the more recent cases was that of Mickey Shunick who simply vanished while riding home late at night on her bicycle from her friends home. When all possible routes were traced, there was no sign of anything to show a struggle took place, or she crashed her bike..
 
  • #614
I think too much is being taken on truth. Did the bus driver really drive away from Maura? Did she feel, given the desolate road, time of night, weather and that it's a big bus, that it might be safe to climb aboard and go with him to his house to make a call? Was his bus ever tested for DNA evidence? Maybe he did leave her but then C.B.'d to one of his friends nearby that there's a helpless girl on the roadside, and so it's a perfect chance for them to fulfill their fantasy and abduct her...

If the driver was truthful, I'd say she may have walked around trying to get to a clearing or higher ground for cellphone reception. She may have knocked on someone's door, she told them her story, they saw she was out of sorts and invited her in out of the cold, they directed her to the phone, then overpowered her and kept her.

Given the location on Google Earth and the time, I doubt there was much traffic, and it's unlikely a would-be abductor just happened to drive by her location and grabbed her. If anything, perhaps someone within 1-2 miles heard on a police scanner that a young lady was broken down, and that person rushed to the scene ahead of the police and nabbed her.

What I'd do...

- Contact Google and try to get satellite maps of the area prior to her crash, then compare those to maps from days/weeks/months after she vanished, to see if any new structures went up (or holes were dug) such as a shed or underground bunker. Not easy given the landscape and all the tree obstructions from an aerial view, but it's something to consider.

- Use a helicopter equipped with infrared during the winter to scan a 5-mile radius around the crash site, to see if a heat signature is detected in an unusual place set off from a main structure. It's safe to assume if someone is holding someone captive in a shed, they would have to supply heat to keep that person alive, which should create a heat bloom.

That the tracking dog apparently went bonkers around a shed that had a closet is a bit troubling. Maybe she was held there temporarily and than transported to another location without her ever touching the ground, so the dog couldn't do anymore. I agree with her dad that the dog(s) should have been given something other than a new glove to sniff. That the car was her father's also wouldn't provide the strongest scent from her to help them - the police should have requested something typically worn/used by her for maximum scent. They dropped the ball...

I hope they find out what happened to her. I think she was captured by someone local and might still be alive today. Whoever that sicko is on Youtube who did the laughing and those drawings should be seriously considered as her abductor. He does not appear to be acting deranged (I think he really is) and seems like the type who would abduct someone and keep them just for kicks. I'd circulate his photo all over that area (house-to-house and local stores) near where she crashed to see if anyone recognizes him. He appears to be in a homemade basement or bunker, based on the poor mortar job.
 
  • #615
I think too much is being taken on truth. Did the bus driver really drive away from Maura? Did she feel, given the desolate road, time of night, weather and that it's a big bus, that it might be safe to climb aboard and go with him to his house to make a call? Was his bus ever tested for DNA evidence? Maybe he did leave her but then C.B.'d to one of his friends nearby that there's a helpless girl on the roadside, and so it's a perfect chance for them to fulfill their fantasy and abduct her...

If the driver was truthful, I'd say she may have walked around trying to get to a clearing or higher ground for cellphone reception. She may have knocked on someone's door, she told them her story, they saw she was out of sorts and invited her in out of the cold, they directed her to the phone, then overpowered her and kept her.

Given the location on Google Earth and the time, I doubt there was much traffic, and it's unlikely a would-be abductor just happened to drive by her location and grabbed her. If anything, perhaps someone within 1-2 miles heard on a police scanner that a young lady was broken down, and that person rushed to the scene ahead of the police and nabbed her.

What I'd do...

- Contact Google and try to get satellite maps of the area prior to her crash, then compare those to maps from days/weeks/months after she vanished, to see if any new structures went up (or holes were dug) such as a shed or underground bunker. Not easy given the landscape and all the tree obstructions from an aerial view, but it's something to consider.

- Use a helicopter equipped with infrared during the winter to scan a 5-mile radius around the crash site, to see if a heat signature is detected in an unusual place set off from a main structure. It's safe to assume if someone is holding someone captive in a shed, they would have to supply heat to keep that person alive, which should create a heat bloom.

That the tracking dog apparently went bonkers around a shed that had a closet is a bit troubling. Maybe she was held there temporarily and than transported to another location without her ever touching the ground, so the dog couldn't do anymore. I agree with her dad that the dog(s) should have been given something other than a new glove to sniff. That the car was her father's also wouldn't provide the strongest scent from her to help them - the police should have requested something typically worn/used by her for maximum scent. They dropped the ball...

I hope they find out what happened to her. I think she was captured by someone local and might still be alive today. Whoever that sicko is on Youtube who did the laughing and those drawings should be seriously considered as her abductor. He does not appear to be acting deranged (I think he really is) and seems like the type who would abduct someone and keep them just for kicks. I'd circulate his photo all over that area (house-to-house and local stores) near where she crashed to see if anyone recognizes him. He appears to be in a basement or bunker (or maybe even an elevated commercial/city garage) based on the concrete blocks.

The car was hers (Although in her father's name). She had an accident less than 48 hours before near her dorm in which she was driving her father's brand new car at the time.

Most of the SBD account of the night has been backed up by witnessess that were looking out their window as his bus approached maura and her car.

The 911 call the SBD's wife/live in girlfriend made backs up the fact that the SBD went to his house rather quickly after encountering maura and relayed the info to get the 911 call going.

It is still speculation on what the SBD and maura actually did when talking to one another.

However, a witness has noted that after the SBD left the scene and went to his house, one person was still seen at the wrecked saturn moving around the car and opening up the trunk. (It is assumed to be maura).



The whole listening to a scanner theory IMO makes absolutely no sense.

A call over the scanner would be for a wrecked car and its location. It would likely NOT describe "a young white female all by herself just waiting to be abducted. The first 911 call came in from a witness who had no clue the identity of the driver.

But even if that is how the call came out and it described a young innocent white woman alone stranded, one would have to be pretty stupid to try and head to the accident scene at the very same time police and firefighters were also reporting to the scene.

Typically a criminal wants to go the opposite direction of law enforcement, not try to race them to a location, commit a crime and then speed off just in the nick of time. There is no logic to that what so ever IMO.
 
  • #616
Ad OldSteve mentioned, foul play isn't out of the question. Many people are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is no real evidence to support that I guess-no belongings scattered, etc., but I wouldn't totally rule it out. I have seen a lot of cases of a woman walking alone who meets with random foul play. Maybe nothing happened right at the accident site, but later on if MM was walking down the road, or if she accepted a ride in the hours after the accident. You would think she would have been seen by more people after she left the accident site-there were homes and businesses along the road from what people have been saying. If only some nosy Marge had been looking out the window after the SBD driver left!
 
  • #617
The whole listening to a scanner theory IMO makes absolutely no sense.

A call over the scanner would be for a wrecked car and its location. It would likely NOT describe "a young white female all by herself just waiting to be abducted. The first 911 call came in from a witness who had no clue the identity of the driver.

But even if that is how the call came out and it described a young innocent white woman alone stranded, one would have to be pretty stupid to try and head to the accident scene at the very same time police and firefighters were also reporting to the scene.

Growing up in Maine, I remember my grandfather used to listen to his police scanner all the time, and some of the calls were very descriptive. Even a simple call from Dispatch to an officer in the field, indicating "minor car crash, one vehicle, female driver" would be enough for some crazy person to go off of. Plus, my contention that it's someone local who may have grabbed her, who knew the police, knew where they typically were/hung out, how long it would take for them to reach the crash area, etc, is what makes my theory very plausible, I feel.

However, that someone sick just happened to be listening to the police scanner around that location/time? Probably a stretch. However, a lot of people who live in remote areas have problems/issues; they're recluses for a reason. And don't forget that many criminals are very brazen and laugh at police and think it's a game. They do things in plain view, despite knowing there are surveillance cameras capturing their every move. Also, if you get a good ol' boy who's stupid/fearless and knows the lay of the land and the way police respond, I think it's very possible it was a race to get her that may have been exciting to him/them.

However, I think one of two things happened:

1) She wandered off to get cellphone reception, couldn't, knocked on someone's door and that person grabbed her.

2) She wandered off in search of reception, slipped/fell/passed out, was "out" for a spell, then someone found her and decided to keep her.

I hope it's neither. I'd rather die of freezing over four days than be held captive for years. Watching Disappeared is very disturbing. So many unresolved cases. What the hell's wrong with people?

BTW, just because some little old lady says the account was true, that the bus driver left and she went back into her house, doesn't mean she's being truthful. Anyone remember the based-on-a-true-story film Without A Trace? A son and eldery mother abducted and held a little boy captive for years. Women and the elderly can be just as sick and twisted as men. I would trust no one when it comes to these kinds of matters. You have to be skeptical of everyone. Perhaps that neighboring eyewitness was approached by Maura, and she struck her over the head with her cane and dragged her into her house. I'm not being funny. Anything's possible.
 
  • #618
Growing up in Maine, I remember my grandfather used to listen to his police scanner all the time, and some of the calls were very descriptive. Even a simple call from Dispatch to an officer in the field, indicating "minor car crash, one vehicle, female driver" would be enough for some crazy person to go off of. Plus, my contention that it's someone local who may have grabbed her, who knew the police, knew where they typically were/hung out, how long it would take for them to reach the crash area, etc, is what makes my theory very plausible, I feel.

However, that someone sick just happened to be listening to the police scanner around that location/time? Probably a stretch. However, a lot of people who live in remote areas have problems/issues; they're recluses for a reason. And don't forget that many criminals are very brazen and laugh at police and think it's a game. They do things in plain view, despite knowing there are surveillance cameras capturing their every move. Also, if you get a good ol' boy who's stupid/fearless and knows the lay of the land and the way police respond, I think it's very possible it was a race to get her that may have been exciting to him/them.

However, I think one of two things happened:

1) She wandered off to get cellphone reception, couldn't, knocked on someone's door and that person grabbed her.

2) She wandered off in search of reception, slipped/fell/passed out, was "out" for a spell, then someone found her and decided to keep her.

I hope it's neither. I'd rather die of freezing over four days than be held captive for years. Watching Disappeared is very disturbing. So many unresolved cases. What the hell's wrong with people?

BTW, just because some little old lady says the account was true, that the bus driver left and she went back into her house, doesn't mean she's being truthful. Anyone remember the based-on-a-true-story film Without A Trace? A son and eldery mother abducted and held a little boy captive for years. Women and the elderly can be just as sick and twisted as men. I would trust no one when it comes to these kinds of matters. You have to be skeptical of everyone. Perhaps that neighboring eyewitness was approached by Maura, and she struck her over the head with her cane and dragged her into her house. I'm not being funny. Anything's possible.

But do keep in mind, there were a total of four witnessess looking out their window, including a couple that was much closer than the "older couple" whom called 911 after hearing maura's car go boom.

The couple, in which maura's car actually ended up in its final resting spot in front of their house ... never called 911.

Very true that maura could've went to a house nearby and something devious took place (such as the contractors house), however, also very likely she accepted a ride from someone who was just being a good samaratin and she had them take her the rest of the way to where ever she wanted to go.

For as many people that you would think have heard about the maura murray case, a gazillion more have not heard about it and some innocent good samaratin may have just helped a stranded motorist that night and gone on about their life and never knew they were helping someone that went on to become missing involuntary or voluntary.
 
  • #619
For as many people that you would think have heard about the maura murray case, a gazillion more have not heard about it and some innocent good samaratin may have just helped a stranded motorist that night and gone on about their life and never knew they were helping someone that went on to become missing involuntary or voluntary.

Absolutely. Anything/everything is possible.

I believe her car doors were locked, and that an emergency kit was open, and a rag or orange distress ribbon was hanging from the tailpipe. If she planned to leave the scene to get help or sleep if off somewhere until tomorrow, it would make sense that she'd lock her door and maybe dangle something from the car, showing the owner/driver has marked it as needing help or a road hazard. However, that's coming from the position of someone who hasn't been drinking, isn't tired and alone, and who wasn't just spun around and possibly dazed from a crash.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall the show indicating the police arrived on the scene about ten minutes after the bus driver left her (or maybe ten minutes after the bus driver arrived home and called). Does anyone know for sure what the timeframe is? I've been proceeding under the assumption it was ten minutes. If longer, my thoughts on the car and what she or someone else may have done to it would change.

If only a short time and someone's been through what she's been through, I doubt the person would have the presence of mind to lock doors, hang a rag from somewhere, etc. Those of you claimed someone stuffed a rag in the exhaust after she crashed, what would be the point of that? Unless they're sick and felt she might return and they wanted her to be stranded so they could get her.

I wonder if when spinning out the rear of her car went into a snowbank and a rag happened to be in that snow and got stuck onto/in the tailpipe.
 
  • #620
Absolutely. Anything/everything is possible.

I believe her car doors were locked, and that an emergency kit was open, and a rag or orange distress ribbon was hanging from the tailpipe. If she planned to leave the scene to get help or sleep if off somewhere until tomorrow, it would make sense that she'd lock her door and maybe dangle something from the car, showing the owner/driver has marked it as needing help or a road hazard. However, that's coming from the position of someone who hasn't been drinking, isn't tired and alone, and who wasn't just spun around and possibly dazed from a crash.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall the show indicating the police arrived on the scene about ten minutes after the bus driver left her (or maybe ten minutes after the bus driver arrived home and called). Does anyone know for sure what the timeframe is? I've been proceeding under the assumption it was ten minutes. If longer, my thoughts on the car and what she or someone else may have done to it would change.

If only a short time and someone's been through what she's been through, I doubt the person would have the presence of mind to lock doors, hang a rag from somewhere, etc. Those of you claimed someone stuffed a rag in the exhaust after she crashed, what would be the point of that? Unless they're sick and felt she might return and they wanted her to be stranded so they could get her.

I wonder if when spinning out the rear of her car went into a snowbank and a rag happened to be in that snow and got stuck onto/in the tailpipe.


First witness (FW) calls 911 at 7:27 p.m.
reports seeing a man in vehicle smoking a cigarette.

At 7:43 p.m. -- another 911 dispatch from neighboring town talks to same dispatch that dealt with (FW) to let them know the Atwood's are trying to get a hold of them === this is first mention that the accident site includes a female driver by herself.

At 7:46 p.m. ---- first officer arrives on scene. Maura is gone.



This is an accurate timeline. It is pulled from the actual 911 logs which time-stamp all their calls.

The police/accident report done by the officer has slightly different times. Those are rarely ever 100 percent accurate and often times estimated accounts. Officers don't always complete a report right there at the scene and many of them are not the best note keepers to begin with.


The rag in maura's saturn's tailpipe has long been argued about and never proven (released publically) by anyone as to how it was found in her car and how it got there. It's all speculation.
 
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