Identified! NJ - Blairstown, Cedar Ridge Cemetery, 'Princess Doe', WhtFem 14-18, 36UFNJ, peacock skirt, Jul'82 - Dawn Olanick *charges*

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  • #721
I support the efforts to move the Princess to Arlington National Cemetery. Laying her to rest amongst America's most honored would be powerful symbolism.
 
  • #722
I support the efforts to move the Princess to Arlington National Cemetery. Laying her to rest amongst America's most honored would be powerful symbolism.

I respectfully disagree.

1. Arlington National Cemetery is a military cemetery.
2. They are quickly running out of space.
3. If a waiver were granted, then what about Beth Doe and Baby? LOTD? The Sumter Does? Woodlawn Jane Doe? Or any of the other well-known, high profile unidentified? No disrespect to Princess Doe but is she more deserving?

Mostly #1 - it's a military cemetery and should remain so.
 
  • #723
I support the efforts to move the Princess to Arlington National Cemetery. Laying her to rest amongst America's most honored would be powerful symbolism.

I absolutely disagree with you. Princess Doe needs to remain where she is, the people of Blairstown and Warren County have accepted her, loved her and are protective of her memory as if she were one of our own. She does not need to moved. Here she has visitors on a regular basis, who pray for her soul and that someday she will have justice. She does not need to be moved to be an object of "powerful symbolism" among people who don't care, where her memory will be forgotten.
 
  • #724
I absolutely disagree with you. Princess Doe needs to remain where she is, the people of Blairstown and Warren County have accepted her, loved her and are protective of her memory as if she were one of our own. She does not need to moved. Here she has visitors on a regular basis, who pray for her soul and that someday she will have justice. She does not need to be moved to be an object of "powerful symbolism" among people who don't care, where her memory will be forgotten.
I'm so glad she has all of you to remember and visit her. Thank you for all you do ❤️
 
  • #725
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Princess Doe is a woman who was found in Cedar Ridge Cemetery in Blairstown, NJ on July 15th, 1982 by a grave digger. She was a young female between the ages of 15-20, although this is hard to determine because she was bludgeoned in the face beyond recognition, and it is unknown how long the body was outside due to the summer humidity. Her cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head, her approximate height was 5 feet 2 inches, and she was about 110 pounds. This woman came to be known as Princess Doe because the lead detective on the case, Lt. Eric Kranz, did not want her name lost among the many Jane Does. No arrests have been made in the case but the Warren County Prosecutor's Office still considers the case to be active.
Princess Doe's DNA was collected in 1999 after she was exhumed and this helped to rule out some possible leads on her identity. In 2012, a sample of her hair and a tooth were examined through isotope analysis and determined that she was likely born in the US. Her hair sample indicated that she had lived at least seven to ten months in the Midwestern or Northeastern United States, while the tooth sample indicated she could possibly be from Arizona. It is also believed that the girl had spent a long period of time in Long Island, New York.
Princess Doe was wearing unusual clothing when she was discovered, which included a "peasant" skirt and a red short sleeved shirt with yellow piping. Because of this unusual clothing, a woman claimed that she had seen this girl in a store across from the cemetery on July 13th, 1982, just two days before her body was found. The store was searched, but investigators could not find any evidence of her in or around the store. After viewing the photos of the clothing, three people also claimed that they had bought similar clothes from a store in Long Island, which is now closed and detectives were unable to determine if this was where Princess Doe had gotten her clothes.
The most recent development, is that on April 23th, 2020, a regular volunteer from the Blairstown Museum found the grave in disarray. The volunteer found a wrought iron flower basket knocked over, a cross and statue broken, mementos strewn near Doe’s grave and an unexplained, taped up modern-day Victrola box adjacent to tire tracks, placed near the site. When she and another person returned the next day after calling representatives of the cemetery, they were shocked to find that the Victrola box had been moved and opened. Inside the box was a stained towel, unicorn soap, forget me not card, a sealed brown mailing envelope and a bag of bird food.

Other Cases Details:
  • No known surgical scars, birth marks or tattoos. Scars or marks on the head/face area would not be known due to the condition of the body
  • The front two teeth are slightly darker than the other teeth
  • Toxicology did not reveal any traces of drugs but is not 100% conclusive because of the time lapse between the death and discovery of the body
  • it is believed that the body was discovered after 1-3 weeks of exposure - this was difficult to determine because of the hot/humid weather in the area at the time
Her Clothing and Digitally Created Pictures:
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Resources:
http://www.princessdoe.org/details.html
36UFNJ
Identifying Princess Doe: 30 Years After She Was Slain, New Technology May ID Her and The Killer | Long Island Press
Investigators inch closer to identifying Princess Doe 30 years after her death
Princess Doe burial plot vandalism another mystery in unsolved case
 

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I remember when someone decided to commit suicide in front of Sylvia Likens's grave. the graves of well-known victims should be given protection.
 
  • #729
I went there once last year. There was lots of odd things at the grave.
The Victrola box is an odd one.
 
  • #730
Yes people leave odd things as tributes. For some reason the victrola box and bird seed does not see like the things kids would bring there.
 
  • #731
August 11, 2019

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  • #732
I'm new here so I don't know how to check rule outs, but has Cecile Moch ever been considered ? The location doesn't match the isotopes and the age would be off by one year, but she looks like the composites, has the same hair colour as Doe, weighs the same and is approximately the same height. And her left ear was pierced three times (the ears being among the first things to decompose when a corpse is exposed to the elements, it wouldn't surprise me if the third piercing couldn't have been seen).
Cecile Frances Moch – The Charley Project
 

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  • #733
Welcome @Tristana if you scroll up this thread about 10 posts there is a list of rule-outs posted there. With all cases you are encouraged the read the entire case thread as there may be important information further back that will lead your research.
 
  • #734
Did you ever get any responses to your question about Cecile Moch? I have also been looking at her as a possible.
 
  • #735
Did you ever get any responses to your question about Cecile Moch? I have also been looking at her as a possible.

Yes, apparently LE has already been notified in both states. I'm afraid they aren't looking into it that much because of the circumstances (Princess is thought to have run away from home while Cecile's AMC Gremlin was found in the mountains near Santa Barbara after she went missing), but she was working for what was essentially a cult which is very suspicious to me. The problem with Princess Doe is that she fits a lot of molds, she was what people nowadays would call a "basic white girl", so it leaves us with a ton of missing people who could be her. Maybe we're even looking at a case where no one reported her missing because if she's at the older end of the 14-20 age range which is what I think (she wanted to find a job, and being 17 I can tell you a 14 or 15 year-old girl would not really have the maturity to get a job), well her relatives might have assumed she had decided to start fresh somewhere else.
 
  • #736
Wow - I never saw Cecile's profile. She does look like Princess Doe. I can ask the Blairstown Museum if they have ever considered her or if they know anything about a possible match if you would like?
 
  • #737
Wow - I never saw Cecile's profile. She does look like Princess Doe. I can ask the Blairstown Museum if they have ever considered her or if they know anything about a possible match if you would like?
Absolutely! That would be awesome! I didn't see her listed on the current list of comparisons on NAMUS. Please keep me posted.
 
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It didn't? I see 29 rule outs.
 
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