AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Mariá Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland County, 16 Sept 2019 #4

[958pm]

I feel like we are up against a wall here. Most of these smaller facts are seemingly insignificant to the larger picture of what the hell happened at the playground. I wonder if any of the three young children asked mom about the park in the convenience store...or sang a happy I’m going to the park song.

The prosecutor said she’s not wed to the red vehicle yet over 500 have been searched. Due diligence or a misleading statement until they find the right car.

 

[otto]

Unless someone comes forward for a credible tip, the disappearance is basically cold until the moment that the body is found. That could take years.

 

[MsBetsy]

Thank you. What kind of gang problem? New or generations old? Is it territorial due to drug sales or is it more of an opportunity monopolized upon due to poverty and large disenfranchised populations?

We discussed this before but the two most prominent gangs in conflict with each other in the area are bloods and crips. Any violent crimes usually are committed against each other. Other criminal acts include theft, robbery, or drugs. Imo

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I think Dulce is a victim of either an accident or an opportunistic abduction.

IMO it's sad when people judge instead of giving understanding, grace, help, and support at a time like this.

Dulce's poor mama. She is really so young and thought they would be safe playing there. And they should have been.

If anyone has possible information but hasn't yet reported it, you can even report it anonymously. Dulce and her family need you to help.

 

[Podengo]

Dogs are trained to follow a scent even when a person is being carried. It’s about the skin cells that we shed.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Considering where the mom parked, letting the two children out to run by themselves down to the playground, not in sight - what if someone was already there?

 

[958pm]

Community members continue search for missing Dulce Maria Alavez

I know we’ve been over this but .... no one admits that they saw witnessed the Abduction. But mom said ..."They said somebody threw his ice cream on the floor and my daughter just ran away,"

Who saw that? Maybe that’s the tender age child.

 

[MsBetsy]

Considering where the mom parked, letting the two children out to run by themselves down to the playground, not in sight - what if someone was already there?

It's possible that he was already there and even may have seen them or watched Dulce play there before.
It may even be someone known to the family. Imo

 

[MsBetsy]

Dogs are trained to follow a scent even when a person is being carried. It’s about the skin cells that we shed.

I wonder if the dogs lost her scent somewhere in the parking lot or where a vehicle could have pulled up behind the buildings and that's why they believe she was taken in the red van. Imo

 

[jjenny]

Community members continue search for missing Dulce Maria Alavez

I know we’ve been over this but .... no one admits that they saw witnessed the Abduction. But mom said ..."They said somebody threw his ice cream on the floor and my daughter just ran away,"

Who saw that? Maybe that’s the tender age child.

Mom explained in 911 call that "they" are the people playing basketball, so not tender aged child.

 

[jjenny]

If she had just put on fresh laundered clothing minutes before would that add a challenge to a track dogs job — maybe not having a scent except the laundry scent? Additionally, Can dogs trace scents of say, someone who was given a piggy back ride?

If there were multiple people in the park (as we know there were) that makes it hard to track.

 

[MsBetsy]

Community members continue search for missing Dulce Maria Alavez

I know we’ve been over this but .... no one admits that they saw witnessed the Abduction. But mom said ..."They said somebody threw his ice cream on the floor and my daughter just ran away,"

Who saw that? Maybe that’s the tender age child.

When LE first interviewed the 24 witnesses, none of them admitted to seeing anything and many of them wandered off.

However, the next day they were able to interview them further and that's when they released the description of the man and the vehicle in the Amber Alert.

LE has never revealed what those witnesses saw, but it is probably an accumulation of their accounts that led them to provide a general description of what happened. Imo

 

[jjenny]

When LE first interviewed the 24 witnesses, none of them admitted to seeing anything and many of them wandered off.

However, the next day they were able to interview them further and that's when they released the description of the man and the vehicle in the Amber Alert.

LE has never revealed what those witnesses saw, but it is probably an accumulation of their accounts that led them to provide a general description of what happened. Imo

What ended up in Amber alert (red van story) came from a child of tender years, per the DA who recently gave a press conference. So it seems like nothing those adults supposedly told the mother was deemed to even be credible.

 

[958pm]

Mom explained in 911 call that "they" are the people playing basketball, so not tender aged child.

Well then, this they person, “they said some one threw his ice cream on the floor..” person, is either lying or watched an adult throw a child’s ice cream while another child ran off and then turned away.... which is difficult for my non logical side to believe. But maybe. Humans are just naturally curious, you’d think that one would look again especially when said adult exits scene and toddler is still there crying.

 

[jjenny]

Well then, this they person, “they said some one threw his ice cream on the floor..” person, is either lying or watched an adult throw a child’s ice cream while another child ran off and then turned away.... which is difficult for my non logical side to believe. But maybe. Humans are just naturally curious, you’d think that one would look again especially when said adult exits scene and toddler is still there crying.

None of it seem to have ended up in Amber alert or any official statements, so I wonder when it came down to it, "they" really didn't see anything?

 

[MsMarple]

Jackie Rodriguez, a volunteer who organized Sunday’s search and has acted as a spokeswoman for the family, said authorities had already searched the park days after the 5-year-old’s Sept. 16 disappearance, but that searchers remained hopeful they might uncover new evidence.
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The crowd split into groups and set off into the nearby woods that separate the the playground and baseball diamond from the roadway. Wading through thorns and dense brush, they used sticks to turn over half-ripped plastic wrappers and beer cans or to sift through discarded bags.
Volunteers scour Bridgeton woods as Dulce Alavez search enters fourth week
More at the link.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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“My heart’s been breaking for this kid since it started. I feel terrible for the family, I can’t even sleep. It bothers me. Whatever we can do to help this to come to an end,” one woman said.

Her grandmother says they’re devastated but grateful for everyone who has been helping.
Search Continues For 5-Year-Old Dulce Maria Alavez Who Vanished From Bridgeton City Park Nearly 3 Weeks Ago

 

[MsBetsy]

What ended up in Amber alert (red van story) came from a child of tender years, per the DA who recently gave a press conference. So it seems like nothing those adults supposedly told the mother was deemed to even be credible.

Well, we don't know what they revealed in the interviews, but it's possible that they saw the man or even that he himself was among those either playing or watching the basketball game.
They may have even interviewed the suspect already. Imo

 

[zecats]

"Cumberland County Prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae said Friday the lack of evidence in the case led her to believe Dulce was taken out of Bridgeton.

“I would think that, because of the amount of law enforcement that has been in this area and has contributed to this investigation, that it may be probable that she’s not in this area,” Webb-McRae said."

Volunteers scour Bridgeton woods as Dulce Alavez search enters fourth week

"The unsolved disappearance has left residents who once felt secure in the largely Latino community fearful another child could become a victim. Bridgeton Mayor Albert Kelly said the singular, tragic incident did not define the city.

“People are still utilizing the park,” he said. “People are just keeping a close watch on the kids.”

 

[casesensitive]

I've been catching up on the threads, but can't find the 911 call that is mentioned. It isn't listed at the front of the threads nor is it in the Amber Alert thread. Does anyone have the link handy? TIA