AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Maria Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, 16 Sept 2019

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  • #261
I'm thinking they had to track down witnesses. By the time Mom called her brother to help her and then they finally called, LE, it highly likely that people who where in the park during the time she went missing, including all of the basketball players, had left and gone home, not realizing there was a missing child. JMO
The community stepped in immediately and helped in the search the first night. I am sure that they basketball players and the spectators knew immediately that a child was missing and stayed to help.
Steve Keeley
@KeeleyFox29


All out effort in Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland Coonty among law enforcement, firefighters&neighbors to find missing 5 year old Dulce Maria Alavez. This is the area she was seen last yesterday. It’s a huge area surrounded by a lake and river.
@FOX29philly
 
  • #262
Sounds like a young bozo the clown outfit. Not buying orange sneakers with red pants on a teenager: maybe red shoes? They like to match. Also, seems someone saw this kid close up or someone has an imagination. So many hours later? And a Sunoco gas station has 0 resemblance to a custard stand.
 
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The community stepped in immediately and helped in the search the first night. I am sure that they basketball players and the spectators knew immediately that a child was missing and stayed to help.
Steve Keeley
@KeeleyFox29


All out effort in Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland Coonty among law enforcement, firefighters&neighbors to find missing 5 year old Dulce Maria Alavez. This is the area she was seen last yesterday. It’s a huge area surrounded by a lake and river.
@FOX29philly
The van was seen leaving with Dulce in it around 4:20. Mom didn't call LE for help until a short time later than that. I was suggesting is it's possible that every single witness who was there at the time was not still there when the search began. Or didn't realize what was going on and what they had seen. Who knows how long those players were already on the basketball court. Getting names from those who were still there of some who may have left would take some time, and then track them down to get the info from them about the van would have, unfortunately delayed the information being out there for us to see. JMO.
 
  • #265
I'm thinking they had to track down witnesses. By the time Mom called her brother to help her and then they finally called, LE, it highly likely that people who where in the park during the time she went missing, including all of the basketball players, had left and gone home, not realizing there was a missing child. JMO

But to remember, over 36 hours later, such specifics about some random guy and his footwear and acne, he would surely have had to have made some impression to stick in the memory. I wonder if all the descriptive points came from one person or more? So, one at least must have seen him putting child into the van?
 
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The community stepped in immediately and helped in the search the first night. I am sure that they basketball players and the spectators knew immediately that a child was missing and stayed to help.
Steve Keeley
@KeeleyFox29


All out effort in Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland Coonty among law enforcement, firefighters&neighbors to find missing 5 year old Dulce Maria Alavez. This is the area she was seen last yesterday. It’s a huge area surrounded by a lake and river.
@FOX29philly

I disagree, there was a time gap and I think it would take some hours for people to hear the news and realize they were there at the time, let alone get in contact with investigators, and then again for a re-interview to see if or what they recall about this man. Given its in a public place I think they did well in 48 hours... there must have been a lot of people to interview and lots of random tips to sort through that didn’t even pertain to the situation... imo!
 
  • #267
But to remember, over 36 hours later, such specifics about some random guy and his footwear and acne, he would surely have had to have made some impression to stick the memory. I wonder if all the descriptive points came from one person or more? So, one at least must have seen him putting child into the van?
Possible he had been closer to, say the basketball court, earlier and they were able to give such detail from having seen him before he abducted Dulce? Maybe he was hanging around the court or the park and others saw him close up. You'd have to in order to see acne I'd think. It is pretty good memory for details for the time that passed.
 
  • #268
Is this statement in reply to any questions? If so, what was asked to elicit her reply's.
Is it edited? If she is speaking in the free Edited process, that is, using her own words / language without prompt or parroting words back, then there is passivity , Temparol lacunae (skip in time) and unecessary language.

“I saw my son crying because someone had [thrown] his ice cream on the floor and after that he started pointing behind those buildings over there,” Noema told reporters of some structures near the playground. “We thought she was just hiding … she was just playing hide and seek.”
Perez began to search for the young girl—even calling family members to assist in the search—but there was no sign of the 5-year-old. The family called police just before 5 p.m.
“I just want to find her and I want to find that she’s OK, that nothing bad has happened to her,” she said,
 
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Police interviewed several witnesses that were playing basketball near where the abduction was said to have taken place and described the man police eventually identified in Wednesday’s Amber Alert. (Google)

Alavez pleaded with her daughter’s abductor to “return her back and stop making her family suffer so much." She told NJ.com that her family has not played a role in Dulce’s disappearance, something she said authorities have suggested.

“The police think our family did this,” she said. “They think I did something to her. I didn’t. I love my daughter. I would never do nothing bad to her."

Authorities have not publicly said that they suspect the Alavez family in Dulce’s abduction.
Amber Alert issued for New Jersey girl, 5; witnesses say man led her into red van
 
  • #270
Ducle's mother reported to authorities that she saw her daughter playing on the swings with her 3-year-old brother, about 30 yards away, while she remained in her car with an 8-year-old relative.

"She would never run off," Dulce's mother, Noema Alavez Perez, told Philadelphia ABC station WPVI. "She would never walk by herself or do something like that. This is the first time she did it."

Dozens of personnel from various law enforcement agencies within the county searched the area extensively Tuesday alongside K-9 units, but Ducle was nowhere to be found.
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Bridgeton Police Department

The Amber Alert was issued after investigators interviewed people who were in the park at the time.

Authorities have been conducting simultaneous investigations since Dulce was reported missing, with officers focused on locating the child and carrying out a criminal investigation into her disappearance, police said.

Anyone with information on her whereabouts is urged to call the Bridgeton Police Department at 1-856-451-0033.
Amber Alert issued for 5-year-old New Jersey girl who police say was lured into a van
 
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I really wish this active amber alert was posted in the banner on this website. :(
 
  • #272
Ducle's mother reported to authorities that she saw her daughter playing on the swings with her 3-year-old brother, about 30 yards away, while she remained in her car with an 8-year-old relative.

"She would never run off," Dulce's mother, Noema Alavez Perez, told Philadelphia ABC station WPVI. "She would never walk by herself or do something like that. This is the first time she did it."

Dozens of personnel from various law enforcement agencies within the county searched the area extensively Tuesday alongside K-9 units, but Ducle was nowhere to be found.
dulce-5-ht-er-190918_hpEmbed_4x3_992.jpg

Bridgeton Police Department

The Amber Alert was issued after investigators interviewed people who were in the park at the time.

Authorities have been conducting simultaneous investigations since Dulce was reported missing, with officers focused on locating the child and carrying out a criminal investigation into her disappearance, police said.

Anyone with information on her whereabouts is urged to call the Bridgeton Police Department at 1-856-451-0033.
Amber Alert issued for 5-year-old New Jersey girl who police say was lured into a van
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Ducle's mother reported to authorities that she saw her daughter playing on the swings with her 3-year-old brother, about 30 yards away, while she remained in her car with an 8-year-old relative.

"She would never run off," Dulce's mother, Noema Alavez Perez, told Philadelphia ABC station WPVI. "She would never walk by herself or do something like that. This is the first time she did it."

Dozens of personnel from various law enforcement agencies within the county searched the area extensively Tuesday alongside K-9 units, but Ducle was nowhere to be found.
dulce-5-ht-er-190918_hpEmbed_4x3_992.jpg

Bridgeton Police Department

The Amber Alert was issued after investigators interviewed people who were in the park at the time.

Authorities have been conducting simultaneous investigations since Dulce was reported missing, with officers focused on locating the child and carrying out a criminal investigation into her disappearance, police said.

Anyone with information on her whereabouts is urged to call the Bridgeton Police Department at 1-856-451-0033.
Amber Alert issued for 5-year-old New Jersey girl who police say was lured into a van

She said she ran away in an earlier interview. And the swings are new. Earlier report says no one at the park saw anything...smh
 
  • #273
Webseluths site is frustrating me this morning. We're back to the slow loading and split posting mode. Anyone else?

Headed up the NJ Turnpike to NYC today anyway to see a show, so at least I can keep my eyes on the lookout for a "red" mini van. Don't see too many of those, though I do doubt the kidnapper even left South Jersey. JMO
 
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Investigators spent the day Tuesday at the 1,000-acre Bridgeton park trying to find the girl, first by conducting an extensive ground search that began at 7 a.m., according to city Police Chief Michael Gaimari. More than 50 officers from various agencies in Cumberland County as well as Bridgeton firefighters and K9 units from across New Jersey took part.

The State Police also deployed a helicopter over the park and had help from the FBI Child Abduction Rapid Deployment unit.

Water rescue and search teams from the city’s fire department and nearby Downe Township also took part in the search. Crews eventually drained a waterway known as a “raceway," which once carried water from Sunset Lake to power local industries. That search turned up nothing, police confirmed.
N.J. Amber Alert update: Mom pleads for abducted 5-year-old girl’s safe return as search resumes
 
  • #275
Sounds like a young bozo the clown outfit. Not buying orange sneakers with red pants on a teenager: maybe red shoes? They like to match. Also, seems someone saw this kid close up or someone has an imagination. So many hours later? And a Sunoco gas station has 0 resemblance to a custard stand.

could the red pants have been sweatpants? If a teen or young man were going to play basketball he could have dressed that way. IMO.
 
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Sounds like a young bozo the clown outfit. Not buying orange sneakers with red pants on a teenager: maybe red shoes? They like to match. Also, seems someone saw this kid close up or someone has an imagination. So many hours later? And a Sunoco gas station has 0 resemblance to a custard stand.
I don't understand the point you're making. That people are lying about what they saw the POI wearing? Not every single teenager likes to match. There's always an exception to every rule. What does Sunoco not looking like a custard stand have to do with anything? Don't know how the child's mom or LE can be faulted for something being reported incorrectly by/in the media. JMO.
 
  • #278
Jeannette Reyes (@6abcJeannette) tweeted at 4:35 pm on Wed, Sep 18, 2019:
JUST IN: Spoke with Bridgeton Police Chief Michael Gaimari. He is extremely concerned about the fact that Dulce Maria Alavez has now been missing for nearly 48 hours. They are considering all possibilities: That this could have been a stranger or a known person. @6abc
(Jeannette Reyes on Twitter)

Jeannette Reyes (@6abcJeannette) tweeted at 4:44 pm on Wed, Sep 18, 2019:
Cont’d: Chief says family has been forthcoming. They’ve been interviewed several times.
(Jeannette Reyes on Twitter)
 
  • #279
Jeannette Reyes (@6abcJeannette) tweeted at 4:35 pm on Wed, Sep 18, 2019:
JUST IN: Spoke with Bridgeton Police Chief Michael Gaimari. He is extremely concerned about the fact that Dulce Maria Alavez has now been missing for nearly 48 hours. They are considering all possibilities: That this could have been a stranger or a known person. @6abc
(Jeannette Reyes on Twitter)

Jeannette Reyes (@6abcJeannette) tweeted at 4:44 pm on Wed, Sep 18, 2019:
Cont’d: Chief says family has been forthcoming. They’ve been interviewed several times.
(Jeannette Reyes on Twitter)

I think the times are wrong here. It's not 4:35 pm yet. IMO
 
  • #280
There continues to be reports about the 2 dozen basketball players, but nothing about other kids + adults on and near the playground. Were there any? Hard to believe her two kids were the only ones on the playground around 4:00/4:30 pm on a nice day. If there were other kids playing there would hopefully have been some parents there as well. I kept looking at the satellite maps and the parking area is long....extends quite a bit beyond the playground and although it's not very obvious in Google satellite photos, the playground is in a "sunken in" area beyond the basketball courts. If you park in the parking spots you're facing the opposite direction (towards baseball field) but even if you back a car in to park, you have a good view of the basketball courts but the playground is beyond that and down further since the terrain goes downward, thus you wouldn't be able to have a good view of your kids on the playground at all from the parking lot.
Perhaps other parents opted to be near the playground vs waiting in their cars since you can't see. (Again you can't tell from satellite photos but you can from user submitted photos on the parks Google info/maps page.)

Maybe all info isn't coming from just the basketball players, but oddly, they're the only park-goers being mentioned.
 
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