NJ NJ - Galloway Twp, WhtFem 12-18, UP5221, watch w/ wide leather band, Dec'71

[dizzigirl1]

You have made my new years eve saying that

 

[Roselvr]

Patricia Willingham answered my email and said that she passed the info along to Helen's case manager!

Make sure Helen gets added to the Jane Doe's rule out list on NamUs

 

[EffyElsewhere]

Has Debra T. Pscholka been considered? http://www.nampn.org/cases/pscholka_debra.html

 

[dizzigirl1]

Can't see Debra mentioned in here, nor is she on the rule out list. Not really sure i can see a resemblance but thats just me. There are bits on the doe profile that fit

 

[barbara_c]

Also, she was found right off the Garden State Parkway so could have come from NY, CT, MA, etc but dumped there and the key in her pocket could have been planted there as a clue by a perp. If it was planted, then maybe the perp was serial?

Pennsylvania a!so

 

[Springrain]

Brenda Galarza, a NamUs coordinator, emailed me today saying she would pass the information along to both cases' investigating agencies.

 

[joeytes]

Cathy Moulton is now on the rule out list.

Also the words "possible wig" were removed. Head hair now reads "Shades of blonde, brown and red brown with presence of a coloring additive"

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Has anyone submitted Deborah Spickler?

 

[Roselvr]

Brenda Galarza, a NamUs coordinator, emailed me today saying she would pass the information along to both cases' investigating agencies.

Brenda is Helen's NamUs contact. Are you saying she's going to reach out to Pamela Reed for this NJ Doe?

 

[theshadow45]

New to posting here but been observing for awhile. Might be a long shot but I can't help but wonder about Janet Kramer as her demographics seem to match and there's very little information available about her disappearance. Both Janet and this UID have DNA on file so it would seem like a automatic ruleout but as Roselvr said earlier you never want to assume anything.

 

[Alleykins]

New to posting here but been observing for awhile. Might be a long shot but I can't help but wonder about Janet Kramer as her demographics seem to match and there's very little information available about her disappearance. Both Janet and this UID have DNA on file so it would seem like a automatic ruleout but as Roselvr said earlier you never want to assume anything.

If I were a betting person, I would bet my last dollar that Janet Kramer is alive and well and on FaceBook. :angel::innocent:

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Wow! That really looks like it's her!

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Alleykins, are you going to contact namus?

 

[Alleykins]

It does look like her, doesn't it? And the location is only 20 mins from where she was born. I did send NamUs an email and a link to the page about a month ago, but maybe they just haven't gotten around to investigating it further? I don't know, but I'm fairly certain it's her. If it really is, I'm happy for the family. Outcomes like that are very rare.

 

[Alleykins]

I was looking at NCMEC's poster and the images on NamUS for this JD. There are about four different composite pictures of what she may have looked like. Maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning, but three of them don't seem to match each other very much, IMHO. What do you guys think?
http://www.missingkids.org/poster/NCMU/1122754/1
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5221

 

[Alleykins]

Man, if the dates weren't off, I would think Elizabeth Lande would be a potential match, right down to the bell bottoms:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lande_elizabeth.html

 

[Roselvr]

Man, if the dates weren't off, I would think Elizabeth Lande would be a potential match, right down to the bell bottoms:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lande_elizabeth.html

Wow, talk about close to my home. Williamstown has been really built up in the last 15 years. There is not much land left that has not been built on. Even wet lands.
The pine barrens are pretty big, I used to live by Fort Dix which is considered pine barrens.

No DNA in NamUs

 

[Alleykins]

Wow, talk about close to my home. Williamstown has been really built up in the last 15 years. There is not much land left that has not been built on. Even wet lands.
The pine barrens are pretty big, I used to live by Fort Dix which is considered pine barrens.

No DNA in NamUs

Sadly, it sounds like if she did end up there before it was developed that she might never be found, unless her body was dug up and moved.

 

[CountEveryMoment]

I think Debra Pscholka kind of looks like the UID to me, but I know that it's probably not possible because she disappeared in California and foul play was expected.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/889dfca.html

 

[Alleykins]

There is another UP case in NH similar to this one, NamUs case 11273. Found Oct 1971.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11273
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/710ufnh.html
Circumstances: On October 6, 1971 the body of a deceased female was located in a wooded area at the end of Kilton Road near the Route 101 by-pass in Bedford, NH (now the on-ramp from Route 101 to Kilton Road in Bedford). Forensic analysis indicated that the victim had died approximately one to three months before her body was discovered. The victim is a Caucasian female, approximately 25 to 35 years old and between 61 and 65 inches tall.~
DNA has been submitted but tests not complete/Dentals to be entered later
The case was created in 2013.
I mention it here because the two cases reminded me of each other and someone had mentioned that Alcala was in NH about this time? I wonder if the two cases are possibly the same perpetrator.