NJ - Mystery drones seen nightly

  • #41
I don’t understand why we can’t send helicopters up to just hang out with the drones. Hovering around with them until the drones head home and the helicopters just follow them back.
Doing nothing is baffling. We are better than this.
I saw that some New Jersey police sent up their drones to try to get video of the unidentified drones, but haven’t seen any video produced from that endeavor…

Edit: apparently there is a video: EXCLUSIVE: Drone captured on camera by Ocean County Sheriff’s Office

Cruddy quality, like everything else.
 
  • #42
Based on local posts on the Neighborhood app, sounds like no drones tonight in south jersey. Very rainy and foggy. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, or if we are in the clear.
 
  • #43
Based on local posts on the Neighborhood app, sounds like no drones tonight in south jersey. Very rainy and foggy. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, or if we are in the clear.
Rain and fog can obstruct the view of some cameras, depending on altitude, so that's probably why they're not out....
 
  • #44
I hope they see me! Union county. How trendy.
 
  • #45
This mayor says he watched the drone over his town and saw it fly in a specific pattern. He is frustrated, understandably so, that the drones are allowed to keep flying with nobody knowing that the are. They go from about 5:30pm to midnight.

 
  • #46
The public response to this issue has been very misinformed on a few things.

> "The military is able to shoot them down."
If they happen to have anti-drone weapons on hand, in that location, they could take them down (and probably wouldn't involve shooting). However, specialized tech for this purpose is not that common. There are no examples of anti-drone weapons being used on US soil against enemy drones (excluding the balloon).

> "They belong to the military."
While the military doesn't have to be up front about who owns these drones, multiple military officials have reported unidentified drones in restricted airspace, spying on military bases. Some of these cases were even reported to cause near misses with military aircraft.

There have been multiple arrests in the past of "tourists" who were driving close to restricted areas, with spy drones in their vehicle.

I think it is far more likely that there are unauthorized drones in the US. It is hard to believe that multiple military bases have lied about this issue. They are generally admitting security gaps that need attention when doing this. The lack of any communication in this situation, other than reporting unauthorized drones at Picatinny Arsenal, seems to be a sign something is happening that isn't supposed to be.

> "If it was a threat it would have been dealt with. It's just a kid playing with a drone."
Some of the "countermeasures" reported to be used by the military bases include covering sensitive hardware with nets and putting up taller fences.

The typical online sceptic implies that that there is some magical anti-drone system in place nationwide. But they don't seem to realize that incompetence, laziness, and lack of funding by the government are pretty simple assumptions you can make over something that obviously doesn't exist.
 
  • #47
The public response to this issue has been very misinformed on a few things.

> "The military is able to shoot them down."
If they happen to have anti-drone weapons on hand, in that location, they could take them down (and probably wouldn't involve shooting). However, specialized tech for this purpose is not that common. There are no examples of anti-drone weapons being used on US soil against enemy drones (excluding the balloon).

> "They belong to the military."
While the military doesn't have to be up front about who owns these drones, multiple military officials have reported unidentified drones in restricted airspace, spying on military bases. Some of these cases were even reported to cause near misses with military aircraft.

There have been multiple arrests in the past of "tourists" who were driving close to restricted areas, with spy drones in their vehicle.

I think it is far more likely that there are unauthorized drones in the US. It is hard to believe that multiple military bases have lied about this issue. They are generally admitting security gaps that need attention when doing this. The lack of any communication in this situation, other than reporting unauthorized drones at Picatinny Arsenal, seems to be a sign something is happening that isn't supposed to be.

> "If it was a threat it would have been dealt with. It's just a kid playing with a drone."
Some of the "countermeasures" reported to be used by the military bases include covering sensitive hardware with nets and putting up taller fences.

The typical online sceptic implies that that there is some magical anti-drone system in place nationwide. But they don't seem to realize that incompetence, laziness, and lack of funding by the government are pretty simple assumptions you can make over something that obviously doesn't exist.
I think these drones are too large and too numerous to be launched from an automobile. That's why I lean toward an offshore source.
 
  • #48
Delawareonline (Delaware News Journal) online December 10, 2024 article by Molly McVety entitled ‘Mystery drones have been regularly spotted over New Jersey. Are they also in Delaware?’:


Of note from the article: Some reports IIUC are saying ‘car-sized’ drones; the article itself gives a measure on the order of six (6) feet in length. MOO

Well if the fbi is investigating are they going to make a statement as to who the drones belong to ?
Omo.
 
  • #49

“In the letter, the mayors in Morris County called for a full investigation into the drones "to determine the origin, purpose and compliance with applicable regulations."

They also demanded the "implementation of measures to prevent unauthorized or unsafe drone operations" in Morris County going forward, and "clear communication to local officials, law enforcement and residents regarding the findings of this investigation."”

So NJ mayors don’t seem as assured at the Governor that the drones are harmless…
 
  • #50

“New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said the recent drones which have been sighted in the state are "very sophisticated," saying, "the minute you get your eyes on them, they go dark."”
 
  • #51

“An FBI official… repeatedly told them they had not yet identified an individual or group that may be responsible for the deluge of drones that have gained a national spotlight while fraying nerves in the Garden State.”
 
  • #52
Are kids flying the drones at night to make it looked like aliens?
 
  • #53
All those alien conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this.
 
  • #54

“In the letter, the mayors in Morris County called for a full investigation into the drones "to determine the origin, purpose and compliance with applicable regulations."

They also demanded the "implementation of measures to prevent unauthorized or unsafe drone operations" in Morris County going forward, and "clear communication to local officials, law enforcement and residents regarding the findings of this investigation."”

So NJ mayors don’t seem as assured at the Governor that the drones are harmless…

The mayors are within their rights to know who is flying these drones !
Esp. if they're not from the U.S.
Geeze.
Omo.
 
  • #55
Are kids flying the drones at night to make it looked like aliens?
I have thought that, though the biggest issue, in my opinion, is the size of the drones. They’re being reported to be ‘car-sized’. Not really feasible for a hobbyist.

Now of course, maybe they look larger again the night sky? IMO MOO OMO
 
  • #56
All those alien conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this.
They already are, although they can’t explain why the ‘UFO’s’ are FAA compliant….
 
  • #57
I don’t understand why we can’t send helicopters up to just hang out with the drones. Hovering around with them until the drones head home and the helicopters just follow them back.
Doing nothing is baffling. We are better than this.

The FBI and military doing nothing makes me think they know it's a TOP SECRET military operation so they won't confirm or deny anything.
If it was spy drones the size of a car, I'd hope our military would take them out.
 
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  • #59
Are kids flying the drones at night to make it looked like aliens?
That's a possibility-- but you'd think the fbi would've figured that out long ago ?
Also-- drones ain't cheap.
These operators would be hobbyists with $$.
Just pointing that out.

It's a valid concern for the mayors, and it should concern the governors of that state as well, I'd think !
Have they said anything, from any of these states that are seeing this ?
Omo.
 
  • #60
This mayor says he watched the drone over his town and saw it fly in a specific pattern. He is frustrated, understandably so, that the drones are allowed to keep flying with nobody knowing that the are. They go from about 5:30pm to midnight.


If they are indeed spy drones, it makes our military, FBI, and government look like idiots for NOT doing anything to stop them from spying over the military base.
 

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