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[Brightchaser47]

Congress has passed language that paves the way for a ban on drones made by Chinese company DJI, which makes as much as 80 percent of the recreational and commercial drones flying in the U.S. Officials say the drones pose a security threat. Users say there is nothing on the market that can replace them.

RSBM
Not sure about this one. I know the Chinese are known to "corner the market" in several areas, but they can't be the only ones making/capable of making these drones. Someone posted a nice chart earlier listing the countries with drone tech.

 

[Jade]

I'm curious if Mayorkas knows anything more than we do ?
Also, doubtful Elon Musk is behind this, as he is not, 'in charge' .
So is it foreign or just the Dept. of Defense maneuvers ?
It'd be nice if the current admin could clarify; if they know what's going on with the drones.
Omo.

BBM

Try telling that to Elon Musk:


The Trump name and Elon Musk’s preference for drones over traditional jet fighters helped send the shares of a drone maker into the stratosphere.

On Sunday, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX criticized the F-35, a traditional fighter, tweeting pictures of unmanned coordinated drones. That helped send shares of F-35 maker Lockheed Martin down almost 4% on Monday; the stock was down 2.4% for the week.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/unusual-machines-stock-drones-musk-trump-9142cb35


In a series of recent posts on X, Musk has become a vocal advocate for replacing manned jets like the F-35 Lightning II with drone swarms controlled by AI hive minds.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91237524/elon-musk-f35-ai-drones

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has targeted the Pentagon's prized fifth-generation stealth jet, the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter. In a series of social-media posts on X this week, he called it idiotic to continue building them and criticized the design.
>>>
His criticism of the jet comes as he prepares to target "wasteful" government spending as part of Trump's Department of Government Efficiency initiative.

Elon Musk says human-piloted fighter jets like the F-35 are obsolete. Drone tech can't yet fill the gap.


In a post on Sunday, Musk commented on a video showing a formation of hundreds of small drones saying that "Meanwhile, some idiots are still building manned fighter jets like the F-35."

Elon Musk Calls F-35 Builders ‘Idiots’, Favors Drone Swarms

Elon Musk seems to have declared war on the much-criticized F-35 on Twitter/X. Instead, Musk sees a future of drone swarms, and he may now be able to make that happen.

www.forbes.com

Kimball Musk’s company
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all imo

 

[Tbone144]

My husband seems to think it’s our government’s doing so they can make people nervous and pass stricter legislation concerning the use of drones, which sort of seems supported by this:

White House presses for Congress to provide more authority to address drones in U.S. airspace

Members of the House Intelligence Committee received a closed-door briefing on drones Tuesday from the FBI, the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

www.nbcnews.com

I found this legislation regarding drones that was enacted in 2023 that has sections that will expire in 2028.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/473/text

I’m not sure what to make of all of it.

IMOO

 

[vls12345]

US Senate to vote on bill that fuels possibility of Chinese drone ban

National Defense Authorization Act includes measures targeting Chinese drone-makers DJI and Autel Robotics, with concerns over data and national security

www.voanews.com

 

[Brightchaser47]

BBM

Try telling that to Elon Musk:


The Trump name and Elon Musk’s preference for drones over traditional jet fighters helped send the shares of a drone maker into the stratosphere.

On Sunday, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX criticized the F-35, a traditional fighter, tweeting pictures of unmanned coordinated drones. That helped send shares of F-35 maker Lockheed Martin down almost 4% on Monday; the stock was down 2.4% for the week.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/unusual-machines-stock-drones-musk-trump-9142cb35


In a series of recent posts on X, Musk has become a vocal advocate for replacing manned jets like the F-35 Lightning II with drone swarms controlled by AI hive minds.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91237524/elon-musk-f35-ai-drones

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has targeted the Pentagon's prized fifth-generation stealth jet, the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter. In a series of social-media posts on X this week, he called it idiotic to continue building them and criticized the design.
>>>
His criticism of the jet comes as he prepares to target "wasteful" government spending as part of Trump's Department of Government Efficiency initiative.

Elon Musk says human-piloted fighter jets like the F-35 are obsolete. Drone tech can't yet fill the gap.


In a post on Sunday, Musk commented on a video showing a formation of hundreds of small drones saying that "Meanwhile, some idiots are still building manned fighter jets like the F-35."

Elon Musk Calls F-35 Builders ‘Idiots’, Favors Drone Swarms

Elon Musk seems to have declared war on the much-criticized F-35 on Twitter/X. Instead, Musk sees a future of drone swarms, and he may now be able to make that happen.

www.forbes.com

Kimball Musk’s company
Why Nova - Nova Sky Stories



all imo

IDK, imo, there are pros/cons to AI...

 

[Brightchaser47]

My husband seems to think it’s our government’s doing so they can make people nervous and pass stricter legislation concerning the use of drones, which sort of seems supported by this:

White House presses for Congress to provide more authority to address drones in U.S. airspace

Members of the House Intelligence Committee received a closed-door briefing on drones Tuesday from the FBI, the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

www.nbcnews.com

I found this legislation regarding drones that was enacted in 2023 that has sections that will expire in 2028.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/473/text

I’m not sure what to make of all of it.

IMOO

Maybe, but I don't think they'd have to go this far to get support for that. jmo

 

[sds71]

This has to be why the Steelers lost on Sunday:

NFL Asks Congress to Pay More Attention to Illegal Drones at Games Amid Sightings

Drones have been a hot topic of conversation, particularly on the East Coast.

www.si.com

"Over the past several years, an increasing number of drones have flown into restricted airspace during NFL games. With the nation's attention now focused on drones, we again call on Congress to protect critical infrastructure and mass gathering such as major sporting events," Lanier said in a press release.

Commissioner Roger Goodell was reported to have met with congtressional leaders on drones earlier this month. The NFL said in 2023 drones flying into airspace restricted due to ongoing games was up 12%.

 

[Recidivist]

BBM

Try telling that to Elon Musk:


The Trump name and Elon Musk’s preference for drones over traditional jet fighters helped send the shares of a drone maker into the stratosphere.

On Sunday, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX criticized the F-35, a traditional fighter, tweeting pictures of unmanned coordinated drones. That helped send shares of F-35 maker Lockheed Martin down almost 4% on Monday; the stock was down 2.4% for the week.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/unusual-machines-stock-drones-musk-trump-9142cb35


In a series of recent posts on X, Musk has become a vocal advocate for replacing manned jets like the F-35 Lightning II with drone swarms controlled by AI hive minds.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91237524/elon-musk-f35-ai-drones

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has targeted the Pentagon's prized fifth-generation stealth jet, the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter. In a series of social-media posts on X this week, he called it idiotic to continue building them and criticized the design.
>>>
His criticism of the jet comes as he prepares to target "wasteful" government spending as part of Trump's Department of Government Efficiency initiative.

Elon Musk says human-piloted fighter jets like the F-35 are obsolete. Drone tech can't yet fill the gap.


In a post on Sunday, Musk commented on a video showing a formation of hundreds of small drones saying that "Meanwhile, some idiots are still building manned fighter jets like the F-35."

Elon Musk Calls F-35 Builders ‘Idiots’, Favors Drone Swarms

Elon Musk seems to have declared war on the much-criticized F-35 on Twitter/X. Instead, Musk sees a future of drone swarms, and he may now be able to make that happen.

www.forbes.com

Kimball Musk’s company
Why Nova - Nova Sky Stories



all imo

Elon has a brilliant mind. He is probably correct in his ideas and visions.

 

[Gigiky]

As a rule I would usually take something like this with a grain of salt. I would think that its all a bunch of smoke and mirrors. But something is very off. I really feel it in my gut. Like this is just the start of something very big. And I'm don't know about how most are feeling but I'm here to tell you I'm really worried and not ashamed to say scared!

 

[Chimera]

FBI says thousands of people are reporting legal drones, airplanes, stars as suspicious

The Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Department of Defense, and the Federal Aviation Administration released a joint statement on drone sightings

kmyu.tv

Maybe legal drones ?
Could be.
Not saying it isn't for sure.

But with all due respect to the fbi, I think most people know the difference between a large, unfamiliar -- and unknown drone, vs. stars & airplanes !
Smh.
Omo.

 

[OddOneOut]

I just found this article about drones spotted near military bases around the U.S.
MSN

JMO: I have seen videos where it looks like drones are spraying something at the ground.

 

[Deleted member 341776]

The temporary flight restrictions, which are set to last until Jan. 17, have been implemented beginning Wednesday in the following locations: Hamilton, Bridgewater, Cedar Grove, North Brunswick, Metuchen, Evesham, Camden, Gloucester City, Westampton, South Brunswick, Edison, Branchburg, Sewaren, Jersey City, Harrison, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Winslow, Burlington, Clifton, Hancocks Bridge and Kearny.

The restrictions say no uncrewed aircraft systems can operate within a nautical miles of the airspace specified in each Notice to Airmen, or NOTAM, including from the ground up to 400 feet. Recreational drones are allowed to operate up to 400 feet, under FAA rules.

The previously issued temporary flight restrictions for Bedminster and Picatinny Arsenal remain in place.

The government may use "deadly force" against the drones if they pose an "imminent security threat," the NOTAM said.

FAA temporarily bans drones in parts of New Jersey, New York adds flight restrictions

The government may use "deadly force" against the drones if they pose an "imminent security threat," the FAA said in a Notice to Airmen.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Jade]

Elon has a brilliant mind. He is probably correct in his ideas and visions.

I agree.

EM makes a good point that the drones are preferable over loss of life in the fighter jets.

Financially the military and commercial use of drones makes sense as well.

I just really hadn’t let the fact that I know we didn’t have control over the activity above our homes sink in before all this.




All imo

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

This has to be why the Steelers lost on Sunday:

NFL Asks Congress to Pay More Attention to Illegal Drones at Games Amid Sightings

Drones have been a hot topic of conversation, particularly on the East Coast.

www.si.com

"Over the past several years, an increasing number of drones have flown into restricted airspace during NFL games. With the nation's attention now focused on drones, we again call on Congress to protect critical infrastructure and mass gathering such as major sporting events," Lanier said in a press release.

Commissioner Roger Goodell was reported to have met with congtressional leaders on drones earlier this month. The NFL said in 2023 drones flying into airspace restricted due to ongoing games was up 12%.

Wait, so the NFL can track drone activities…… and have statistics to support their perspective as relates to their coverage and apparent televised content…… hmmmmmm….. Can they help DHS with this? SMH /sarc. MOO

 

[sds71]

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map

The Federal Aviation Administration has now issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to security reasons.

6abc.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869754798289093029

 

[Jade]

FBI says thousands of people are reporting legal drones, airplanes, stars as suspicious

The Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Department of Defense, and the Federal Aviation Administration released a joint statement on drone sightings

kmyu.tv

Maybe legal drones ?
Could be.
Not saying it isn't for sure.

But with all due respect to the fbi, I think most people know the difference between a large, unfamiliar -- and unknown drone, vs. stars & airplanes !
Smh.
Omo.

I saw a large drone at night. It was difficult to recognize. It was dark!

Even with a bright moon the lights of the moving craft itself blur the form somewhat so it looks sort of like a helicopter or one of those long wing experimental planes.

It was loud was what drew my attention to the sky. Having read a bit here about them I took a closer look than I would have ordinarily.

I had a long field of vision with no obstructions so I was able to have an extended viewing time to think what it was. I later found a picture of one in an article that looked just like what I suspected I saw to confirm.

It was very obvious then I don’t think I will miss identifying one in the future.

This link will help anyone else to make the determination between plane and drone but at the time I only could tell it had lights like a plane but not a plane.

We will all be way too familiar with drone flights way too soon, imo, flying over homes at night is going to get old real fast.

Will we be picking homes out of drone flight paths like we do with airports? Will there be flight paths or will it be like the Jetsons with drones flying willy nilly as needed here and there?


Are those drone or aircraft lights in the night sky? Graphics explain the difference



all imo

 

[dotr]

Ryan Pickrell Sep 27, 2019

Nearly 100 countries have military drones, and it's changing the way the world prepares for war

30 more countries have military drones than a decade ago. "I think drones will be a ubiquitous presence on future battlefields," an expert said.

www.businessinsider.com

• ''Military drone technology has spread to 95 countries, a massive increase over the only 60 countries that possessed this kind of technology roughly a decade ago, a new report from the Center for the Study of the Drone revealed.
• "I think drones will be a ubiquitous presence on future battlefields," Dan Gettinger, drone expert and author of the report, told Insider, explaining that this technology is contributing to an evolution in warfare.
• As this technology continues to spread, the US and other countries, will need to think clearly about the impact and the necessary response. Recent incidents, such as Iran's downing of a US drone or the attacks on Saudi oil sites, have already made this clear.

The number of countries with military drones has skyrocketed over the past decade, a new report revealed, showing that nearly 100 countries have this kind of technology incorporated into their armed forces.''

 

[Betty P]

My husband seems to think it’s our government’s doing so they can make people nervous and pass stricter legislation concerning the use of drones, which sort of seems supported by this:

White House presses for Congress to provide more authority to address drones in U.S. airspace

Members of the House Intelligence Committee received a closed-door briefing on drones Tuesday from the FBI, the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

www.nbcnews.com

I found this legislation regarding drones that was enacted in 2023 that has sections that will expire in 2028.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/473/text

I’m not sure what to make of all of it.

IMOO

JMO, its Dept of Defense and their contractors who want Congress to give them more funding to buy anti-drone systems.

In the meantime, the CT nuts on the ground are putting pilots and passengers in danger:

FAA says pilot reported laser strikes are up dramatically since the drone mystery

Pilots are reporting a massive uptick in being hit by laser pointers from the ground since the drone panic took off earlier this month, according to new data from the Federal Aviation Administration.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Simply Southern]

FAA temporarily bans drones in parts of New Jersey, New York adds flight restrictions

The government may use "deadly force" against the drones if they pose an "imminent security threat," the FAA said in a Notice to Airmen.

abcnews.go.com

About time!!! They had the authority all along. Moo