NJ NJ - West Deptford, Mantua Creek, BlkMale 24-45, UP1627, chewed teeth, lung disease, Jan'90

[Migmuu]

UP#1627

DEMOGRAPHICS
Age: 24 - 34 years old
Race: African-American
Sex: Male
Height: 71 inches (5'11)
Weight: 170 inches
Body conditions: Not recognisable - Decomposition/putrefaction
Postmortem interval: 1989 - 1990

CIRCUMSTANCES
Found floating in a creek in Gloucester County, NJ

PHYSICAL
Hair color: Black
Eye color: Brown

CLOTHING AND ACCESSORIES
Clothing: Maroon overcoat, black jacket, orange muscle t-shirt
Shoes: Running shoes

IDENTIFIERS
Fingerprints: Available and entered
Dentals: Available and entered
DNA: Sample currently not available

 

[Migmuu]

This man was added to NamUs about a week and a half ago.

Ernest Edmonds

Age (36) is within 2 years of the 24 - 34 age range
Race (African-American) matches
UID's height is right in the middle of Edmonds' age range (5'9 - 6'1)
Hair color (black) matches
Eye color (brown) matches
Clothing somewhat matches; like the UID, Edmonds had on a rust wool overcoat and running shoes
Timing (one month between date of disappearance and the date the body was recovered) is consistent
Distance (21.4 miles between Philly and Gloucester County) checks out
Circumstances seem to line up

The only big inconsistency is that Edmonds is listed as being 140 pounds, while the UID weighed 170. But it's a 25-year-old case, so who knows if those numbers are accurate.

 

[Migmuu]

I contacted the Gloucester County ME's Office. The lady on the other line said that they only keep files on hand if they're less than 10 years old, so the UID's case is archived and it may take some time for her to locate the file. But she'll forward the info to the man in the NJ State Police who handles UID cases and he'll contact me if he has any questions.

 

[carbuff]

Good eye as usual

 

[carbuff]

No obvious updates -- there's no ruleouts list on his Namus page, but it's been updated a couple of times recently.

Edmonds has DNA but no fingerprints or dentals. The deceased has dentals and fingerprints but no DNA. They probably can't make it a ruleout or match.

 

[madamx]

I found this.. Is this the same UID? Height and age seem off but everything else seems like its the same UID?

http://www.njsp.org/unidentified/gloucester/u405702826.shtml

http://www.njsp.org/unidentified/gloucester/index.shtml


Unidentified Deceased Black Male
Case Information
The victim was found in Mantua Creek, West Deptford Township, New Jersey. He has a slender build, wide shoulders and narrow waist. He also has bunions on his toes, fallen arches and an out step. Victim has badly chewed-down teeth and had chronic lung disease.

NIC #
CASE #
U405702826
MCU900031and H02590-13
Date Body Found
Estimated Date of Death
January 30, 1990
November / December 1989




Biological Profile
Age
35 - 45 years
Sex
Male
Race
Black
Height
6'2" - 6'3"
Weight
155 - 165 lbs.
Hair
Black
Eyes
Brown

CLOTHING
Maroon 3/4-length wool overcoat, black suede waist-length "Blazers by Ampus" brand jacket-size 38L, sleeveless V-neck red sweater, low-cut black and gray "Trax" brand running shoes, size 10. The victim had a pack of Kool Super Long cigarettes in his coat.
JEWELRY
*
MISC.
Close full beard and mustache.
Fingerprints and dental available for comparison

 

[carbuff]

Hm, I think that has to be the same person despite the discrepancies. Deptford Township is in Gloucester County, so that fits, and the date found matches.

 

[madamx]

http://www.nampn.org/cases/johnson_donald.html

Above Images: Johnson


Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: November 18, 1989 from Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee
Classification: Missing
Date Of Birth: August 29, 1969
Age: 20
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 190 lbs.
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Brown
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Case Number: 89-301255


Details of Disappearance
Donald Johnson was last seen at Boyd Hall, Tennessee State University on November 18, 1989. Donald disappeared without a trace and has not made family contact.

 

[carbuff]

Johnson certainly looks possible.

 

[FindHG]

Johnson certainly looks possible.

The eyes, the space between their outer edges, his chin and jaw seem less similar?

 

[Migmuu]

So it’s been about 4 years since I submitted this match, and I never heard anything and Edmonds still isn’t on the rule-out list. I’m going to call soon and see if he’s been ruled out and they just didn’t update it.

Edit: Also, good Lord, 2015 was FOUR years ago?

 

[Melt71]

Age has been updated in Namus to read 35-45 with a new rendering in which he looks a lot slimmer in the face than the previous drawing.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Diavola]

Bump, have there been any rule-outs for him?

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Bump, have there been any rule-outs for him?

None visible to the public.

 

[Diavola]

Bumping. Unidentified for over 33 years...