GUILTY NM - Paul, 34, & Tryone Posey, 44, Marilea Schmid, 13, slain, Hondo, 5 July 2004

[Linda7NJ]

The truth just like he has since the trial started. He is a man of honor and integrity even if he is a defense attorney....one in a million.

I don't believe it, sorry.

 

[less0305]

I really thinkthe truth is somewhere in the middle of all this mess.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[fundiva]

Verlin likely has contact with the Prosecution

I believe that cody's attorney would have better first hand information about what his client was doing or not doing, as opposed to the prosecution or Verne.

 

[tybee204]

I believe that cody's attorney would have better first hand information about what his client was doing or not doing, as opposed to the prosecution or Verne.

Cody has been in the Custody of the State since the murders occurred. The Prosecution is "The State". The Prosecution likely has every Incident report made on Cody since his first day of incarceration. All of those reports will more then likely be presented in the sentencing hearing to show Cody's proclivity towards violence.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

Cody has been in the Custody of the State since the murders occurred. The Prosecution is "The State". The Prosecution likely has every Incident report made on Cody since his first day of incarceration. All of those reports will more then likely be presented in the sentencing hearing to show Cody's proclivity towards violence.

I suspect the fact of the matter is that juvie detention centers are full of gangs, gang violence, and that fights, rapes, and other such behavior occurs on a regular basis. High profile inmates tend to get a lot more grief than others, as they are often assigned "targets" by the gangs, who use them for new fish looking to join up. If you are attacked in jail and DON'T fight back, you've effectively branded yourself a . Or dead.

 

[nanandjim]

I suspect the fact of the matter is that juvie detention centers are full of gangs, gang violence, and that fights, rapes, and other such behavior occurs on a regular basis. High profile inmates tend to get a lot more grief than others, as they are often assigned "targets" by the gangs, who use them for new fish looking to join up. If you are attacked in jail and DON'T fight back, you've effectively branded yourself a . Or dead.

I totally agree. I can well imagine that Cody was attacked first. I certainly hope that this kid gets some kind of treatment and rehabilitation for once in his life.

 

[tybee204]

Cody Posey was apparently Charged and Prosecuted for battery while in detention for one of his acts of "Self Defense"

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[concernedperson]

I am just glad that I am on the victimology list as lessor.Being older accepts that you aren't as viable. Being younger also represents that no one is culpable. So, all the inbetweens have a good hope of living a good life. I am not being facetious, I have serious concerns. If Cody was 100% guilty I would be the first to stand up and say but I can't. I just can't. This is the only case I have been involved with that I am looking at differently. Why? Because it hits close to home. I don't know . For some reason this child deserves a different outlook. I hope that someone can give me my heart back.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

Cody Posey was apparently Charged and Prosecuted for battery while in detention for one of his acts of "Self Defense"

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And did they charge the other as well? Sometimes they just charge everyone involved if they can't figure out if Peter hit Paul or Paul slapped Peter.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think alot of things are going to come out between now and when Cody is sentenced. If there is any truth to Cody hitting a Guard (which in itself is a felony) and that Cody served 80 days in Solitary because of it that could reflect badly on his defenses claim that he is not violent.

I really think the truth is somewhere in the middle of all this mess.

I couldn't agree more tybee. The whole truth is not what has been told, now there may be parts and snippets of truth but there is much that we will never know imo. When all the others that lived in the home with Cody are six feet under......Cody can make his own truth and we will never be aware of how much of it is really truthful or just him knowing that dead people can tell no tales. I think he planned it just this way to remove all who could tell their side of the story.

I keep thinking it is so ironic that the very one that Cody said at first he killed because he didn't want her telling or nothing may be the very one that sends Cody away for a very long time. Had he killed just Paul and Tryone he may have had a better chance of pulling this off but when he killed the very sister he told LE he got along with he then put himself in imminent peril. So even though Cody made sure Marilea could tell no one in a way she did and that jury heard her cries for justice and it was given.

IMO

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

And did they charge the other as well? Sometimes they just charge everyone involved if they can't figure out if Peter hit Paul or Paul slapped Peter.

I dont know but usually if there are charges brought it is not your typical fight. Could very well be that Cody was the aggressor in the battery case. If it is true he hit a guard then they WILL charge him as they are not going to put up with that kind of foolishness from any kid.

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I believe that cody's attorney would have better first hand information about what his client was doing or not doing, as opposed to the prosecution or Verne.

No due to him being in jail the Prosecutor would know every infraction and report about Cody Posey from the time he went in there.

Believe me they will have all of those records and they will be presented at hearing. Even Beth said Cody had been in several fights. IMO, Cody has some major issues.

IMO

Ocean

 

[kathrynr448]

No due to him being in jail the Prosecutor would know every infraction and report about Cody Posey from the time he went in there.

Believe me they will have all of those records and they will be presented at hearing. Even Beth said Cody had been in several fights. IMO, Cody has some major issues.

IMO

Ocean

I think he has major issues as well, and is not the sweet boy with the good heart who was cornered into triple murder. IMO

 

[rachelslaw]

No due to him being in jail the Prosecutor would know every infraction and report about Cody Posey from the time he went in there.

Believe me they will have all of those records and they will be presented at hearing. Even Beth said Cody had been in several fights. IMO, Cody has some major issues.

IMO

Ocean

I hope so, Ocean. Frankly I'm surprised by those who will do and say anything to excuse his actions. I find it odd that those that support his actions ignore what he did to his step-sister, or find excuses for that murder as well. It's good to know that I am not the only one who questions his behavior and feels that he has major issues. Fortunately, the Judge will not be swayed by theatrics and will render the sentence based on the facts both before, during and after the murders.

IMO

 

[kathrynr448]

I hope so, Ocean. Frankly I'm surprised by those who will do and say anything to excuse his actions. I find it odd that those that support his actions ignore what he did to his step-sister, or find excuses for that murder as well. It's good to know that I am not the only one who questions his behavior and feels that he has major issues. Fortunately, the Judge will not be swayed by theatrics and will render the sentence based on the facts both before, during and after the murders.

IMO

I think I am beyond surprised and into nauseated...literally. I really don't understand what it is about this defendant that he has so many giddy supporters. Such a heinous crime and the only people being dragged thru the mud are the 3 people who can't talk.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I think I am beyond surprised and into nauseated...literally. I really don't understand what it is about this defendant that he has so many giddy supporters. Such a heinous crime and the only people being dragged thru the mud are the 3 people who can't talk.

I wouldn't call Cody's supporters "giddy". Most people viewing this case have a problem with an absolutist mindset. Demonizing Cody is as pointless as canonizing Marilea. There is soemthing off kilter about expecting a child to somehow save himself AND his family, despite clear evidence Cody being allowed to save himself by running away or trying to get help from the state had repeatedly failed. No matter how you look at it, it's clear that the state and every adult this boy came into contact with FAILED to prevent this from happening. Delbert Paul Posey spent years loading the gun and pointing it at his head, but no one ever saw fit to keep the inevitable from occuring.The kid needs treatment, he needs to be locked up for a good long while, but not for the rest of his natural life.

And in some alternate world where Cody didn't kill his family, things would have kept on like they were keeping on, the physical & sexual abuse slowly snowballing until Cody was finally old enough to flee or ended up killing himself via booze or pills or a gun. And Marilea would have grown up and hooked up with some younger version of her stepfather and eventually find herself on CourtTV, being demonized by you and everyone else, wondering what kind of woman could stand around and let some monster rape/beat her children, etc.

Abuse is a self-devouring serpent. No beginning, no end, unless someone steps in to change things. But it shouldn't have to be the children getting the snot beaten out of them.

 

[concernedperson]

BillyGoat Gruff, your compassion is awe inspiring and your position is something that others should behold.I know I was never giddy and quite shocked at my response.But there you go.

 

[kathrynr448]

BillyGoat Gruff, your compassion is awe inspiring and your position is something that others should behold.I know I was never giddy and quite shocked at my response.But there you go.

I wasn't referring to anyone on this board....I was commenting on what I have seen generally. I don't believe in lwop for juveniles. I also do not think being released at 18 is an appropriate sentence for 3 murders. But, it's not up to me, it's up to the judge. It so happens that I have seen a number of people say extremely nasty things about the girl, the prosecutors and any and all prosecution witnesses. Certainly there is a way to support one's position for a light sentence for Cody Posey without resorting to these tactics.

I certainly was not trying to insult anyone on this board with my comment, and I apologize for doing so.

 

[less0305]

I usually agree with BGG, but I'm not sure we can surmise that Marilea would grow up to marry someone like her step-father and be on CourtTV down the road with abused kids and so on, particularly since Marilea's life and any future she had was taken from her at the age of 13 before she had any chance at an adult life with or without a husband, with or without children. Someone else decided her fate, someone who did not have that right. If Cody were concerned about her future, it would seem that he would have killed the big, mean old step-father to save Marilea a life of abuse and hardship and allowed her to live a better life without her step-father. As it was, he felt it necessary to murder her, and by his own admission, to keep her quiet.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I usually agree with BGG, but I'm not sure we can surmise that Marilea would grow up to marry someone like her step-father and be on CourtTV down the road with abused kids and so on, particularly since Marilea's life and any future she had was taken from her at the age of 13 before she had any chance at an adult life with or without a husband, with or without children. Someone else decided her fate, someone who did not have that right. If Cody were concerned about her future, it would seem that he would have killed the big, mean old step-father to save Marilea a life of abuse and hardship and allowed her to live a better life without her step-father. As it was, he felt it necessary to murder her, and by his own admission, to keep her quiet.

If you read the accounts of Marilea's behavior and treatment of Cody, which was testified to by her friends at school and other ranch hands, as well as the accounts of abusive treatment towards her by her parents (mostly the step-father), you get a rather grim picture of her very likely future.

The fact that Marilea, to all accounts, identified with the abusers, doing whatever was necessary to curry favor, and not the abused does not forecast a Happy And Loving Personality As An Adult. If you've ever read the accounts of women who either stand by and allow spouses or boyfriends to abuse their children or, even worse, participate in it, and wonder "How can a mother allow this to happen to her child?", you'll find they were all similarly "conditioned" in childhood by abusive parents. This is NOT a rare case.

Paul Posey and everyone who enabled him and/or turned a blind eye to his behavior has as much to do with destroying the choices of everyone on the farm as Cody.