GUILTY NM - Renezmae Calzada, 5, found deceased, Rio Arriba County, 8 Sept 2019 *Arrest*

[AbbeyBabbey]

Is there riverbank access near where she was found? I have only seen that river once and it was from a giant bridge over a giant ravine.

That, I don't know. There are no swimming holes as there is an abundance of places to swim or play in [clean] water in the mountains nearby. I'm not an angler either and I don't know the fishing spots or river access within the town limits. If I remember correctly, there is no public access below the Santa Clara Bridge across the stretch of Santa Clara land with river frontage. They are VERY protective of their land.

Google Maps

"The pueblo is located about a mile (1.6 km.) south of Española on N.M. 30. Visitors to the pueblo must check in at the governor’s office. Photography, sketching and video recording permits are available throughout most of the year but are not available on feast days."
(some tribes in NM will not allow ANY picture-taking on their land)

 

[margarita25]

That, I don't know. There are no swimming holes as there is an abundance of places to swim or play in [clean] water in the mountains nearby. I'm not an angler either and I don't know the fishing spots or river access within the town limits. If I remember correctly, there is no public access below the Santa Clara Bridge across the stretch of Santa Clara land with river frontage. They are VERY protective of their land.

Google Maps

"The pueblo is located about a mile (1.6 km.) south of Española on N.M. 30. Visitors to the pueblo must check in at the governor’s office. Photography, sketching and video recording permits are available throughout most of the year but are not available on feast days."
(some tribes in NM will not allow ANY picture-taking on their land)

Gosh the anticipation of this next PC.

Any thoughts on where you think the entrance point of her disposal might have been, AB? (I hope you don’t mind if I abbreviate.)

I guess we don’t even know exaaactly where she was located (yet), do we?

What about an entrance point maybe somewhere like “PTL”? (Heather Elvis Case reference)...Landing dock, boat dock..

Rafting dock...do they even have those?

(Ok, I think it’s time to turn off my phone (and hide it from myself). We’ll find out everything when we find out.

Again, what a collaboration of agencies and organizations.

Also noting from above:

“fishing spots”

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The news video clip at this link has helicopter views of the searchers on the river at approximately :30 - 40 and :50 - 1:15.

FBI takes over investigation into Española girl’s death

Cool, thanks...Marking/tagging for potential future reference / BBM:

“helicopter views of the searchers of the river”, (look forward to viewing tomorrow, cross eyed.)

 

[margarita25]

Wait a minute...in the first PC they said “Probation and Parole” was assisting, because (paraphrasing) they’re good at going door to door...hmmmm

MT had 3 outstanding warrants in B County...would P&P be the contact on that..was he on probation? Just wondering...They did kinda throw in at the end he was in custody only after being directly asked at the end of the PC.

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Marking for reference, thank you:

All 3 bridges always have traffic all day and evening, even on weekends. There is no way to stop, jump out, throw something over and not be seen. However, I do think she was placed in the river somewhere North of the Santa Clara Bridge and probably even North of the "Old Bridge" which is maybe a couple of football field's length from the SCB.

(I checked those sites for river-flow too and couldn't make heads or tales of it.)

From above / BBM / Marking for reference (thank you):

“However, I do think she was placed in the river somewhere North of the Santa Clara Bridge and probably even North of the "Old Bridge" which is maybe a couple of football field's length from the SCB.

(I checked those sites for river-flow too and couldn't make heads or tales of it.”

 

[MsFacetious]

I'm familiar with bio, step, adoptive, boyfriend, etc. but I've never heard of "Acknowledged Father." News to me! MOO

In some states you can sign an acknowledgment of paternity. So if Malcolm met Mom while she was pregnant and bio father did not want to be involved, he could sign that claiming her and be listed on the birth certificate. Some states even require it if the parents are not married.

If this is what happened it would explain why mom didn’t call him her stepfather. However it would also explain the police mentioning the bio father, because they are aware of him and cleared him. It would also explain why Malcolm might have both kids and get visitation with both kids.

We have this situation a few times in my family tree. That is the scenario that makes the most sense to me.

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

Gosh the anticipation of this next PC.

Any thoughts on where you think the entrance point of her disposal might have been, AB? (I hope you don’t mind if I abbreviate.)

I guess we don’t even know exaaactly where she was located (yet), do we?

What about an entrance point maybe somewhere like “PTL”? (Heather Elvis Case reference)...Landing dock, boat dock..

Rafting dock...do they even have those?

(Ok, I think it’s time to turn off my phone (and hide it from myself). We’ll find out everything when we find out.

Again, what a collaboration of agencies and organizations.

Also noting from above:

“fishing spots”

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Cool, thanks...Marking/tagging for potential future reference / BBM:

“helicopter views of the searchers of the river”, (look forward to viewing tomorrow, cross eyed.)

AB doesn't bother me! lol
No recreational access points.
No boat ramps.
No docking areas.
I've never even seen a raft or an inner-tube in this area.

I'll just come out and say what I've been hinting at (tried to be nice!): Once the Rio Grande enters the Espanola Valley, it becomes a nasty, dirty, muddy, slow moving waterway that is only good for {{{certain anglers-KWIM?}}} irrigation and wildlife (and hydroelectricity at the dams) and continues that way all the way to where it leaves the southernmost state line into Texas. It is the lifeblood of the state but not a good "recreation/play in" waterway after it leaves Taos Canyon except at White Rock Canyon (I've never been there), Cochiti Lake, Elephant Butte Lake, Caballo Lake and Percha Dam. I would not even put my toes in that water anywhere near the town limits of Espanola and I certainly would NEVER eat a fish taken out of there!!! [I grew up in the Sierras: the crystal clear waters of the North and Middle forks of the American Rivers were my playground]

I found this:
"The National Monument ends where the river leaves Orilla Verde and passes the village of Pilar, on Hwy 68. The 6-mile long Racecourse stretch of whitewater starts at Pilar and ends at the Taos/Rio Arriba County line. This is followed by the 7-mile long Bosque (“cottonwood grove”) stretch, to the point where the river enters the broad Espanola Valley. The Bosque offers placid floating. The river passes to the west of Santa Fe in White Rock Canyon, which ends in Cochiti Reservoir. From this point on, the river is very de-watered and of little interest to recreationists. What is left of the river leaves New Mexico just north of El Paso, Texas."

 

[MsFacetious]

I was going to say I didn’t think it would have appealed to a child to swim in.... and also that I hate she was in that nasty water.

 

[katydid23]

Yes, the only way I could believe she wandered there on her own was if it was a swimming area that her family had taken her to several times.

But that does not seem likely.

I think they have the right person in jail and they know it. They just don't want to say so publicly at this time.

 

[katydid23]

Where was the baby brother at this time? I am assuming he was being watched by the same man?

 

[CharlestonGal]

Yes, the only way I could believe she wandered there on her own was if it was a swimming area that her family had taken her to several times.

But that does not seem likely.

I think they have the right person in jail and they know it. They just don't want to say so publicly at this time.

I think so, too. He's still in Arriba County jail on the warrants. No new charges. No transfer to Albq, who doesn't seem too eager to go up and get him. No bond. He is well and truly stuck, it seems. He can't bond out until he gets back to Albq (Bernalillo County).

There is a US District Court in Santa Fe, so I wonder if they will transfer him to Santa Fe County Jail? I'll start checking there to see when he is booked in (assuming he is charged, of course).

 

[CharlestonGal]

Where was the baby brother at this time? I am assuming he was being watched by the same man?

Or not watched, as it seems. /sarcasm on.

 

[CharlestonGal]

"For the past few days, some community members around Española have wondered if there’s a kidnapper on the loose.

When KRQE News 13 asked the FBI if parents should be worried that a suspect could still be out there, the FBI said they “don’t believe the public is at risk.”

FBI takes over investigation into Española girl’s death

How can they say that? They say MT is not a suspect, no one else is in custody, meaning the offender is still out there. They are calling Renezmae's death "suspicious". How can assure the public they are not at risk?

 

[CharlestonGal]

Well, don't feel alone; I share in your confusion. I have no idea what her affiliation with the pueblo may be but I would like to know as well.

I can say that I think VM and MT were living separately. and I base that on the statement made by the Special Agent in Charge that they searched within a 1/2 mile of both homes. That's what I'm going with this five minutes, anyway. MOO

Mom is from Santa Clara Pueblo. I don't know if that makes a difference.

On another note, I wonder if mom knows people are posting on her FB in her absence. Some of it not very nice.

 

[VRQ112]

I haven't been on much today. I have some catching up to do.

But with that said, I think the big clue I read is that a volunteer parent at the school noticed RC had been absent for 3 days. She eventually decided she should call the cops the article said. Could it be that that RC parents/family got wind that a woman from her school was about to call the police about her absents and they all suddenly had to come up with this story an explanation for something that already happened? Perhaps she wasn't at school for 3 days because she had already been hurt long before the Amber Alert day? So before the cops came to them over truancy they made a story first... A cover up story about abduction. I mean she missed school from Aug 30 and every other school day after Aug 30 up until the day they reported her missing. I think more than 1 of the people in that family knows what happened to RC. Just speculation, JMO. Still, the missing from school for 3 days already before this happened sounds fishy at the least, right? The autopsy should show how many days she was dead.

This case just has my mind so wrapped up in it. This poor baby girl. The sadness and pain she must have felt. It haunts me.

 

[CharlestonGal]

"When asked about an alleged suspect who had been named by media Tuesday, FBI public affairs officer Frank Fisher said the FBI doesn’t talk about those aspects of the investigation until someone has been charged."

Sad Ending To Search For Renezmae Calzada, Investigation Not Over

So how long can they hold him without charging him? He's been in custody for the 5th day now, conveniently on out of county warrants. And it seems to me that ALBQ is dragging their feet, purposely or not, in picking him up so he can see a judge on the warrants. Misdemeanor warrants, at that. If he is not the perp, he is really getting screwed over.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Warrant Search Results
24 HOUR ANONYMOUS HOT LINE 843-STOP

9/13/2019 5:48:00 AM
Name Warrant Issue Date Case Type Charge Desc DOB
TORRES, MALCOLM T4DW2018001730 2019 MISDEMEANOR WARRANT DWI FIRST OFFENSE 10/02/1993
TORRES, MALCOLM T4DW2018001730 2019 MISDEMEANOR WARRANT AGGRAVATED DWI 10/02/1993

Total Records: 2

Bernalillo County Fugitive Warrant Search

 

[oceanblueeyes]

"For the past few days, some community members around Española have wondered if there’s a kidnapper on the loose.

When KRQE News 13 asked the FBI if parents should be worried that a suspect could still be out there, the FBI said they “don’t believe the public is at risk.”

FBI takes over investigation into Española girl’s death

How can they say that? They say MT is not a suspect, no one else is in custody, meaning the offender is still out there. They are calling Renezmae's death "suspicious". How can assure the public they are not at risk?

Morning CG, and all!

I'm with you on this. It makes me soooo frustrated everytime its said, which sadly is often said no matter the jurisdiction or state.

Unless they know who the murderer or murderers are they shouldn't say....they BELIEVE anything when speaking to the affected communities.

I can't count the times they have been flat out wrong, and when the suspects were finally found, and arrested, it turned out both children, and other adults were in danger because the ones doing the murders were complete strangers to the victims.

They can say this I suppose because they believe RC may have been specifically targeted, but even that can be misleading because as we all sadly know stranger pedophiles often target specific children to kidnap, rape, and murder them when they see the opportunity to do so, and do it in the blink of an eye.

I'm not saying this is the case in MaeMaes case at all, but I just wish they would wait when espousing the same BELIEFS until they can say one way or the other what the affirmative answer really is... which is far from just believing something when the case is ongoing, and not solved.

Of course citizens can think for themselves just fine, and until the police comes out releasing they have charged someone/s they are on high alert anyway whether its adults who had been murdered or children like little MaeMae.

Jmho.

 

[CharlestonGal]

"Torres is being held on warrants for failure to comply with requirements of his sentencing after a DWI conviction in Albuquerque. He is scheduled to appear in Bernalillo Metropolitan Court on Sept. 25 for a conditions of release hearing."

Renezmae's mom sought to see children

Well, that answers that question. Looks like MT will be in jail until at least Sep 25th.

 

[happyday]

I haven't been on much today. I have some catching up to do.

But with that said, I think the big clue I read is that a volunteer parent at the school noticed RC had been absent for 3 days. She eventually decided she should call the cops the article said. Could it be that that RC parents/family got wind that a woman from her school was about to call the police about her absents and they all suddenly had to come up with this story an explanation for something that already happened? Perhaps she wasn't at school for 3 days because she had already been hurt long before the Amber Alert day? So before the cops came to them over truancy they made a story first... A cover up story about abduction. I mean she missed school from Aug 30 and every other school day after Aug 30 up until the day they reported her missing. I think more than 1 of the people in that family knows what happened to RC. Just speculation, JMO. Still, the missing from school for 3 days already before this happened sounds fishy at the least, right? The autopsy should show how many days she was dead.

This case just has my mind so wrapped up in it. This poor baby girl. The sadness and pain she must have felt. It haunts me.

Yep. This is exactly what I think happened.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

My bolding.
In a news release sent out on Thursday, the U.S. Attorney’s office said the FBI is taking over the case: “Based on the location of the area in which the child went missing and any alleged crimes may have occurred, which appear to be within the boundaries of Santa Clara Pueblo, and the child’s affiliation with the Pueblo.”
FBI takes over investigation into Española girl’s death
All my bolding.
This may answer my earlier question where I asked if Renezmae was Native American. It hasn't been specifically stated in msm but the U.S. Attorney's statement I bolded above seems to imply that she was connected to the Santa Clara Pueblo. It may not matter, I'm just curious since Federal involvement sometimes means information will be slow in coming.

Renezmae attended Eutimio "Tim" Salazar III Fairview Elementary School, which according to Google Maps is not part of Santa Clara Pueblo, nor is the area she went missing from - msm said near the intersection of South McCurdy Rd. and Tesuque Drive. Torres' home was reported to be on Arch Rd., which is in that same area.

So apart from Renezmae's body being found on the Santa Clara Pueblo is the FBI also saying she was affiliated with the tribe?

I'm so confused! Heck, I still don't know if Torres and Renezmae's mother were living together. Msm reports are all over the place.

I dont think she is part of the tribe.

When the FBI takes over any case rather than an assisting agency like they are in most state cases, it's because they have reason to believe the crime occured within their jurisdiction when it happened. Those are the only reasons it becomes a federal case when they takeover any ongoing unsolved case which happened within one of our states.

For example:

When three of the Grogene family were brutally murdered by Joe Duncan those murders remained Idaho state cases.

However, because he took Shasta, and Dylan to a national park, where he repeatedly raped, tortured them for weeks, murdering little Dylan, burning his little body to ashes there he was tried, and convicted in Federal court for those charges due to it being on federal land, and within the FBIs jurisdiction.

Jmho

 

[oviedo]

Yep. This is exactly what I think happened.

I haven't been on much today. I have some catching up to do.

But with that said, I think the big clue I read is that a volunteer parent at the school noticed RC had been absent for 3 days. She eventually decided she should call the cops the article said. Could it be that that RC parents/family got wind that a woman from her school was about to call the police about her absents and they all suddenly had to come up with this story an explanation for something that already happened? Perhaps she wasn't at school for 3 days because she had already been hurt long before the Amber Alert day? So before the cops came to them over truancy they made a story first... A cover up story about abduction. I mean she missed school from Aug 30 and every other school day after Aug 30 up until the day they reported her missing. I think more than 1 of the people in that family knows what happened to RC. Just speculation, JMO. Still, the missing from school for 3 days already before this happened sounds fishy at the least, right? The autopsy should show how many days she was dead.

This case just has my mind so wrapped up in it. This poor baby girl. The sadness and pain she must have felt. It haunts me.

I think I read that the teacher/principal called the home on Friday to ask after her? If that is true- then it took Saturday and Sunday to come up with the 911 story - the mixed messages about who was watching her and then hide the body? That's a lot of logistics to work through IMO. I hope the FBI is looking at all phones/computers/cars etc to get to the bottom of what happened to this child. JMO