NM - Tera Chavez, 26, found dead in her Los Lunas home, 22 Oct 2007 - #1

[Thundar]

If Serna wants the jury to know this about the DNA why does he not explain it to them in closing.........LOL

 

[Thundar]

Prosecutor (the man) admits he does not know how to read a lab report....

Prosecutor says it is fair game.....let the jury decide......no instructions needed to explain the lab report.......the courtroom testimony stands on its own without any special instructions........of course he doesn't like it but she was the expert....this should have been the job of the attorneys while she was on the stand.........

Prosecutor does not want any cautionary instruction.....done......Serna back!

 

[Thundar]

Serna wants the cautionary instruction about the lab report........Serna says the prosecutor can argue anything he wants as long as there is an instruction.........mumble, mumble, walk away from the mic!

 

[Thundar]

I am not understanding why Serna is fighting so hard for this instruction. How does he know what the prosecution is going to argue in closing anyway?

WEll Serna and the prosecutor are not even standing up to argue now....they are each sitting in their own chairs to argue.....now standing again......Serna wants to call the lab report lady back to testify..........I thought they were done!

All rise....Judge stands up and Serna keeps talking! Serna makes a funny and laughs!

 

[NCEast]

Serna and Levi leave their water cups on the table, McKay walked up to beyond the podium and put his in the trash can.

 

[NCEast]

Serna wants the cautionary instruction about the lab report........Serna says the prosecutor can argue anything he wants as long as there is an instruction.........mumble, mumble, walk away from the mic!

I was only half listening but I think SErna just wants to cause problems and make a mess of things. He loves to hear himself talk. If anybody else in that courtroom besides Levi has an ego it's definitely Serna.

 

[geevee]

I'll read the posts from you all later.
Boy, it's good to be in this old chair. We are having horrible storms again and I had to drive in rain so hard I could not see anything in front of me for about 25 miles. My dogs haven't been out since 5:30 this morning.
I hope nothing or no one exploded in the courtroom today. I am so happy I got to see a little of Mr. Cordova's rebuttal testimony. I have so much respect for that man.
I hope everybody on here is well!!

So good to see you back NCE, get all caught up and enjoy being home in your comfy chair.

 

[Jewels53]

We all agree this case is crazy! Serna suggest recalling the DNA witness and reopening the case. WHAT!

Then the judge agree's! WHAT The PT says we don't want to pay for that, it should be the defense.

Serna try's to talk the judge into paying. NO

So they put it on the court reporter to find the testimony. WAWA poor girl!

 

[NCEast]

So good to see you back NCE, get all caught up and enjoy being home in your comfy chair.

Thank you so much Geevee. I missed you all today. So funny that I feel such a strong kinship with all of you who have gone through this trial with me. We must continue to hang out together in the future!

 

[thefragile7393]

That comment by LC 'I missed the kids, and he caught himself, he almost forgot 'and I missed her too' gave me a look at the real person hiding behind the mask. How many times did he say how nice one of his lovers were? Five, six,seven? But he never gave Tera any redeeming qualities except I think he admitted she was a good mother. He had zero love or respect for his spouse.

I agree Tera may have lashed out and said she was going to kill herself. I think she was struggling emotionally and still loved Levi. I do think if she had attempted anything along the lines of harming herself, suicide, that the defense would have been all over that and we heard zip about any prior attempts. Why? IMO because the words were threats only.

I expect the state to present a cohesive argument showing the future plans Tera was making, the rebuilding of her ego by taking a lover, the recharging of her cell phone, and the planning (kids at grandparents, buying several bottles of cough medicine to knock her out, the ripped sorry note) and the brutality of shooting yourself in the mouth and blowing off the back of your head done by an uncaring, manipulative man.

I caught that too. The man i....dealt withwas the same way....spoke of his wife in the same flat tone. He said nothing bad about her but it was clear there was no love. He hated talking about her. He also said she was a good mother only. He spoke highly of his lovers. Startled me to see these similarities.
LC was her first love. She was still a kid when they met. I agree she still loved him and struggled emotionally...it devestates you when someone flaunts their affairs and shows nothing for you...no love, respect, kindness. I fail to beileve that there were zero good things about her. He couldn't come up with anything during his baloney.

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[NCEast]

Thank you Thundar for all of your transcription this afternoon. And everybody else for the moment by moment posts and your thoughts too. Made catching up so much easier.
This trial goes down in my life as the most unusual, most difficult to follow, most unorganized, most pro-defense, most spaced-out judge, and filled with the most unlikeable people I've ever seen. I do not regret for one moment the hours I've spent watching it, nor my probable weight gain
A little reminder about the Hayes/Haze trial in Raleigh, NC that is scheduled to begin next month. Would love for you all to join me on here for it--the various aspects of that case should make it a very good one.
You guys are like family now!!

 

[thefragile7393]

Thank you Thundar for all of your transcription this afternoon. And everybody else for the moment by moment posts and your thoughts too. Made catching up so much easier.
This trial goes down in my life as the most unusual, most difficult to follow, most unorganized, most pro-defense, most spaced-out judge, and filled with the most unlikeable people I've ever seen. I do not regret for one moment the hours I've spent watching it, nor my probable weight gain
A little reminder about the Hayes/Haze trial in Raleigh, NC that is scheduled to begin next month. Would love for you all to join me on here for it--the various aspects of that case should make it a very good one.
You guys are like family now!!

Even more than the jA trial?

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[NCEast]

Even more than the jA trial?

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I didn't watch the JA trial, I was going through a ton of health issues during those months this year and was back and forth to various doctors all over the place. I would try to catch the highlights in the news each day. I had no idea it was going to last that long--had I sat here and followed it each day I would have probably gained 100 pounds!
I was dx last year with diabetes and for about 6 months before, I would step on the scale and there was a 5 pound increase from almost week to week. That was back when I slim and trim and weight has never been an issue for me. I couldn't understand what was happening and when my doctor told me I had diabetes I was shocked beyond words, but that explained the weight gain. It's been difficult to lose and since my business partner died I just am not as active as I used to be. I need to move my exercise bike up to this computer so I can peddle/ride while watching these trials, killing two birds with one stone as the old saying goes.
I don't think anybody realized the JA trial was going to take so long, did you? Have they sentenced her yet? Didn't they have to select another jury altogether for the sentencing phase? I have not kept up with it since she was found guilty but remember the original jury was deadlocked on the sentencing IIRC?

 

[NCEast]

I took a nap yesterday afternoon late and, of course, I couldn't go to sleep last night. So I got on here and started reading from the very first day of this trial. So funny that various and random things that caught our attention very early on proved to be on-going throughout the trial. Unorganized paperwork was noted early, the Judge looking like he didn't know where he was, pro-defense rulings, Serna's whining and theatrical antics--so many issues in the first few days that never changed throughout the trial. We had all of the primary players pegged just right. We are good.

 

[NCEast]

I have discovered that if I keep WS open in IE (which I don't normally use) and the live stream from Wild open in Firefox, I can switch back and forth very easily. Additionally, when I was using Firefox for WS if I didn't post anything for about 15 minutes or so I had to keep signing in. On IE that doesn't happen. I've been signed in on here since last night and surprisingly I'm still signed in this morning. Just thought I'd share this in case anybody wants to try it.

 

[geevee]

I have discovered that if I keep WS open in IE (which I don't normally use) and the live stream from Wild open in Firefox, I can switch back and forth very easily. Additionally, when I was using Firefox for WS if I didn't post anything for about 15 minutes or so I had to keep signing in. On IE that doesn't happen. I've been signed in on here since last night and surprisingly I'm still signed in this morning. Just thought I'd share this in case anybody wants to try it.

I use two browsers as well, IE for the live streaming and Maxthon for WS and other sites. I used FF a long time ago but never got comfortable with it. Why is no one developing new browswers? The choices we have are pitiful.

 

[geevee]

I didn't watch the JA trial, I was going through a ton of health issues during those months this year and was back and forth to various doctors all over the place. I would try to catch the highlights in the news each day. I had no idea it was going to last that long--had I sat here and followed it each day I would have probably gained 100 pounds!
I was dx last year with diabetes and for about 6 months before, I would step on the scale and there was a 5 pound increase from almost week to week. That was back when I slim and trim and weight has never been an issue for me. I couldn't understand what was happening and when my doctor told me I had diabetes I was shocked beyond words, but that explained the weight gain. It's been difficult to lose and since my business partner died I just am not as active as I used to be. I need to move my exercise bike up to this computer so I can peddle/ride while watching these trials, killing two birds with one stone as the old saying goes.
I don't think anybody realized the JA trial was going to take so long, did you? Have they sentenced her yet? Didn't they have to select another jury altogether for the sentencing phase? I have not kept up with it since she was found guilty but remember the original jury was deadlocked on the sentencing IIRC?

A status conference is being held on the 16th (next Tues.) to set the date for the retrial of the penalty phase. The PT has also filed a motion to have the aggravated phase verdict vacated, I don't know if JSS will hear that motion then or if anything will be video taped, I haven't seen anything about cameras being in the courtroom like the last status conference (it wasn't shown live, and all that was shown was JSS resetting the date of the conference).

Although I've followed a couple trials before, never before like the JA case, I'm still working on the pics (as I hope Melendez and his crew are). I do think they can figure out more of the sequence of events if they can clarify more of the images on 3 of the last 4 pics (there is something in the sitting shower pic but I don't have the equipment to be able to see it clearly).

Sorry to hear about your health woes NCE, my long time boss was diabetic, I know how difficult that is to manage. I'll keep good energy flowing your way.

 

[NCEast]

I use two browsers as well, IE for the live streaming and Maxthon for WS and other sites. I used FF a long time ago but never got comfortable with it. Why is no one developing new browswers? The choices we have are pitiful.

I have never heard of Maxthon until you mentioned it the other day. I'll check it out right now. Thanks!
Good morning!!

 

[Jewels53]

I didn't watch the JA trial, I was going through a ton of health issues during those months this year and was back and forth to various doctors all over the place. I would try to catch the highlights in the news each day. I had no idea it was going to last that long--had I sat here and followed it each day I would have probably gained 100 pounds!
I was dx last year with diabetes and for about 6 months before, I would step on the scale and there was a 5 pound increase from almost week to week. That was back when I slim and trim and weight has never been an issue for me. I couldn't understand what was happening and when my doctor told me I had diabetes I was shocked beyond words, but that explained the weight gain. It's been difficult to lose and since my business partner died I just am not as active as I used to be. I need to move my exercise bike up to this computer so I can peddle/ride while watching these trials, killing two birds with one stone as the old saying goes.
I don't think anybody realized the JA trial was going to take so long, did you? Have they sentenced her yet? Didn't they have to select another jury altogether for the sentencing phase? I have not kept up with it since she was found guilty but remember the original jury was deadlocked on the sentencing IIRC?

Thanks NCEast for sharing your personal info with us. I know it has to be a struggle for you.

I am sitting here and gaining weight, blaming it on the effects of quitting smoking ( 9-24-2012), almost 10 months now. Plus the fact that I am not as active now. I do eat a little more but not much. I also suffer from chronic back pain and muscle spasms, from not keeping my body as active as I can. I also have nerve damage from my pelvic area down to my toes on my right foot. So far I have had 2 back surgery's with the 2nd one having helped the most. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, I just want people to understand you can not always see what is truly going on in one life.

On top of all of this I suffer with Chronic Depression, recently discoved since youth.

I will stop boring you now!

Trial time!

 

[NCEast]

I can't remember what time things get started this morning. Seems it's a little bit early. Is it 9am?