NM - Tera Chavez, 26, found dead in her Los Lunas home, 22 Oct 2007 - #2

  • #401
After letting the dust settle on the verdict I think I've concluded that most jurors are too afraid to convict a cop.
 
  • #402
I am feeling better after a couple of day post verdict. I just hope and pray the Cordova's can find some peace. I am not sure even with a guilty verdict you can feel totally at peace. Your loved one is still gone forever, and the scum who took them is still alive.

Did we even know what the sentence was for a guilty verdict?

I will keep watching for info on the civil case and I hope if someone see's it they will post it.

I'm glad you're feeling better, Jewels. :)

You too, CJ. :)
 
  • #403
I know life isn't fair and have had my fair share of ups and downs in my almost 60 yrs of life. I imagine all of us have and will continue to in our days to come. Now I am sounding like an old person. Sorry!

The day of the verdict someone comes on here and try's to make us feel like we should feel sorry for the defendant. That rubs me wrong, I shouldn't have to defend my feelings for anyone. I tried to do that for most of my life and it caused me nothing but heart ache and lots of bad memories. I am so over those now and try to live my life in the moment.

One of these days I will learn to not invest so much emotion into events such as this. This is why I am preferring the trial over the missing children cases. They are just too gut wrenching. Yet I followed one yesterday that turned out fatal.

Thanks for listening. I am reading the post in the 2nd thread on the Hayes/Haze up and coming trial.
 
  • #404
I know life isn't fair and have had my fair share of ups and downs in my almost 60 yrs of life. I imagine all of us have and will continue to in our days to come. Now I am sounding like an old person. Sorry!

The day of the verdict someone comes on here and try's to make us feel like we should feel sorry for the defendant. That rubs me wrong, I shouldn't have to defend my feelings for anyone. I tried to do that for most of my life and it caused me nothing but heart ache and lots of bad memories. I am so over those now and try to live my life in the moment.

One of these days I will learn to not invest so much emotion into events such as this. This is why I am preferring the trial over the missing children cases. They are just too gut wrenching. Yet I followed one yesterday that turned out fatal.

Thanks for listening. I am reading the post in the 2nd thread on the Hayes/Haze up and coming trial.

We just can't internalize these trials Jewels,, but you already know that. It's isn't easy to live with the victim and the family throughout a long one and then just let it go. But we need to. Especially in this case with a not guilty verdict there is simply nothing else that can be done aside from the civil suit. We'll follow that and hopefully the ending will be better.
Get yourself back over to the Hayes/Haze thread when you are up to it--you have friends there already. We can laugh and cry together, as we have done in this trial. And I totally agree with you about the missing children cases--they are very rough on the emotions so I stay away. As many of us said already, it took me a while after the CA trial to even want to get involved from a distance any more. That ruined what we have always perceived to be a fair criminal justice system.
I have not felt well at all today. Too many strange things going on with my body and I'm sounding like an old person too,,,but I am. I'm going to drink a cup of decaf coffee outside in the 96 degree sun, watch my dogs play for a few minutes, and then I'm going to bed with several Harrison Ford movies. Nothing is finer than Harrison Ford. Except maybe Atticus Finch aka that gorgeous Gregory Peck :)
 
  • #405
“We’re doing OK, yeah. Right now. We had a difficult day yesterday,” said Joseph Cordova. “Time goes on and life goes on …we’re going to move forward.”

For the Cordovas, the trial is still fresh in their minds after an excruciating few weeks of testimony.

“I'll state the obvious. We were very disappointed in the verdict,” said Joseph Cordova. “We knew from the onset of the pretrial hearings that it was going to be a very upward battle for the prosecution.”


http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...ial/-/9153728/21038822/-/ofgg35z/-/index.html

There is supposed to be another segment at 10 pm tonight 7/18
 
  • #406
We just can't internalize these trials Jewels,, but you already know that. It's isn't easy to live with the victim and the family throughout a long one and then just let it go. But we need to. Especially in this case with a not guilty verdict there is simply nothing else that can be done aside from the civil suit. We'll follow that and hopefully the ending will be better.
Get yourself back over to the Hayes/Haze thread when you are up to it--you have friends there already. We can laugh and cry together, as we have done in this trial. And I totally agree with you about the missing children cases--they are very rough on the emotions so I stay away. As many of us said already, it took me a while after the CA trial to even want to get involved from a distance any more. That ruined what we have always perceived to be a fair criminal justice system.
I have not felt well at all today. Too many strange things going on with my body and I'm sounding like an old person too,,,but I am. I'm going to drink a cup of decaf coffee outside in the 96 degree sun, watch my dogs play for a few minutes, and then I'm going to bed with several Harrison Ford movies. Nothing is finer than Harrison Ford. Except maybe Atticus Finch aka that gorgeous Gregory Peck :)

Thanks again NCE I sure hope you get to feeling better. I can sure understand that. The yr we moved back to ks from Virginia I got inflammation of the stomach that lasted 10 mo.. I could not eat anything but lightly buttered pasta during that time, it was an awful feeling. Plus all the other things I suffer.

After reading though both the AS thread and the Hayes thread I will probably join you. I think it will be less crowded and that suits me better.

Have a good evening!
 
  • #407
Should I stop waiting for answers? :waiting:
 
  • #408

What a classy man Mr. Cordova is. I believe him too. I agree with his words 100 percent. This is what scares me about trials...you never know what isn't being allowed in on either side. It isn't truly fair when stuff is left out. one of many reasons why I don't believe in our justice system. Sorry but... I don't. I have seen too much and while sometimes justice is served....I feel it is broken completely.

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  • #409
  • #410
****Warning**** This may cause some tears. At least it did for me, this is a full transcript and video of the Cordova's speaking about the Trial. Very admiral people and very important information they share.


http://www.abqjournal.com/main/222967/news/tera-chavezs-parents-speak-out.html

Thank you Jewels for that post. That interview with the Cordova's was so amazingly insightful. We knew the PT was incredibly inhibited and the Cordova's want the same thing that we all said that the jury needed to have seen all the evidence for a clear motive. Also I love being confirmed on what was so obvious the sidebars and the relationship between the judge and Serna. I am going to file a freedom of information act for this case because I want to read what went on in those sidebars. Also the Cordova's confirmed the level of manipulation of Serna to twist and disgrace Tera's actions. What a nasty man and I don't know exactly why or how but this video validates my feelings of why when Mrs. Serna paid us a visit it made me feel physically sick. Justice was not served as we all know and sensed on varying levels that is was not going to be. Also just like us the Cordova's were shocked that LC would say Tera was jealous of her daughter. He said anything to stay out of prison and it worked.
 
  • #411
  • #412
Thank you Jewels for that post. That interview with the Cordova's was so amazingly insightful. We knew the PT was incredibly inhibited and the Cordova's want the same thing that we all said that the jury needed to have seen all the evidence for a clear motive. Also I love being confirmed on what was so obvious the sidebars and the relationship between the judge and Serna. I am going to file a freedom of information act for this case because I want to read what went on in those sidebars. Also the Cordova's confirmed the level of manipulation of Serna to twist and disgrace Tera's actions. What a nasty man and I don't know exactly why or how but this video validates my feelings of why when Mrs. Serna paid us a visit it made me feel physically sick. Justice was not served as we all know and sensed on varying levels that is was not going to be. Also just like us the Cordova's were shocked that LC would say Tera was jealous of her daughter. He said anything to stay out of prison and it worked.

Thanks CJ I think you are spot on with what you said and I totally agree. I would have been okay with the not guilty verdict if some individual had not come on and tried to invalidate my feelings. I didn't feel physically sick more anger about Serna.

The Cordovas' are very strong people and a strong family. I can't imagine what they have been through.

I got to thinking I am not so sure our visitor is who they say they are. If they were why would they not go through the simple process to get validated? I have never been through it myself but I don't think it is too hard. Answer some questions and be available for a phone call from a mod.

Oh and there is a video of the defense attorney talking about the case also on the koat site. I just didn't think anyone would be interested in seeing it.
 
  • #413
Thank you Jewels for that post. That interview with the Cordova's was so amazingly insightful. We knew the PT was incredibly inhibited and the Cordova's want the same thing that we all said that the jury needed to have seen all the evidence for a clear motive. Also I love being confirmed on what was so obvious the sidebars and the relationship between the judge and Serna. I am going to file a freedom of information act for this case because I want to read what went on in those sidebars. Also the Cordova's confirmed the level of manipulation of Serna to twist and disgrace Tera's actions. What a nasty man and I don't know exactly why or how but this video validates my feelings of why when Mrs. Serna paid us a visit it made me feel physically sick. Justice was not served as we all know and sensed on varying levels that is was not going to be. Also just like us the Cordova's were shocked that LC would say Tera was jealous of her daughter. He said anything to stay out of prison and it worked.

I agree. When it was said that the Cordovad should not have sympathy is when is tuned out. It made many many things I cannot post come to mind. After reading this it strengthned my gut feelings and my thoughts comepletely echo yours. I completely see evidence to convict LC but I understand why the jury did not. My hope is for the civil trial now, where serna won't be representimg LC and hopefully with a diff judge.

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  • #414
The interview was, indeed, heart wrenching. My heart has been with Tera's parents from day one.
I came away from it with a question though and maybe somebody knows and I'm just not thinking clearly. Mr. Cordova said something about an officer coming up at the 12th hour and the prosecution doing the right thing and there was nothing anybody could do about it....or something to that effect. What was that about?
 
  • #415
Thank you Jewels for that post. That interview with the Cordova's was so amazingly insightful. We knew the PT was incredibly inhibited and the Cordova's want the same thing that we all said that the jury needed to have seen all the evidence for a clear motive. Also I love being confirmed on what was so obvious the sidebars and the relationship between the judge and Serna. I am going to file a freedom of information act for this case because I want to read what went on in those sidebars. Also the Cordova's confirmed the level of manipulation of Serna to twist and disgrace Tera's actions. What a nasty man and I don't know exactly why or how but this video validates my feelings of why when Mrs. Serna paid us a visit it made me feel physically sick. Justice was not served as we all know and sensed on varying levels that is was not going to be. Also just like us the Cordova's were shocked that LC would say Tera was jealous of her daughter. He said anything to stay out of prison and it worked.

Please do CL file a freedom of information form so you can get your hands on those sidebars. I would love to know what was said, done, how they were all approached, the issues, etc. Obviously, Mr. Cordova was in the know and regardless of anything else, we know that 99 percent of the time the judge sided with the defense, regardless.
 
  • #416
Found this article on WAT:

"ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - A philandering former Albuquerque police officer and his family were jubilant and thankful when he was acquitted of killing his wife. But the legal troubles of Levi Chavez are not over.

He still faces a wrongful death lawsuit from the family of his late wife Tera Chavez - a case that could include testimony that was prohibited during his murder trial and involves an alleged motive and his wife's fear of him."

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/jul/17/nm-ex-officer-cleared-of-murder-faces-civil-case/
 
  • #417
Found this article on WAT:

"ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - A philandering former Albuquerque police officer and his family were jubilant and thankful when he was acquitted of killing his wife. But the legal troubles of Levi Chavez are not over.

He still faces a wrongful death lawsuit from the family of his late wife Tera Chavez - a case that could include testimony that was prohibited during his murder trial and involves an alleged motive and his wife's fear of him."

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/jul/17/nm-ex-officer-cleared-of-murder-faces-civil-case/

Funny how a civil trial will contain vital evidence excluded from the more important criminal trial. Yeah our system is messed up all right. This was the only way the brown/goldman fams could get OJ responsible for his actions....this may be the only way to get LC responsible for his. Hilarious to think that he is arrogant enough to believe that 1) if the criminal court finds him not guilty then he really is not guilty and 2) he thinks he can breeze by a civil suit. He won't have his buddy Serna or a judge that was buddy buddy with Serna. Whole new playground with diff rules. Should be very interesting.

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  • #418
The Eye On Albuquerque blog has a 5 part series on this case, and some other interesting bits about the chief of police who hired LC. It isn't what I would call mainstream media...and I suppose since it isn't as such it can't be called "fact" officially. It states it is a public opinion blog and not social media. It starts on July 22.
http://eyeonalbuquerque.blogspot.com/
 
  • #419
The Eye On Albuquerque blog has a 5 part series on this case, and some other interesting bits about the chief of police who hired LC. It isn't what I would call mainstream media...and I suppose since it isn't as such it can't be called "fact" officially. It states it is a public opinion blog and not social media. It starts on July 22.
http://eyeonalbuquerque.blogspot.com/


Thanks Fragile a very good read, the APD really seems to have many problems. I don't know if these have just been brought out since the LC event or if they were going to bring them out all along.

Another good read is on a FB page on Justice for Tera Chavez, I won't post it here. I know it is against tos.
 
  • #420
Thanks Fragile a very good read, the APD really seems to have many problems. I don't know if these have just been brought out since the LC event or if they were going to bring them out all along.

Another good read is on a FB page on Justice for Tera Chavez, I won't post it here. I know it is against tos.

Links can be posted, but nothing directly from the page or screen shots, IIRC, since it isn't a suspect's page or family member's page of anyone involved. Paraphrasing only,nothing there can be stated as fact officially though. At least thats how I read it.

It is a pretty interesting read....makes the hairs strand up on the back of my neck.

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