GUILTY NM - Zakaria Fry, 28, & Eugene 'Carrell' Ray, 70, Albuquerque, 18 Jan 2018 *Arrest*

[LisaWL7TR]

If the thread reads weird at the start there were two separate threads. LE has now said they are connected. The two threads are now one.
I am thinking with the news of the car and the person being looked for that he has now left the area. Moo

 

[flute4peace]

If not for the bottom lip being more full, I feel that WM guy very much resembles the picture of her. How recent is her pic? Perhaps that could have been included in the plastic surgery?

Probably way off but I can't rule out the "hiding in plain sight" theory, especially if there were some potentially questionable behaviors in the past. Old man, young roommate.....not unheard of.

Nothing other than my thoughts & speculation.

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[PetDetective]

I just went looking for some sort of update on this case and noticed info. I had previously missed. Not sure if it was mentioned here yet.

“The children of a 70-year-old transgender woman, Carrell Ray, walked into their Albuquerque, NM home to <u>find excessive amounts of blood in the living areas and garage</u>. Subsequently, Ms. Ray and her roommate Zakaria Fry went missing according to Ms. Fry’s sister, Britney Willis. <u>Ms. WIllis tells us “On January 31st, 2018 detectives from the Albuquerque New Mexico Police Department have classified the incident as a homicide.”</u>This would be the third and fourth murders of transgender women in the first month of January 2018.”

http://www.transnetworking.com/possible-double-transgender-murder-end-january-2018/


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[AzPistonsGirl]

bumping. It's a busy day at WS but we won't forget about you Carrell... After finding some other pictures of ZF, I'm wagering a guess that is her in the video after all. I hope LE is on it.

 

[Beth11311]

bumping. It's a busy day at WS but we won't forget about you Carrell... After finding some other pictures of ZF, I'm wagering a guess that is her in the video after all. I hope LE is on it.

Interesting - I just don’t see it! The profile of the man in the video seems to have fuller lips, a different chin, and seems to be very tall. Sad that there hasn’t been more coverage on this case. Hoping there is some sort of outcome for the families. Need to go look at photos of Z again...


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[GraceG]

Interesting - I just don’t see it! The profile of the man in the video seems to have fuller lips, a different chin, and seems to be very tall. Sad that there hasn’t been more coverage on this case. Hoping there is some sort of outcome for the families. Need to go look at photos of Z again...


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Zakaria, is almost six feet tall. Fuller lips are easy to do with various cosmetic products (I regularly use a lip plumper) Nose and jaw are identical. Stepping back from it and relooking after a couple of weeks I'd say that is the same person. On her twitter page she states she is (among other things I'll not mention here) a "drug addict". This could have been a drug deal gone bad and her roommate got caught up in it by accident. Zakaria might well not have been the cause of harm, but there would be involvement that would have legal consequences.

 

[Beth11311]

Zakaria, is almost six feet tall. Fuller lips are easy to do with various cosmetic products (I regularly use a lip plumper) Nose and jaw are identical. Stepping back from it and relooking after a couple of weeks I'd say that is the same person. On her twitter page she states she is (among other things I'll not mention here) a "drug addict". This could have been a drug deal gone bad and her roommate got caught up in it by accident. Zakaria might well not have been the cause of harm, but there would be involvement that would have legal consequences.

Yes at 5’11” she certainly isn’t short. I doubt she would have the funds for fillers unless poorly done (I too use them and they aren’t cheap)! Her FB has a lot of information, to be sure. Sounds like a lot of people were worried about her and told her months ago to “come home” before some worse happened to her (after the incident where her drugs/cash were stolen). It’s confusing that the MSM article from the Trans community site lists her as a murder victim. I wish LE would speak on this more...


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[Gardener1850]

Two unidentified bodies found in Stanley, NM:

http://krqe.com/2018/02/21/neighbors-shaken-after-two-bodies-found-in-small-new-mexico-town/

 

[Steelslady]

Two unidentified bodies found in Stanley, NM:

http://krqe.com/2018/02/21/neighbors-shaken-after-two-bodies-found-in-small-new-mexico-town/

Ugh, that poor man- I can't imagine the horror of finding a dead body in a trash barrel.

 

[Beth11311]

Two unidentified bodies found in Stanley, NM:

http://krqe.com/2018/02/21/neighbors-shaken-after-two-bodies-found-in-small-new-mexico-town/

About 45 mins away from where they went missing. Thank you for this. Interesting that one of the bodies was definitely male but the other, the man who found it said something like “probably female”. Will check back for updates.


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[PetDetective]

Here’s another article with a bit more detail.
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...cle_1152bfb4-1772-11e8-b837-a702529b6806.html

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[houndpounder]

The bodies were of 2 men. Perhaps the farmer thought it was a female because of makeup and hair? Now being investigated by APD case and is related to an investigation in [FONT=&quot]Albuquerque.[/FONT]

http://krqe.com/2018/02/22/bodies-found-in-santa-fe-county-tied-to-apd-investigation/

 

[Beth11311]

The bodies were of 2 men. Perhaps the farmer thought it was a female because of makeup and hair? Now being investigated by APD case and is related to an investigation in [FONT=&quot]Albuquerque.[/FONT]

http://krqe.com/2018/02/22/bodies-found-in-santa-fe-county-tied-to-apd-investigation/

Question - do we know if ZF was pre-op or post? I would assume pre...and they were in Albuquerque...is there any way this could be related as they were the bodies of two men who were found (which would fit this situation).


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[cvaldez1975]

I think its them. I think maybe the nails were painted and the rancher didn't look closely after realizing what he saw. so he concluded it was a woman after seeing the hands and shaved legs.

 

[cvaldez1975]

i wonder what this was about.

 

[cvaldez1975]

here is Eugene Carrell Ray's fb

https://www.facebook.com/carrell.ray.3?fref=ufi

 

[PetDetective]

I think its them. I think maybe the nails were painted and the rancher didn't look closely after realizing what he saw. so he concluded it was a woman after seeing the hands and shaved legs.

I agree. He probably saw long hair, painted nails and no body hair so he assumed. He said she was naked, but her hand was dangling between her legs....so I think it’s safe to assume he assumed what most would have. He said her fingers were smooth, like a young person’s....I wonder how long they have been dead. I wouldn’t think fingers would still be smooth a month after death.


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[houndpounder]

Someone strong had to put a 6 foot ZF in a plastic bag and garbage can unless there was dismemberment of the legs. I don't see a 6 foot tall person fitting into a silver regular size trash can even in a plastic bag. Unless it was a taller one.

 

[Beth11311]

Someone strong had to put a 6 foot ZF in a plastic bag and garbage can unless there was dismemberment of the legs. I don't see a 6 foot tall person fitting into a silver regular size trash can even in a plastic bag. Unless it was a taller one.

Not only that but I believe E was reportedly around 200 lbs...also maybe hard to fit in a trash can...?


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[cvaldez1975]

it was a yellow plastic rollie, those are usually bigger.

Someone strong had to put a 6 foot ZF in a plastic bag and garbage can unless there was dismemberment of the legs. I don't see a 6 foot tall person fitting into a silver regular size trash can even in a plastic bag. Unless it was a taller one.