No intruder?

[my_tee_mouse]

It used to be different around here.....that's why I liked it.....I don't fit at FFJ....too RDI for me....I wouldn't fit at weBBsleuths,way too PRO Ramsey for me.....I hate topix cause of the language and insults.....so I guess maybe I should move on and follow another case cause this was the place to be but not anymore.Sorry for the rant.but I am only ranting when I am hurt,I guess.

Have a great weekend guys. :rose:

No! You should not move on and follow another case! I enjoy your posts and your point of view. You have good questions, and you make folks think and rethink their positions.

NONE of us has all the answers. If we did, we would not be here. If we did, we could throw a big celebration followed by a candlelight vigil and go home.

Some folks enjoy the "Jane you ignorant !" bantering. I do not personally like to "play" that way on a website where I don't know folks personally, but when the two people doing it enjoy it, it can be fun to watch. So long as they don't use this manner of communicating on people who prefer a more polite, genial method, I don't have a problem with it. When that manner of communicating is used on someone who prefers more politeness, it comes off as rude, crude and socially unacceptable.

We all do the same thing with friends, family members and coworkers. I can "pick on" some folks, and they can "pick" back. Others would be hurt and not understand. I think we just need to try to use that rule of thumb here.

And if someone is being rude just for the sake of being rude, because their best defense is a bad offense: Blast 'em!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

If someone would give me the link to a good IDI forum, I'd be gone like a shot!!

Stay tuned...

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

You know there was a poster long time ago who came and said that PR was a psycho bi#$%.I was ASHAMED to be part of RDI.I am also disappointed to be in the camp who has nothing to say except bwahahaha and lol when someone disagrees.I am not perfect,no way, but I am NOT a hypocrite nor was I ever rude by INTENT.

I would certainly beware any strong anti-Ramsey personal attacks or emotions forumulated AFTER the murder by people who DONT EVEN KNOW THEM personally. I dont know them, so I dont have an opinion one way or the other about them PERSONALLY.

I would be intent on someone who knew them personally and had a strong personal attack BEFORE the murder.

After the murder is too easily attributed to a LYNCH MOB mentality that feeds on itself. Like an itch it gets worse and worse. A vicious circle based on the notion that they killed JBR. From then on everything proceeds upon that foundation. A foundation that was never truly establshed.

 

[BBB167893]

I would certainly beware any strong anti-Ramsey personal attacks or emotions forumulated AFTER the murder by people who DONT EVEN KNOW THEM personally. I dont know them, so I dont have an opinion one way or the other about them PERSONALLY.

We're in agreement, HOTYH. Sometimes it's hard not to feel strongly about this. But some people let it get to them and they take it too far.

I would be intent on someone who knew them personally and had a strong personal attack BEFORE the murder.

How do you mean, HOTYH?

After the murder is too easily attributed to a LYNCH MOB mentality that feeds on itself. Like an itch it gets worse and worse. A vicious circle based on the notion that they killed JBR. From then on everything proceeds upon that foundation. A foundation that was never truly establshed.

All of this is YOUR opinion, or course. Which you're entitled to.

 

[joeskidbeck]

Beck your ability to invent stuff never ceases to amaze me.

Murri, if I said what you truly deserve to hear, I would be banned for life, but I don't play that way. I would like for you to go through each and every one of my posts to you or any other on this board and find one time where I was so rude to another poster.

Do you know what that made you look like? Do you believe that it belittled me? I'm sorry for you if you believe that made you look good because it only causes other posters to disregard your posts and your theories. I treat everyone here with dignity and respect no matter what I think of their theories. It would be better for you to do the same. Then, maybe people would want to believe the evidence that you post.

Maybe respect is not important to you, too bad, I will still treat you with it and I expect the same. If you cannot do that, please put me on ignore and do not reply to any more of my posts.

 

[joeskidbeck]

But 100% RDI or 100%IDI forums would be so BORING.Everyone agreeing,not challenging at all.Why is it that whenever someone has a different opinion he or she is "here only to start trouble"....

Maddy, you know that I think very much of you and your opinions. But the post the folks are referring to was aimed at me and it was about nothing but starting trouble. Murri was disrespectful and that remark was uncalled for. It does not bother me that she disagrees with my theories whatsoever as I certainly disagree with hers, BUT I would never sink so low as to make a remark like that. I had to defend my friends here because they weren't trying to be snarky. They were trying to defend me.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

To be honest (cause I really have NO reason not to around here),there are/never been some,most of them were about defending the R's and NOT about let's find out who the intruder is.........

I think it can be distilled down to a middle-aged asian male socialist pedophile who doesn't need the money. Jeez isn't that specific? Narrows it down to what, one or two people??

middle-aged: attache, fat cat, even SD agrees middle aged. Done.
asian: The handwriting, spelling, grammar, and language have pecularities to it that could be attributed to ESL. Nobody knows why the paintbrush was selected. The user managed to break both ends off and wrap the middle, all while avoiding the word KOREA. Beheading is bizarre, and a 35 year FBI vet said the whole crime is bizarre. That could equate to foreign. Asian is a gamble I admit. But another poster DID start a thread called "which small foreign faction..." and ASIA came up.
male: There is unknown male DNA on two items of clothing JBR was wearing, and it is found in the context of a sexual assault. 90% sexual crimes against children are by males. "Countermeasures and tactics" written by a woman? Nah thats guy stuff.
socialist: Clint Van Zandt says Victory! is 'revolutionary' JR says "outspoken against capitalism" the RN author uses the derrogatory term 'fat cat' which is most commonly used in connection with capitalist bosses of which JR is one.
pedophile: well, a 6 year old girl WAS sexually assaulted. Shall we split hairs on whether or not she was 'only molested'? The coroner thinks she was digitally penetrated, and that is a common mode of sexual assault on a child.
doesn't need the money: even RDI will attest to that. JR could've paid more and expert ransom kidnappers motivated by money would know it.

 

[Agatha_C]

HOTYH, I swear to you this is a real question, so please don't read me wrong. Help me understand just one thing....

Other then an outdoor market, how does "Bizzar" connect to "Foreign?"

 

[BBB167893]

Murri, if I said what you truly deserve to hear, I would be banned for life, but I don't play that way.

Ouch! But I get you.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

HOTYH, I swear to you this is a real question, so please don't read me wrong. Help me understand just one thing....

Other then an outdoor market, how does "Bizzar" connect to "Foreign?"

Bazaar is a foreign market. Bizarre means strange, unusual, or even foreign.


Main Entry: anomalous Part of Speech: adjective Definition: deviating from normal, usual Synonyms: aberrant, abnormal, atypical, bizarre, divergent, eccentric, exceptional, foreign, heteroclite, incongruous, inconsistent, irregular, odd, peculiar, preternatural, prodigious, rare, strange, unnatural, unorthodox, unrepresentative, untypical, unusual Antonyms: conforming, normal, regular, standard, usual

 

[Agatha_C]

Isn't that stretching it, I mean wouldn't they have just used the word "foreign"????

 

[BBB167893]

middle-aged: attache, fat cat, even SD agrees middle aged. Done.

Shall we shake on it?

Beheading is bizarre, and a 35 year FBI vet said the whole crime is bizarre.

I'd say that works both ways, friend. (That's not ALL he said, either!)

"Countermeasures and tactics" written by a woman? Nah thats guy stuff.

Interesting theory.

socialist: Clint Van Zandt says Victory! is 'revolutionary' JR says "outspoken against capitalism" the RN author uses the derrogatory term 'fat cat' which is most commonly used in connection with capitalist bosses of which JR is one.

Give the WHOLE Van Zandt quote, HOTYH.

pedophile: well, a 6 year old girl WAS sexually assaulted. Shall we split hairs on whether or not she was 'only molested'?

Apparently, we shall.

The coroner thinks she was digitally penetrated, and that is a common mode of sexual assault on a child.

Common to all child molesters, not just pedos.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Isn't that stretching it, I mean wouldn't they have just used the word "foreign"????

The 35 year FBI vet said bizarre because he didn't readily understand it. I'm saying that this bizarreness is in and of itself is a sign of foreign. A sign that the ransom note author was not fooling about the foreign part.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Give the WHOLE Van Zandt quote, HOTYH.

Did he or did he not say 'revolutionary connotations' and 'harks back to foreign (there goes that 'foreign' word again) powers'.

I'll give you some time to answer that. Plus I think you should go back and ponder this a little more:

I think it can be distilled down to a middle-aged asian male socialist pedophile who doesn't need the money. Jeez isn't that specific? Narrows it down to what, one or two people??

middle-aged: attache, fat cat, even SD agrees middle aged. Done.
asian: The handwriting, spelling, grammar, and language have pecularities to it that could be attributed to ESL. Nobody knows why the paintbrush was selected. The user managed to break both ends off and wrap the middle, all while avoiding the word KOREA. Beheading is bizarre, and a 35 year FBI vet said the whole crime is bizarre. That could equate to foreign. Asian is a gamble I admit. But another poster DID start a thread called "which small foreign faction..." and ASIA came up.
male: There is unknown male DNA on two items of clothing JBR was wearing, and it is found in the context of a sexual assault. 90% sexual crimes against children are by males. "Countermeasures and tactics" written by a woman? Nah thats guy stuff.
socialist: Clint Van Zandt says Victory! is 'revolutionary' JR says "outspoken against capitalism" the RN author uses the derrogatory term 'fat cat' which is most commonly used in connection with capitalist bosses of which JR is one.
pedophile: well, a 6 year old girl WAS sexually assaulted. Shall we split hairs on whether or not she was 'only molested'? The coroner thinks she was digitally penetrated, and that is a common mode of sexual assault on a child.
doesn't need the money: even RDI will attest to that. JR could've paid more and expert ransom kidnappers motivated by money would know it.

 

[Agatha_C]

Okay :waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Okay :waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

Really? You dont know of one middle aged asian male socialist who doesn't need money?

 

[Agatha_C]

Not one that was in Boulder the night that child died. I respect that you have given this amount of thought. I give you that. But, what I find bizarre is the theory, no disrespect JMO.

To answer the question, no I don't do you have a link to your resource?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Not one that was in Boulder the night that child died. I respect that you have given this amount of thought. I give you that. But, what I find bizarre is the theory, no disrespect JMO.

To answer the question, no I don't do you have a link to your resource?

my big bold


Does this mean that you know of one, but know they weren't in Boulder? Who do you know? And how do you know they were not in Boulder? Oh, and please no names. Use a pseudonym.

 

[joeskidbeck]

Really? You dont know of one middle aged asian male socialist who doesn't need money?

Even if I knew (for sure) which middle aged Asian man you are speaking of, why would he kill JonBenet? If he had a problem with John's business, believe me, it wasn't Access Graphics, it would have been the mac daddy, the one with the real power, Lockheed Martin, so why not kill their president's kid? I guess that's what you are referring to, right? Or is there another reason you feel this man killed her?

 

[Agatha_C]

You know, I'm really struggling here. I answered NO! and again you answer with questions and people wonder why, no one plays nice with you. Im trying to give the chance to convince me of your theory. Im honestly engaging with you, trying too understand. Yet, you still choose too make it hard.

Can you give me your source please?