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I remember reading somewhere that the fur hat she had, was thought to be possibly from Uzbekistan/Kazakhstan or any closeby area. [Police report] Also the golden crowns on her teeth are unusual and I think them are thought to be pointed towards Turkish/Eastern Mediterranean Origin. It was also pointed out, that the golden crowns were made extremely well.

I can understand very well, why she is so enchanting and mysterious.

I also spoke previously of the honey pot lures, and came across mention that they weren't necessarily always anyone standing out back in the day, but more common women and someone whom could walk among people rather unnoticed. Also the exploitation was possible, if the woman was young, naive or so. So it could be easy to lure someone to just simply deliver something to someone, or just pick something up from somewhere.

Also, we cannot forget the infamous case of Mata Hari, where someone managed to fool so many. More you learn about her, more she captivates, at least me.

Bit off the rails again, but felt like adding tid bits a slightly more from my sleuthing.
And her maternal haplogroup (H2) points to Southeastern European/Southwestern Asian ancestry but that might just indicate an ancestor was from that area, not that her mother was from that part of the globe. 😑 I should know as my dad’s Y-haplogroup is common among people from the Levant and Africa but he’s German Jewish with ancestors tracing back directly to Germany, Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine (although it might also indicate he’s a descendant of a stray “Old Europe” family that somehow escaped the attention of the Yamnaya people as that haplogroup is also linked to “Old Europe”). Don’t know about my mom’s mitochondrial haplogroup though (she does have a bit of Denisovan which might be surprising as she is of German and Swiss ancestry). Anyway “Elisabeth” seems to enjoy pulling me in different directions.
 
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According to wiki
She was likely born around 1930 in or near Nuremberg, Germany
Between childhood and her teenage years, she appears to have moved further west. By age 14, her chemical markers suggest she lived in the border regions of France, Germany, Belgium, or Luxembourg.
Handwriting analysis conducted by experts reinforced these findings, suggesting she was educated in a French-speaking country, likely France or Belgium.
When checking into hotels, she frequently claimed to be Belgian, using fake names and addresses from cities like Brussels, Leuven, and Ostend.
Examination of her teeth showed complex dental work that likely took place in Central or Southern Europe, though some indicators also point toward East Asia or South America.
Analysis revealed she belongs to haplogroup H24.
Genetic and chemical markers suggest she was likely born in or near Nuremberg, Germany, or potentially as far east as Krakow (Poland), Brno (Czech Republic), or Győr (Hungary).
 
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I keep on thinking the reconstruction, including teeth, Anny Heyligers resembles her the most from all European missing woman i saw.
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- missing from the Netherlands
- since 1966
- 1m60
- brown hair
- gap between front teeth
- facial shape
What doesn’t match: they think she was possibly murdered. BUT: since the identity of out Doe has been unknown for so long, the answer will lie somewhere less obvious.

 

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- missing from the Netherlands
- since 1966
- 1m60
- brown hair
- gap between front teeth
- facial shape
What doesn’t match: they think she was possibly murdered. BUT: since the identity of out Doe has been unknown for so long, the answer will lie somewhere less obvious.

RSBM. In addition, Anny had blue-grey eyes, the Isdal Woman had brown eyes
 
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RSBM. In addition, Anny had blue-grey eyes, the Isdal Woman had brown eyes

RSBM. In addition, Anny had blue-grey eyes, the Isdal Woman had brown eyes
True! But eye color after death has been wrong often in the past, certainly in that period of time. I learned not to write off someone on eye color alone.
Eyes change after death, and drying out (the fire) makes them appear brown or even black. Moo. Not saying it’s her, chance is very small
 
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She was likely born around 1930 in or near Nuremberg, Germany
Between childhood and her teenage years, she appears to have moved further west. By age 14, her chemical markers suggest she lived in the border regions of France, Germany, Belgium, or Luxembourg.
If she had been born around 1930 in Nuremberg, she would have been around 15 when WW2 ended. About 90% of the city had been destroyed at the end of the war, it could mean that she might have lost many of her relatives, as well as identity papers. Did someone take her as a "war bride" to Belgium/France? That could explain why nobody claimed her after her death.

As for her clothes, and that the labels had been removed. I wonder if it was she who had done that, or if she had bought secondhand clothes, and a previous owner and/or shop owner had removed the labels before selling, perhaps the items had been stolen goods.
 
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