Norway Norway - Isdalen, WhtFem 503UFNOR, multiple aliases, multilingual, Nov'70

[fred&edna]

That's a fascinating scenario! The only thing that seems off, as far as I can tell from reading up on the names mentioned, is that C.C.B. wasn't started until 1986.

I've done only the very slightest bit of research, and I'm wondering if parts of the scenario could hold some truth?


"The Rise and Fall of Apartheid Death Squads, 1969–93" - Keith Gottschalk


http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230108141_9

 

[MelmothTheLost]

According to this article (via Google translate), the Norwegian police have managed to get a full DNA profile of Isdal Woman:

https://www.nrk.no/hordaland/isdalskvinnens-dna-profil-gir-nytt-hap-1.13206402

 

[MelmothTheLost]

There's more about the DNA analysis in this article, and they are also undertaking isotope analysis of her teeth:

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/dna-gjennombrudd-i-isdalssaken-1.13205757

 

[MelmothTheLost]

This article reports that old case files had been released under an FOI-type request:

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/her-er-den-hemmelige-isdals-mappen-1.13191844

The files indicate that there was no apparent attempt to interfere with the police investigation, and that at a press conference any link to espionage was publicly ruled out. However other files show that the woman's movements were found to correlate closely with tests being carried out with a new top secret Norwegian weapons system codenamed Penguin, which allowed weapons to be locked onto an enemy target.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

More about the isotope analysis of the teeth and what they hope to get out of it:

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/kripos-vil-kjemisk-analysere-isdalskvinnens-tenner-1.13205741

Ie, some idea of where she grew up.

Apparently it's the first time isotope analysis has been carried out in a Norwegian criminal case.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Wow. This is a bit different. This article looks at the idea, supported by at least one investigator, that she was killed accidently by the explosion of a can of hair spray which had gone into the fire.

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/_-kan-ha-blitt-drept-av-harspray-1.13200507

If you run this through google yourself, the Norwegian word "box" can refer to a variety of containers including a metal canister.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Just got an email, they are working on an english article, it will be out in 2-3 days

Any news on the translation please?

 

[fred&edna]

Wow. This is a bit different. This article looks at the idea, supported by at least one investigator, that she was killed accidently by the explosion of a can of hair spray which had gone into the fire.

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/_-kan-ha-blitt-drept-av-harspray-1.13200507

If you run this through google yourself, the Norwegian word "box" can refer to a variety of containers including a metal canister.

Sleeping pills, wine, bonfire and a can of hairspray? Well, maybe, I guess.

 

[Beamie]

Has anyone found the englsih artcle? They said a couple of days, but that was last week

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Has anyone found the englsih artcle? They said a couple of days, but that was last week

Nope, I've not seen anything. Maybe you could chase up your contact?

I've had a look at the Norwegian TV webpage but can't make out if there's any new information since a week or so ago.

 

[Beamie]

Yeah, I'll ask them again

 

[Beamie]

They're still working on the article, he says it should be done at the end of the week

 

[MelmothTheLost]

They're still working on the article, he says it should be done at the end of the week

Any news? It's getting difficult to work out from the Norwegian is there's any new information.

 

[Beamie]

It's not out yet. I found a blogpost about this, saying NRK has gotten tons of request to translate the articles, and they hope it should be done today, but this is taking forever

 

[Beamie]

I just got an email, they've translated the articles to german and english now:

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/gaten-i-isdalen-1.13182053

 

[MelmothTheLost]

It's 46 years today since Isdalskvinnen'sthe Isdal Woman's body was found.

With the renewed interest in her case, and the recent significant forensic developments, we can only hope that by this time next year she will have her name back - even if her presumed murder may never be solved.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I just got an email, they've translated the articles to german and english now:

https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/gaten-i-isdalen-1.13182053

I've only just started reading the English translations and they seem to have done an excellent job. I really hope the accessibility of having the articles in English (and I think German) brings this fascinating case to a wider readership.

 

[Beamie]

They said they've had numerous request for english articles, and I'm just so glad they kept me on their list for updates. NRK is the biggest newscompanies in Norway btw

 

[macrauchenia]

Doesn't inhaling smoke from a burning fire cause carbon monoxide buildup in the lungs?

Some posters have suggested that the Isdal woman must've been gassed with a car and a hose from the exhaust pipe, that her killers must've had a vehicle near the picnic site. But I don't think that makes much sense. You can't really get a car up in those hills, can you? Plus investigators would have mentioned tire tracks, right?

 

[Jigoku Dayu]

Doesn't inhaling smoke from a burning fire cause carbon monoxide buildup in the lungs?

Some posters have suggested that the Isdal woman must've been gassed with a car and a hose from the exhaust pipe, that her killers must've had a vehicle near the picnic site. But I don't think that makes much sense. You can't really get a car up in those hills, can you? Plus investigators would have mentioned tire tracks, right?

I think they were talking about the gasoline (aka petrol) used to light her on fire. What she inhaled (which contributed to her death) was definitely the smoke. I think the translations just made it a bit confusing.