Norway Norway - Oslo, WhtFem 20-30, Fake Name, shot in hotel room, Jun'95

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Firstly - I think this picture of Jane Doe gripping the pistol, has been doctored. The original/official/released is the one on the left. The middle is playing with saturation, you can see that it doesn't look quite right. The one on the right is a 'error level analysis', you can distinctly see different shapes with different colour bases/error/compression rates are under and around the gun.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

A feather. By the mini-bar. Probably from a bullet going through a pillow, and a very long way away from the 'test shot' that was supposedly fired at the top of the bed some 10-12ft away.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

More of the feather, plus a second feather by JD's foot. Plus two distinct patches of blood at the bottom end of the bed, well away from where the police said the blood was.

 

[Mireille]

want me to get some more photos from the article?

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

The table where the food is. A paper stand that - when the police first arrive - is full of papers. But in the close-up, mysteriously, is empty.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Another bullet casing (I've lost count of them now). And that feather again from another angle.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

The CSI number '2' tag moved, so did the bullet casing. It doesn't seem very CSI to me.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Here is a blonde male hair, that has come out by the root (the follicle is still in tact). This is to the right side of the bed. CSIs wear protective equipment, they note any errors they make (like catching one of their own hairs in a photo), and as far as I know they don't go around pulling their own hair out at crime scenes.

 

[Mireille]

This is from under the bed

There is a rather bloody one I am not sure I can upload here

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

The left is the shell casing when police/CSI arrived, the right is after they managed to put the '2' sticker in place. Notice how the bullet has been re-aligned/moved.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Undocumented bullet fragments in the wall. In positions they couldn't *possibly* have been in had JD been lying down when she 'shot herself'.

 

[Mireille]

The Msg # appears to say 00039 to me. They have messages her a lot then?

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

I thought this could be sunglasses or a watch on top of the dirty towl on top of the fresh unused dressing gown. If it is a watch it isn't the divers' watch, because that has a dark bezel.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

want me to get some more photos from the article?

I tried to find them all - but if you have any that I haven't done here, definitely send them and I'll have a look.

 

[Mireille]

This here is a feather on the bathroom floor

towel appears bloody.

@ApparentlyInDenial Only one I have not attached here is the one with the blood. I am very sure there is some rules around ....these things?

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

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This here is a feather on the bathroom floor

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towel appears bloody.

@ApparentlyInDenial Only one I have not attached here is the one with the blood. I am very sure there is some rules around ....these things?

Oh yeah I have that one - there wasn't much to the bed area to be honest, only a bunched up dressing gown.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Bathroom towel, three red-pink stains and a reflective fragment (metal, glass or similar).

That's all I have!

 

[Mireille]

So, the cutlery is placed neatly to the left side. I am right handed, and tend to put them on the right.
We know she ate the food.
Do we know what hand she had the watch on?

If she is left handed, it would be very odd for her to shoot herself with her right hand.

 

[annpats]

I think her wrist looks in a very bent and unnatural position. Almost looks like she has a broken wrist or her wrist is made of rubber judging by the bend in it.
There is no way, in my opinion, that is a natural grip on that gun, even holding it backwards. I think it was posed that way by someone else.

 

[Beekarina]

Here is a blonde male hair, that has come out by the root (the follicle is still in tact). This is to the right side of the bed. CSIs wear protective equipment, they note any errors they make (like catching one of their own hairs in a photo), and as far as I know they don't go around pulling their own hair out at crime scenes.

Wow....This is all amazing. And crazy. Well done!

Do you see a smaller blonde hair a bit to the right? A curlier one...Those seem to be true "tow-head" very light blonde.

So much to consider