NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

[moonriverfarm]

Links to MSM video sources, please? I haven't read or seen anything related to that.

For shots to have been fired from any other room, windows would be broken out.
And wow, those expensive rooms sure were badly decorated.

 

[rsd1200]

There have been several posts recently (sorry for not quoting them) wondering about how people can pick on signs that someone might commit an act like this one.

This is an article that appeared in Mother Jones magazine in 2015, and it is an excellent in-depth examination into the current thinking about this topic.

Inside the Race to Stop the Next Mass Shooter: A Growing Number of Cops, Psychologists, and Community Leaders are Working Together to Stem the Bloodshed

Not to be negative and this is a great article, but SP was pretty much this person in the article:

One of the biggest challenges for threat assessment teams is that sometimes the quieter, less outwardly threatening subjects can prove the most dangerous. “When there are individuals who prompt a sense of anxiety or fear but no law or policy has been broken,” Simons says, “that’s the real work.”

From what we've seen, this guy was not "normal" but, not being what society sees, as normal, isn't a crime. We've not seen any record of criminal activity out of him, just odd behavior, until he went on a rampage. A disconnected family couldn't see those signs. He didn't have co-workers, and his gf/wife/roomie was apparently accepting of his odd behavior. Hopefully we'll know more when she gets back to the states on Wed. I kinda find it odd that she's not flown back already. Her children and other family members have be in a state of shock, as I'd be too, if this were my s/o or roommate.

 

[Betty P]

Link please

Scroll down a little ways

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/[email protected]&hubRefSrc=permalink

 

[barcode]

The Mandalay Bay should expect a lawsuit very soon, If people think that the Kennecka Jenkin's case warrants one, this certainly does.

Shooter had cameras OUTSIDE of room to film LE responding according to Sheriff Lombardo as well as inside his room. How could they be that inept not to see him putting up cameras outside of his room with all the surveillance that exists in Las Vegas.

 

[Only4Justice]

I like the lady Mayor of LV.
She says it like it is.


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[rsd1200]

I tend to save texts from family members that I have little contact with. Even save old phones so I don't lose those texts. If I had a brother I rarely talked to or texted, I'd saved them just because it's all I had between us. Maybe I'm just weird though.

Same.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Is this a ‘13’ tattoo on his neck?

-Great observation, it does look like 13! No matter if it is or not.

 

[Dogface]

The Mandalay Bay should expect a lawsuit very soon, If people think that the Kennecka Jenkin's case warrants one, this certainly does.

Shooter had cameras OUTSIDE of room to film LE responding according to Lombardo as well as inside his room. How could they be that inept not to see him putting up cameras outside of his room with all the surveillance that exists in Las Vegas.

It sounds like he hid it on a food cart.


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[al66pine]

Paddock’s Wire Transferred $$$ out of US – but to whoseaccount? Per link below, the receiving a/c was in Philippines. Personally I’m not concluding $ was for GF/SOor her family.



Possibly he had an a/cin his own name or a partnership, corp, LLC, or other name-registration ata Philippine bank or other Philippine financial institution. A US citizen can ^and having such an a/c is lawful – as long as US a/c holder reports any interest,dividends, distributions, capital gains on US Fed, state, and local tax returns(AFAIK). JMO and could be wrong



IMO, his planning & actions suggest that he knew hewould be dead before he would have any opportunity to use $ in an overseas a/c,so I don’t believe $ was wired to an a/che controlled. Just saying it could have been. IOW, not necessarily shady,if he wired $ to his (theorized) a/c outside the US.

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“…Stephen Paddockwired $100,000 to an account in hislive-in girlfriend’s home country of the Philippines in the week before …according to multiple senior law enforcement officials. But while officials have confirmed thatMarilou Danley was in the Philippines on Sunday,… it was not known whether the money was for her, her family, or anotherpurpose.” bbm ^ https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141

 

[sds71]

Slideshow: Portraits of the victims of the Las Vegas shooting

http://www.wfsb.com/story/36504023/slideshow-portraits-of-the-victims-of-the-las-vegas-shooting

 

[Gooddeeds]

Same.

-Same. My text also serve as a scrolling calendar-journal-schedule. My digital reference as needed.

 

[barcode]

It sounds like he hid it on a food cart.


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There were others including one found on a food court.

 

[Tawny]

"Vegas Shooter's Sniper's Nest"

This is how we glorify this kind of thing. We make it sound ****ing cool. Ugh.

 

[Dogface]

There were others including one found on a food court.

From my understanding, which could be wrong of course, he had one on a food cart outside his room, and then others inside his room.

"I anticipate he was looking for anybody coming to take him into custody," Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said today. Sources told ABC News the suspect utilized at least one camera outside the room possibly to monitor approaching police. Lombardo said there was a camera on a service cart in the hallway.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-massacre/story?id=50246458


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[jjenny]

Not to be negative and this is a great article, but SP was pretty much this person in the article:



From what we've seen, this guy was not "normal" but, not being what society sees, as normal, isn't a crime. We've not seen any record of criminal activity out of him, just odd behavior, until he went on a rampage. A disconnected family couldn't see those signs. He didn't have co-workers, and his gf/wife/roomie was apparently accepting of his odd behavior. Hopefully we'll know more when she gets back to the states on Wed. I kinda find it odd that she's not flown back already. Her children and other family members have be in a state of shock, as I'd be too, if this were my s/o or roommate.

What exactly is normal? If being not highly social isn't normal, then a lot of people aren't normal. Vast majority of them won't go on killing rampages.

 

[jjenny]

Were windows broken out on the 4th floor? These windows did not open.

Exactly. People just love conspiracy theories. If windows aren't broken on the 4th floor, then nobody was shooting through those windows.

 

[Gooddeeds]

-My thoughts on the GF and LE. They may have *strategically* said ‘not a POI’. I can’t imagine they would rule ‘her’ out that quickly being as she is in a live-in relationship with him and an employee of the Mandalay. In addition to the cards he used in her name, funds going overseas to her, and the amount of items found at the shared home (s). In my opinion, at this point in time she is clearly a POI regardless if she ultimately is or isn’t.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

For shots to have been fired from any other room, windows would be broken out.
And wow, those expensive rooms sure were badly decorated.

True. If this room was 1700+ SQ feet, covering 3 floors with an additional 1000+ SQ ft how much would a weekend cost?

Was the room complementary?

Sure, he could have paid for it.

It sure doesn't sound like he was
losing $$$$. He gambled $160,000
& Sent $100,000 to the Philippines...

"A source familiar with the investigation told NBC News that Paddock was a frequent player "with the highest status" at Caesars Entertainment properties in Las Vegas."

"According to the company's website, the top level for gamblers is Seven Stars Tier Status, which is by invitation only and subject to alteration or cancellation. Privileges include comped rooms, room upgrades, player credits and access to "signature experiences."


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/l...ooter-gambled-least-160k-recent-weeks-n807191

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[popsicle]

-My thoughts on the GF and LE. They may have *strategically* said ‘not a POI’. I can’t imagine they would rule ‘her’ out that quickly being as she is in a live-in relationship with him and an employee of the Mandalay. In addition to the cards he used in her name, funds going overseas to her, and the amount of items found at the shared home (s). In my opinion, at this point in time she is clearly a POI regardless if she ultimately is or isn’t.

She was not a POI in the actual shooting. They ruled her out early on after confirming her whereabouts. She is a POI in relation to things before the shooting... because of everything they have found in the car and house(s). jmo

 

[Only4Justice]

Also, I am surprised if she was/is out of the country....andon vacation, and the hotel knew she was not at work because she was on vacation, why security did not pick up on the fact her hotel i.d. card was being used to gain entry. One would think either a security employee would be visually checking employee log in and out daily sheets or a computer would be doing it and sending up red flags that an employee was gaining entry when not scheduled to work. IMO there is a weakness in the security system for possibly not checking on non scheduled employees coming into work using their hotel i.d.’s.

I'm not sure I believe that she worked there yet. Can't understand why she hasn't come back yet. We will see.


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