NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

[bluesneakers]

I met a cashier at the Dollar Tree ( love that store ) who was from the Philippines and she was complaining about the taxes for everything here in the US, she said they do not have taxes in the Philippines where she owned a house, so I said yeah look at your roads LOl she agreed, we also talked about how much father a dollar goes in the Philippines so 100 grand over there is like how much here? A lot I would imagine. Wonder if he was setting her up to llive back home, whether or not she knew what he was about to do remains to be seen... She would have been very wealthy with that kind of money.

This isn't true. American dollars probably do go farther in the Philippines but the people there pay taxes.

 

[Tawny]

There are some pieces I'm still confused about.

Paraphrasing here, need full transcript, but for now, the the female witness in the blue shirt celebrating her 21st birthday said via interview with a reporter that she and her companion(s) left and went back to their hotel about 10 or 15 minutes before the shooting because she felt uncomfortable about the woman saying they were all going to die. She said his woman was also harassing another woman in front of her with similar words. As I understand it she, the person being interviewed, notified security because it was making her and others uncomfortable and they escorted the female out. When asked, she gave a description that they were both hispanic, gave their approx heights and basically said they just looked like average people. She also said she wasn't sure if the female was saying this to warn them , or if she was saying it like she was part of it.

So, how did this woman know people were going to die?

Has security or the other woman commented on this, etc?

The quote I was replying to.

A few pages back someone posted that security said there was no incident. I don't know where the "you're all going to die" story came from but it appears to be untrue.

 

[cady]

"Vegas Shooter's Sniper's Nest"

This is how we glorify this kind of thing. We make it sound ****ing cool. Ugh.

I wish they would stop churning out the public grief and horror stories.....I just can't believe that victims are truly comforted by it....and those who are wannabe killers are encouraged by witnessing the pain and wreckage. Makes me sick. I can realize what happened without witnessing it 24/7. JMO

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I would suggest posting a link with a warning. I think giving people a choice whether they want to see it is the best way to go for something like that. (My quote thingie is acting up again....sorry.)

Please don't post the picture... tapatalk shows pictures from each thread in the feed, no way for us tapatalk users to *not* see it. Jon Benet's autopsy photo is bad enough.[emoji45]


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[popsicle]

He found his wife

[FONT=&quot]Hours of searching, waiting and hoping ended early Tuesday when the body of Stacee Etcheber — the wife of a San Francisco police officer who urged her to run while he helped the wounded at the Las Vegas massacre — was identified among the dead.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/...end-to-sfpd-officers-search-for-missing-wife/
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[smeck]

Does ISIS currently have a presence in the Phillipines?

 

[rsd1200]

I don’t think it’s known if she’s a US citizen or not, so I am really curious if she has to come back or not. Any legal experts here that can maybe give some insight? It seems tricky to me since she’s an Australian citizen and I am guessing a Philippines citizen. What is her legal obligation to return if she is a US citizen and if she is not?

We do have an extradition treaty with the Philippines but she's not been called a "fugitive" so I really don't think they can go down there and force her back unless they can mete out charges, or name her as a suspect. It's kind of like the family who moved to AK, in the Rhoden case, they're not named suspects so they can go wherever they please. I could be wrong but would the Philippine government be able to come here to force a citizen back w/o charges?

 

[Gardenista]

The Washington Post is hardly fake news. It is considered a more than reputable journalism source. Believing that a reputable MSM such as the Washington Post is what enables fake news and misinformation to spread, which creates chaos, paranoia, and sadly a misinformed public. Which is not hilarious. It's actually really dangerous. But Okay.

IMO

Many people consider it a reputable news source--many who do further research on their articles know they have an agenda and are in the business of serving up fake news . This, indeed, is sad and dangerous.

I never, ever believe ANYTHING I read without determining the agenda of the organization who published it and doing further research about the topic.

Sure it takes more time, but I think it's well worth it to be fully informed.

 

[mrsu]

Why do you think he stopped shooting? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad he did, but seeing the guns and ammo in the hotel room, he could have fired for a lot longer. CNN said he fired for 9 minutes straight but we know the cops didn’t get there for over an hour. Why do you think he stopped?

 

[LietKynes]

It wasn't perps gf who was supposedly saying people were going to die. Perps gf left US several weeks ago.

RSBM

Yes, I know that. Some sources are saying this was untrue-- about the lady yelling that people were going to die , earlier in the concert.


I'm thinking the perps' gf was ruled out as a possible poi WAY too soon.
If you live with someone -- you kind of get to know the 'real' person ; kwim ??
Hard to believe she was completely clueless. Not saying it's impossible.
:moo:

 

[Ambitioned]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/battle-recapture-marawi-philippines-isis-warning-asia-n790626

 

[bluesneakers]

Many people consider it a reputable news source--many who do further research on their articles know they have an agenda and are in the business of serving up fake news . This, indeed, is sad and dangerous.

I never, ever believe ANYTHING I read without determining the agenda of the organization who published it and doing further research about the topic.

Sure it takes more time, but I think it's well worth it to be fully informed.

It's trustworthy and is considered MSM here and is fine to use as a source. No extra links needed if your source is WaPo or NYT.

 

[Ambitioned]

Does ISIS currently have a presence in the Phillipines?

I had a CNN link but it converted into a graphic video so I removed it.

 

[DatelineFan]

There are some pieces I'm still confused about.

Paraphrasing here, need full transcript, but for now, the the female witness in the blue shirt celebrating her 21st birthday said via interview with a reporter that she and her companion(s) left and went back to their hotel about 10 or 15 minutes before the shooting because she felt uncomfortable about the woman saying they were all going to die. She said his woman was also harassing another woman in front of her with similar words. As I understand it she, the person being interviewed, notified security because it was making her and others uncomfortable and they escorted the female out. When asked, she gave a description that they were both hispanic, gave their approx heights and basically said they just looked like average people. She also said she wasn't sure if the female was saying this to warn them , or if she was saying it like she was part of it.

So, how did this woman know people were going to die?

Has security or the other woman commented on this, etc?

The quote I was replying to.

I don't think she knew. I think there are people who are paranoid, on drugs, etc., who do things like that. I live in SF, and from time to time, someone will run down the street during an event yelling that everyone is going to die. I think it's just a creepy coincidence.

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[Pamela_Brewer]

Why do you think he stopped shooting? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad he did, but seeing the guns and ammo in the hotel room, he could have fired for a lot longer. CNN said he fired for 9 minutes straight but we know the cops didn’t get there for over an hour. Why do you think he stopped?

Goid question . Wasn't the hotel security guard the first to show up ?
I may be wrong. I thought I read he had been deceased for a little time before SWAT showed up.
MOO

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[enelram]

Why do you think he stopped shooting? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad he did, but seeing the guns and ammo in the hotel room, he could have fired for a lot longer. CNN said he fired for 9 minutes straight but we know the cops didn’t get there for over an hour. Why do you think he stopped?

not sure but is it possible the hotel security guards came to his door and that's when he shot the guard in leg through door.

 

[divinedragon]

People could have seen reflections in the windows of those white hot brass coming down from above.
No one has mentioned tracer bullets being used...but they too would illuminate the floors below.

And a question...
Has anyone seen anything in MSM about a machine shop being found yet on any of his properties to modify to fully automatic?

I haven’t heard anything about a machine shop. I think it is currently believed that bump stocks were used to achieve near automatic fire rates.


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[bluesneakers]

I don't think she knew. I think there are people who are paranoid, on drugs, etc., who do things like that. I live in SF, and from time to time, someone will run down the street during an event yelling that everyone is going to die. I think it's just a creepy coincidence.

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I was on the streetcar a few nights ago and when the part that connects to the wire sparked someone on the car shouted "We're all gonna die!"

 

[DatelineFan]

He found his wife

[FONT=&quot]Hours of searching, waiting and hoping ended early Tuesday when the body of Stacee Etcheber — the wife of a San Francisco police officer who urged her to run while he helped the wounded at the Las Vegas massacre — was identified among the dead.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/...end-to-sfpd-officers-search-for-missing-wife/
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Absolutely heartbreaking.

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[Betty P]

It wasn't perps gf who was supposedly saying people were going to die. Perps gf left US several weeks ago.

According to news media/latest PC, she left the US three days before he checked into the hotel.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...vegas-shooting-trump-puerto-rico-live-updates

The latest from Las Vegas sheriff Joe Lombardo’s afternoon press conference on Sunday’s mass shooting, which killed 59 people and injured more than 500 others.

Marilou Danley, the suspect’s girlfriend, is a “person of interest” who is cooperating with police but outside the country. Danley went abroad on 25 September, before the gunman, Stephen Paddock, booked into the Mandalay Bay on the 28th. She is in the Philippines, Lombardo said.

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The sheriff says police are looking at video on more than 67 body cameras, and even more footage from surveillance cameras, phones and other sources.

He shies away from other details of the investigation. Going through all the video will take an enormous amount of time, he says, in part because of chain-of-custody issues and the sheer hours of footage.