NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #4

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  • #401
I do not understand the mental illness part. We all do stuff we are not supposed to do. I kmow this to be a fact and I do not need a link cuz no one is perfect.

Some of us do more bad stuff than others. Are we all mentally ill because I think almost all people have things that have happened in their lives.

I cannot believe that SP did not know what he was doing was wrong, otherwise,,he would have bragged about his fabulous plan to others.Rather, he kept it secret and taped his fabulous math calculations so,LE and the world would see how brilliant he was.

He was totally self absorbed and he grew more and more in love with himself.

Some people kill their children because they believe they are saving from the big,bad world.

I,think,SP was showing the world how superior he was. Is that mentally ill?

I think,he had the choice of kmowing right from wrong and did not care. It is all about him
 
  • #402
There were many times , when folks that I had rapport with, who expressed great remorse for wanting to kill me last week because I was after them

its not an all or nothing proposition - it ebbs it flows it worse some days they are not stupid they have defective brains and brains control all

it like the brain is an ever changing entity

It would be easier to understand if it was static it is not moo

He planned this for months
 
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I don't necessarily have a qualm with the idea of him having one. However, I think it's a total crap-shoot to try and pinpoint anything mentally about this guy because we don't know anything mentally about this guy. Like I said in another post, you could open the DSM to a random page, point to a condition, and you could shoehorn it into this situation because we know so little. Divining a psychological condition from a few media sources with a lot of contradictory information isn't something I find to be likely.

Now, if we were looking at a bunch of sworn statements from people that knew him well, and had his internet posts, and had a pretty solid understanding of how this guy acted that wasn't likely influenced by media or people protecting him, or people trying to get their 15 minutes of fame... I think there would be some pretty valuable discussion there with regards to his mental state. At this point, I personally feel that there are just far too many holes to make any sort of real assessment. :moo:

And it is fascinating to me we have so much

we have a genetic predisposition

we have children that are actually having to fend for themselves on a daily basis

we have family system big lies

we have him having to be a parent when he was a child

we have a very lost person during the times when most are finding there way

he was lost

we have addiction -- addiction is so colored by old visions of what is --

there all the same food alcohol RX sex order its all the same

only way anxiety and stress can be relieved is by doing it

his childhood was powerless

no control over anything makes alot of sense that for the rest of his life he would not be powerless again

money is power

no way to get his needs met as a child mom was worried about bread

he learned the only way to get his needs met was to manipulate lie decieve

that is how he learned the game

of course he is not gonna forge meaningful relationships-- from the onset who is supposed to be reliable -- the momma animal that is how one learns the world can be safe place

from a big person that lets you know that

For the rest of his life - if true- he stayed in parent mode with the brother == that is what he learned he had to do

imo there is much about the other two

resentment == he was a child and placed in a place that developmentally he was not designed to deal with == parent as a kid

it was his job

he did it the best that he could I think that is why money became so meaningful to him

he could not protect his younger siblings from all that was going on but he tried the best he could

he got gratefulness from Eric --for whatever went on with the other two ( I have notions!) in adulthood he did not feel he got his dues for what he did back then

he was forced into the parent role as a child moo

that is heavy stuff for what is in reality a kid

they all learned lying and deception -- there mother lied to them for decades about thier father

that is betrayal

messes with trust issues

a lot of this is not just guesses -- look at the family system

for all of us that is the beginning

just fact how could it be different

ducks learn to imprint same thing

we ARE animals after all

how do we learn the world from the big people around us when we are little people

just like puppies - fascinating we all think our babies are kissing us

actually it is the first (survival) thing they learn to survive - sucking on the nipple -- brings much satisfaction

our babies are loving us it is however far more instinct stuff

without it they all would have died

think about it

hold on

I am feeling a love attack coming on for my lady love bug !!

just some ramblings !!
 
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If he is one of those conspiracy theorists maybe he wanted to create his own hoax to add fuel to the fire.
Interesting that his actions have brought out more nuts of his kind who are focused on conspiracy theories surrounding an event he created.

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  • #407
Interesting that his actions have brought out more nuts of his kind who are focused on conspiracy theories surrounding an event he created.

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Oh, but they're everywhere.
 
  • #408
He planned this for months

Interesting my human !

I would go for ruminate for years about how to deal with his rage at the world

actually if ya think about for someone who can sit down a do little bullet trajectories
bringing up a bunch of guns and half way setting up some cameras is not imo planning brain surgery

BUT to go here one would have to go with the notion that the guns were not all over the place for this -- but were a sale to desperately get some money that was running out

until that possibility becomes one it stays stuck in all this planning

this is big bad LV-- this is big money this hustlers this sex this is playing games the city ain't a boy scouts convention!!

Serious serious stuff IMO something went very wrong --- as it relates to money
power control

moo
 
  • #409
My friend’s daughter and three others girls were there but not at the concert, They were unable to get tickets.

The girls split up . Two tried to get tickets and the other two were one block away when people started screaming and running.They started running but did not know what was going on or where they should run to,.

I will skip the rest of the story and start at being home in MN.

My friend’s daughter could not get out of bed to go to work. My daughter went to see the other girl on Weds and when she opened the door, she started crying.

These girls are 40 and 44.I have known them before they were born. I guess they aren’t that young.

Anyway, I don’t they saw any carnage. They nevertheless are suffering from PTSD.

I can’t imagine what Breane is going through because she had to have seen a lot
Secondary Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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Watch that addictive behavior my dear !!!



binge is this generation code word for addiction

that is funny !!!

I do crack myself up at times with the thoughts that fly thro my little head !!

-Can you two direct me to a REAL online video of the Police storming his door and once inside the door please. I’m not interested in anything else at the moment. I think i’ve seen most all else but storming the door, the hallway and the interior room. Thank you!
 
  • #412
I noticed the same thing. A lot of stories about him have been contradictory. Who knows what is actually accurate?
Perhaps all of these people are correct, and he presented himself as a completely different individual to various people.

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  • #413
Interesting that his actions have brought out more nuts of his kind who are focused on conspiracy theories surrounding an event he created.

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Yeah. Bigtime.
I am assuming they autopsied his body. His blood toxicology might throw up something..
There is a possibility that no further evidence will be discovered.
There is a possibility that e was not mentally ill.
There is a possibility that he just did it because he could.
His reported recent weight loss, increasing susceptibility to allergic reactions may be indicators of a broken down physical constitution, a terminal or incurable illness..

Its a full week now and not a trace of a reason. A reason wont undo it, but it would help towards catharsis for the victims' families..

Though I believe healing is possible, its a much longer and more dismal journey without understanding or knowledge of a motive.
A precipice of despair and terror.

There is a possibility he had another communications system which he destroyed so thoroughly it will never be found.
The charger that did not fit his phone is possibly a clue to that, or it could belong to any of his female companions..
I'm not sure I understand his need to write the calculations when he was neither going to be using tracers and he had the ability to discern the productivity of any machine to within 10% by scanning its logs.. (source NYT article yesterday or day before)
 
  • #414
Perhaps all of these people are correct, and he presented himself as a completely different individual to various people.

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Interesting. My adopted neice has borderline personality disorder although she seems to be doing really good now. She is in her late 30’s now. Who kmows though.

Anyway, she was a chamelon and would be whatever whomever she was with. She also used to be a bottomless pit and nothing would ever make her happy.

But she does seem to be different now . Anyway, I am merely expressing my experience. So he could be lots of different things.
 
  • #415
Haha!! I <3 you, CARIIS. Thanks for adding a little levity.

Watch that addictive behavior my dear !!!



binge is this generation code word for addiction

that is funny !!!

I do crack myself up at times with the thoughts that fly thro my little head !!
 
  • #416
The hairdresser also said that he told her two months ago that he had bought MD a ticket to the Philippines. She states that MD was with him. Yet MD says she only found out a few weeks before she went on her trip. Someone's not telling the truth IMO.
The hairdresser saw him for three haircuts over the last three years and said he smelled like alcohol each time and that he mentioned that he had been gambling all night.
Mr. Wynn says the only unusual thing about him was that he never drank.
I don't know who to belive with all of the differant stories. What I find hard to believe is that he was an alcoholic that got drunk all the time while gambling and yet was using his math skills to figure out the algorithm of the machine.

Someone posted a story here that said the salon checked their records and he'd never been there
 
  • #417
Someone posted a story here that said the salon checked their records and he'd never been there

Do you have a link, or do you know where the story was published?
 
  • #418
Perhaps all of these people are correct, and he presented himself as a completely different individual to various people.

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Or perhaps some of these people aren't providing accurate information.
 
  • #419
Do you have a link, or do you know where the story was published?

I haven't seen anything like this here, so I don't think it was posted here.
 
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